Re: [Goanet] Who are you to object?
Goans have sold their soul to the devil: greed, communalism, corruption, and casteism. Sad. George From: Joao Barros-Pereira On this Liberation Day, Goans and people who have lived long enough in Goa and think of themselves as Goans, need to do some serious introspection and come to terms with who they are and their worth in terms of votes. During election time they are king for a day, 24-hours of political power. 24-hours and no more! Promises made prior to the elections are not to be taken seriously, as it was meant to be entertainment - fun and games - as the intention was only to persuade the voter to vote for a particular party. Remember the 15 lakhs, and other promises at the state level? Maybe 15 lakhs was deposited in your bank account. I don't know. All I know is I didn't get anything - not even one rupee. After the election results, the elected MLAs will do what they want and merrily contradict what was promised the voters. No problem. It is now time for political frog jumping and amending the rules and regulations so the elected politicians can tell the voter what they are doing is legal. 100% legal. Now, this is our political culture. What to do?
[Goanet] Who are you to object?
On this Liberation Day, Goans and people who have lived long enough in Goa and think of themselves as Goans, need to do some serious introspection and come to terms with who they are and their worth in terms of votes. During election time they are king for a day, 24-hours of political power. 24-hours and no more! Promises made prior to the elections are not to be taken seriously, as it was meant to be entertainment - fun and games - as the intention was only to persuade the voter to vote for a particular party. Remember the 15 lakhs, and other promises at the state level? Maybe 15 lakhs was deposited in your bank account. I don't know. All I know is I didn't get anything - not even one rupee. After the election results, the elected MLAs will do what they want and merrily contradict what was promised the voters. No problem. It is now time for political frog jumping and amending the rules and regulations so the elected politicians can tell the voter what they are doing is legal. 100% legal. Now, this is our political culture. What to do? No 73rd and 74th amendments, only laws which will allow the government to bypass the panchayats and gram sabhas and make them them irrelevant. The politician at this stage is now king and ready to celebrate his good fortune. Goodbye, Goan voter! See you later. While most people have a crooked bone - big or small - in their bodies, politicians are 99% crooked. Maybe we should forgive them for they don't know what they do, some Christians say. But, make no mistake - they do - for them the honest man or woman is a fool. The politician cannot understand anything beyond lies and power. If they do not possess power they feel like a nobody. Nothing less than power over the lives of people is heaven on earth. Sickening? Yes, they are sick, very sick and in urgent need of medical treatment. Voter, don't complain! We are nobodies who need to know our place even though governments have to take an electoral test every 4 years in a democracy. They think they are immortal. And then, there is always scope for daylight robbery, their mission in life - and so it is no better than talking to the walls! Who will listen or feel any remorse of conscience? That would be asking for the impossible. Grow up, voter. Either we vote for honest people or shut up and accept what our government wants to do even if it means we are ants under their heavy power boots. There are some kamikaze Goans who will disagree with what I have said. George Bernard Shaw has rightly observed how all progress is because of people who are unreasonable. They, and not the politicians, are in love with Goa. On this Liberation Day it is time to take an audit of who is the boss. On one point the verdict is in: the voter isn't!
[Goanet] Who are you, really? The puzzle of personality
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Re: [Goanet] Who are you? (or, Tum konnalo?)... talk on genealogy and your identity at XCHR, June 9
To konna'lo? By Lucio Rodrigues Literally, the phrase means, Which family does he belong To? or Who are his parents? It is apparently a simple Interrogative, an expression of normal, healthy curiosity, Expressing the concern that one human being has for another. + + + FN, a well reasoned piece by Lucio Rodriques; although apparently, what was once to a large extent benign, turned malignant. I believe the benignity was scorned as lives of the Goans at various strata changed, essentially one station in life. The saying goes: Tempa pormonnem mateak kurponnem. According to the season the head gets adorned (the head dress, fulam, etc.). The inflection assigned to words, phrases, questions say a lot too. But then one has to have the ability/develop the ability/grow (or be taught) with the ability to understand meaning from an utterance. This portion from LRs text is very significant. I hope he writes a book, which surely would be worthy of a graphic novel. He does not belong. The establishment is secure. Of course, in spite of the heroic efforts of such Donas, there have been cracks in the establishment in recent years. There is greater social mobility than ever before. But social attitudes practised over the centuries become part of the subconscious mind and resist change. The attitude crystallise in the phrase, To konna'lo? formed the warp and woof of Goan society. It played a furtive role in the corridors of the seminary, in the vestry of the church, and in the chapter of the cathedral. It received a sanction in Goan folklore, was codified in proverbs and immortalised in the following legend. People should look at Eliot's The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock. + + + Venantius On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoron...@gmail.com wrote: Venantius J Pinto venantius.pinto at gmail.com Thu Jun 5 21:46:49 PDT 2014 Tum konnalo? does not translate as who are you, and neither even jokingly can it be seen to allude to Who do you think you are?! The latter does happen but it has to be regarded in context... You're right, Venantius. Was just wondering myself whether anyone would remember this... probably from sometime afte 2010... To konna'lo? By Lucio Rodrigues Konkani has its own unique expressions -- words, Phrases, idioms, proverbs, and other folksy Linguistic miracles which defy translation into any Other language. To konna'lo? Is one such, with its Several inflexions according to gender and number: Tem konnalem, ti konna'li, te konna'le, tea Konna'leo, Tim konna'lim. Literally, the phrase means, Which family does he belong To? or Who are his parents? It is apparently a simple Interrogative, an expression of normal, healthy curiosity, Expressing the concern that one human being has for another. But to those who know their Konkani and belong to the social Matrix of Goa, the phrase is far from simple and innocuous. True, it does express curiosity, but the curiosity is not the Elementary curiosity of a mere individual. It is the highly Sophisticated curiosity of the community, or organised Society. The phrase is a masterpiece of verbal economy and Semantic subtlety. It implies a social and moral attitude That is the result of a whole way of life rooted in the soil Of Goa. Though the phrase is known to all, it is never used Indiscriminately. It is not to be bandied about in the street Or in the market-place. You cannot just speak it out glibly, Or shout it out brazenly. Even in the drawing-room or the Dance-hall, you cannot mouth it tactlessly. To do so would be The height of impertinence, and you would be summarily Condemned as a very ill-mannered yokel. In fact, the use of the phrase calls for the proper occasion And situation, the proper place and time, and above all, the Most practised gesture and inflexion of voice. Its utterance Is part of a code. Goan society is based on a traditional hierarchy which has Its origins in ancient Hindu India. It is a hierarchy of many Tiers, arranged in a descending scale, each tier made up of a Homogeneous group, with its own status, its own privileges And responsibilities, its own loyalties, and its own code Of honour, which have to be zealously guarded. An individual's place in this hierarchy is Determined solely by the accident of birth. The Gods decide it all for you: you are born into a Family which belongs to one of the social tiers, And there you belong, there you stay. Like the Fixed stars in the heavens, you have your fixed Station in the social firmament, and your set Orbit. In the good old days,
Re: [Goanet] Who are you? (or, Tum konnalo?)... talk on genealogy and your identity at XCHR, June 9
Venantius J Pinto venantius.pinto at gmail.com Thu Jun 5 21:46:49 PDT 2014 Tum konnalo? does not translate as who are you, and neither even jokingly can it be seen to allude to Who do you think you are?! The latter does happen but it has to be regarded in context... You're right, Venantius. Was just wondering myself whether anyone would remember this... probably from sometime afte 2010... To konna'lo? By Lucio Rodrigues Konkani has its own unique expressions -- words, Phrases, idioms, proverbs, and other folksy Linguistic miracles which defy translation into any Other language. To konna'lo? Is one such, with its Several inflexions according to gender and number: Tem konnalem, ti konna'li, te konna'le, tea Konna'leo, Tim konna'lim. Literally, the phrase means, Which family does he belong To? or Who are his parents? It is apparently a simple Interrogative, an expression of normal, healthy curiosity, Expressing the concern that one human being has for another. But to those who know their Konkani and belong to the social Matrix of Goa, the phrase is far from simple and innocuous. True, it does express curiosity, but the curiosity is not the Elementary curiosity of a mere individual. It is the highly Sophisticated curiosity of the community, or organised Society. The phrase is a masterpiece of verbal economy and Semantic subtlety. It implies a social and moral attitude That is the result of a whole way of life rooted in the soil Of Goa. Though the phrase is known to all, it is never used Indiscriminately. It is not to be bandied about in the street Or in the market-place. You cannot just speak it out glibly, Or shout it out brazenly. Even in the drawing-room or the Dance-hall, you cannot mouth it tactlessly. To do so would be The height of impertinence, and you would be summarily Condemned as a very ill-mannered yokel. In fact, the use of the phrase calls for the proper occasion And situation, the proper place and time, and above all, the Most practised gesture and inflexion of voice. Its utterance Is part of a code. Goan society is based on a traditional hierarchy which has Its origins in ancient Hindu India. It is a hierarchy of many Tiers, arranged in a descending scale, each tier made up of a Homogeneous group, with its own status, its own privileges And responsibilities, its own loyalties, and its own code Of honour, which have to be zealously guarded. An individual's place in this hierarchy is Determined solely by the accident of birth. The Gods decide it all for you: you are born into a Family which belongs to one of the social tiers, And there you belong, there you stay. Like the Fixed stars in the heavens, you have your fixed Station in the social firmament, and your set Orbit. In the good old days, before emigration and the spread of Education began to disturb the feudal stability of life in Goa, everyone knew practically everyone else. Your identity Was known, not only who you were but also where you belonged. This is generally true in the villages even today. Such was The thoroughness with which the hierarchic social system was Perpetuated that a large number of Hindu surnames could be Interpreted as marks of identification which placed you Definitely in one of the social tiers. However, an accident of history took place to disturb the old Social order. Foreign conquest and conversion in the Sixteenth century introduced new ideas of a free and equal Society in Goa. The logic of the principle that all men are Equal was a challenge to the traditional hierarchic practice, And the situation was fraught with perils. But the challenge had to be faced. Habits die hard; Position and privilege cannot be easily Surrendered; group loyalties cultivated over the Centuries cannot be given up. The new ideas of Social mobility were a threat to the homogeneity of The group. The purity of the social group had to be Maintained, the well-being of the members assured. This could be done by sedulously preventing the Infiltration of intruders and upstarts, of outsiders. Under the new dispensation this was not as easy as before. Names, for example, were arbitrarily changed, and one clue to The identity of an individual came to be lost. Fernandes or Colaco offered no clue to the status of an individual Christened with the new foreign name, as Sardesai or Borkar offered. A Colaco could be anyone from the Highest-born to the lowest-born. In this state of anonymity and impending social confusion a Technique had to be devised to discover the identity of the Individual, so that the privileges enjoyed exclusively by the High-born could be safeguarded. In the field of employment, for instance, unwanted
Re: [Goanet] Who are you? (or, Tum konnalo?)... talk on genealogy and your identity at XCHR, June 9
Tum konnalo? does not translate as who are you, and neither even jokingly can it be seen to allude to Who do you think you are?! The latter does happen but it has to be regarded in context. Who are you deserves and expects a simple response. I am visiting from Bombay. My name is Venantius, and I am here on holidays. Then other questions may follow. Who are you in the English sense could have a few connotations, including making a dash to test DNA, genomes and other markers! Not so simple with Tum konnalo. When the question Tum konnalo is placed, the response has to be attached to place, lineage (up to the way one sees oneself, also how one wishes to be seen, as also present oneself): :: Hanv Fugueiredalo. :: Dumticaragher. Other questions may follow if more than one in that village. :: Otilalo. [rarely used now] (I am Otilia's. To mean: My mother is Otilia. Igorche kodden ghor assa tya ghoratlo. Often immediately upon responding as above, other pointed Qs MAY have followed. Such as, Hanh tujo Pai ghadddeo/engina choloita nhum? (I was asked/told that about 30 years ago). A kind of waylaying which told me a lot about the other side. Venantius J Pinto On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoron...@gmail.com wrote: A presentation-cum discussion at the Xavier Centre of Historical Research (Alto Porvorim) on June 9, 2014 at 5.30 pm by Werner Egipsy Souza on Genealogy: Creating Your Local Identity. About the speaker: Werner has been involved in the design and delivery of various online and offline systems within industry verticals such as Media, Retail, Automotives, Mobile Technology, Automation and Renewable Energies. These have involved collaborations with various companies and individuals ranging up to 10 vendors and teams of 150. He runs his own firm Brahma Kamal, where he provides services and products in the fields of social media, online presence and computer maintenance. Besides his dealing with computers and technology, he has worked with local NGOs in the fields of education, suicide prevention, music and dance promotion and helped in organising events related to music, bikes, yoga, etc. He has been extensively quoted in publications on Twitter Power 2.0, local newspapers as well as online publications. Synopsis of the talk: In Goa, one's identity is defined by one's kin network more than by individual achievement, and the question Who are you? is generally answered by a description of geography and family background. Despite being one of the oldest sciences in history, genealogy is still badly misunderstood, especially with regard to implications. Its relevance goes beyond carving a place for one's family in the larger historical picture or trying to preserve the past for future generations, but implies creating a medical history plan that would help prevent certain fatal and debilitating illnesses, resolving parentage and heritage issues with respect to geography, and defining genealogies of philosophies, especially pre-colonisation and post-colonisation. The popularity of genealogy can be gauged by genealogy shows such as Who do you think you are? a British show which has attracted more than 6 million viewers and genealogy websites such as Ancestry.com, worth $1.6 billion (Rs.9, 426 Crores). If the question Who are you? is important to you then do not miss this presentation that will explore the online resources available for tracing one’s family history. Venue: B B Borkar Road, Alto Porvorim, Goa -- 403521 /+91-832-2417772, 2414971 i...@xchr.in/ www.facebook.com/xchr.goa Open to all, but please RSVP and drop a line if you plan to attend. -- + Venantius J Pinto
Re: [Goanet] Who are you? (or, Tum konnalo?)... talk on genealogy and your identity at XCHR, June 9
On 6 June 2014 10:16, Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com wrote: :: Otilalo. [rarely used now] (I am Otilia's. To mean: My mother is Otilia. Igorche kodden ghor assa tya ghoratlo. Often immediately upon responding as above, other pointed Qs MAY have followed. Such as, Hanh tujo Pai ghadddeo/engina choloita nhum? (I was asked/told that about 30 years ago). Talking about which, I recall how I reached your home igorche kodden way back in early 2008! FN -- FN Phone +91-832-2409490 Mobile +91-9822122436 http://goa1556.in
Re: [Goanet] Who are you? (or, Tum konnalo?)... talk on genealogy and your identity at XCHR, June 9
This was written a few years ago... R O O T S : U N U S U A L S T O R I E S F R O M G O A After coping with generations of wander-lust, that often snapped ties with their roots, Goans from far and near return with renewed interest to trace back their origins By Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com Tom Fernandes is blond with typically Germanic light eyes. If his accent and looks suggest he belongs to central Europe, his surname sounds possibly Goan. It is. Infact, he's just one of the many Goans scattered in distant lands due to one of history's most under-studied diaspora that saw tens of thousands from this small region get scattered far and wide across the globe. Today, many like Tom, in his early twenties, are returning back to their home state... all in a quest to better understand their identity, find their roots, and possibly re-trace their ancestry. Speedy communications over the Internet and closer international links is making all this possible in today's global village. In the bargain, many are digging up unusual stories about past generations. Strange though it may seem, Goa could be one of the best places in this part of the globe to belong to if you're curious about your roots. Fairly well-kept colonial records, the still-existing village 'gaunkari' system and the rural networks of 'vangods' (extended clans) might make it easy for you too to search for your roots. How do you go about this? Let's ask those who did it recently... Benild (Ben) J. Pires of Victoria, British Columbia in Canada says: I have been intrigued about discovering my roots since the mid-1970s. My dad, Dr. Edward A. Pires, now 90, had then retired and began work on the family tree. He has always had an interest in keeping in contact, through his annual Christmas newsletter, with all our relatives he knew. Pires explains that since his father did not know how to type, he himself took on the task of putting together the tree from the information he provided. This was in the era before computers and tree-maker programs. (Today, computer software allows anyone to create a family tree with much ease.) But his tree did not go high enough. I wanted to find out when the 'Pires' name began -- I presume there was a Hindu name before a Hindu family was converted to Catholicism by the Portuguese in Goa and received the Portuguese name of 'Pires', as Ben J Pires puts it. From distant Canada, he wrote to relatives in Goa to find out if there was someone interested in doing some genealogy research. I was willing to have it done for a fee, but there were no takers, he rues. In 1992, Pires himself took my parents to Goa -- they figured it was probably their last opportunity to visit their village, Nagoa, in Bardez. He took the opportunity to spend three days at the archives in Panjim. Recall now, he says: I was truly amazed about the amount of progress I made in such a brief time. And I was surprised that the archives staff allowed me to handle documents as far back as the late 1700s... pages which were practically crumbling in my hands. I did need the help of a relative who could read Portuguese to help me translate documents -- baptism certificates -- that were useful to me. Perhaps I had some measure of success because my dad's father and grandfather were from Panjim. Of course, Pires had certain facts to fall back on -- his grandfather's details dating back to the 1880s, his grandmum's name, the fact that they moved to Nagoa and built a home, which was recently donated to nuns working there. Two of his sisters are nuns in the order. He also knew his great-grandfather's name and whom he had married. He made some quick discoveries at the Archives, after estimating that each generation is about 20 to 30 years apart. Finally, he got down to Antonio Pires -- his great, great, great, great grandfather, born in 1770. But after that it was tough. Says Pires: I reached a blank after Antonio Pires, because he must have moved from somewhere else, because the archives did not have any birth records from the Panjim area before that. Today, he is infact searching for clues on how to go further. Others are working on this too. Mumbai-based Valentine D'Souza, originally from Donvaddo in Saligao, has been the Consulting Editor of the 'Express Computer' magazine in the past. He also published 'Living Computer' and was at the helm of the 'Times Computing' of the Times of India group. Says he: I've barely started getting into this research and so far have only been able to cover about three and a half generations (mostly current). I just did some initial groundwork in Goa and hope to come back again soon and delve a little deeper by going to the archives department in Panjim, based on advice received. He suspects that its going to be quite a difficult task as his paternal grandfather was born in Karachi and information on his side of the family is sketchy. I just don't know where to start,
Re: [Goanet] Who are you? (or, Tum konnalo?)... talk on genealogy and your identity at XCHR, June 9
Such searches help people see as also align their ancestry alongside/with the shaping of identity. I am happy to read texts when I come across them. We all have our worlds and what motivates us. Thank you FN. vjp On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: This was written a few years ago... R O O T S : U N U S U A L S T O R I E S F R O M G O A After coping with generations of wander-lust, that often snapped ties with their roots, Goans from far and near return with renewed interest to trace back their origins By Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com Tom Fernandes is blond with typically Germanic light eyes. If his accent and looks suggest he belongs to central Europe, his surname sounds possibly Goan. It is. Infact, he's just one of the many Goans scattered in distant lands due to one of history's most under-studied diaspora that saw tens of thousands from this small region get scattered far and wide across the globe. Today, many like Tom, in his early twenties, are returning back to their home state... all in a quest to better understand their identity, find their roots, and possibly re-trace their ancestry. Speedy communications over the Internet and closer international links is making all this possible in today's global village. In the bargain, many are digging up unusual stories about past generations. Strange though it may seem, Goa could be one of the best places in this part of the globe to belong to if you're curious about your roots. Fairly well-kept colonial records, the still-existing village 'gaunkari' system and the rural networks of 'vangods' (extended clans) might make it easy for you too to search for your roots. How do you go about this? Let's ask those who did it recently... Benild (Ben) J. Pires of Victoria, British Columbia in Canada says: I have been intrigued about discovering my roots since the mid-1970s. My dad, Dr. Edward A. Pires, now 90, had then retired and began work on the family tree. He has always had an interest in keeping in contact, through his annual Christmas newsletter, with all our relatives he knew. Pires explains that since his father did not know how to type, he himself took on the task of putting together the tree from the information he provided. This was in the era before computers and tree-maker programs. (Today, computer software allows anyone to create a family tree with much ease.) But his tree did not go high enough. I wanted to find out when the 'Pires' name began -- I presume there was a Hindu name before a Hindu family was converted to Catholicism by the Portuguese in Goa and received the Portuguese name of 'Pires', as Ben J Pires puts it. From distant Canada, he wrote to relatives in Goa to find out if there was someone interested in doing some genealogy research. I was willing to have it done for a fee, but there were no takers, he rues. In 1992, Pires himself took my parents to Goa -- they figured it was probably their last opportunity to visit their village, Nagoa, in Bardez. He took the opportunity to spend three days at the archives in Panjim. Recall now, he says: I was truly amazed about the amount of progress I made in such a brief time. And I was surprised that the archives staff allowed me to handle documents as far back as the late 1700s... pages which were practically crumbling in my hands. I did need the help of a relative who could read Portuguese to help me translate documents -- baptism certificates -- that were useful to me. Perhaps I had some measure of success because my dad's father and grandfather were from Panjim. Of course, Pires had certain facts to fall back on -- his grandfather's details dating back to the 1880s, his grandmum's name, the fact that they moved to Nagoa and built a home, which was recently donated to nuns working there. Two of his sisters are nuns in the order. He also knew his great-grandfather's name and whom he had married. He made some quick discoveries at the Archives, after estimating that each generation is about 20 to 30 years apart. Finally, he got down to Antonio Pires -- his great, great, great, great grandfather, born in 1770. But after that it was tough. Says Pires: I reached a blank after Antonio Pires, because he must have moved from somewhere else, because the archives did not have any birth records from the Panjim area before that. Today, he is infact searching for clues on how to go further. Others are working on this too. Mumbai-based Valentine D'Souza, originally from Donvaddo in Saligao, has been the Consulting Editor of the 'Express Computer' magazine in the past. He also published 'Living Computer' and was at the helm of the 'Times Computing' of the Times of India group. Says he: I've barely started getting into this research and so far have only been able to
[Goanet] Who are you? (or, Tum konnalo?)... talk on genealogy and your identity at XCHR, June 9
A presentation-cum discussion at the Xavier Centre of Historical Research (Alto Porvorim) on June 9, 2014 at 5.30 pm by Werner Egipsy Souza on Genealogy: Creating Your Local Identity. About the speaker: Werner has been involved in the design and delivery of various online and offline systems within industry verticals such as Media, Retail, Automotives, Mobile Technology, Automation and Renewable Energies. These have involved collaborations with various companies and individuals ranging up to 10 vendors and teams of 150. He runs his own firm Brahma Kamal, where he provides services and products in the fields of social media, online presence and computer maintenance. Besides his dealing with computers and technology, he has worked with local NGOs in the fields of education, suicide prevention, music and dance promotion and helped in organising events related to music, bikes, yoga, etc. He has been extensively quoted in publications on Twitter Power 2.0, local newspapers as well as online publications. Synopsis of the talk: In Goa, one's identity is defined by one's kin network more than by individual achievement, and the question Who are you? is generally answered by a description of geography and family background. Despite being one of the oldest sciences in history, genealogy is still badly misunderstood, especially with regard to implications. Its relevance goes beyond carving a place for one's family in the larger historical picture or trying to preserve the past for future generations, but implies creating a medical history plan that would help prevent certain fatal and debilitating illnesses, resolving parentage and heritage issues with respect to geography, and defining genealogies of philosophies, especially pre-colonisation and post-colonisation. The popularity of genealogy can be gauged by genealogy shows such as Who do you think you are? a British show which has attracted more than 6 million viewers and genealogy websites such as Ancestry.com, worth $1.6 billion (Rs.9, 426 Crores). If the question Who are you? is important to you then do not miss this presentation that will explore the online resources available for tracing one’s family history. Venue: B B Borkar Road, Alto Porvorim, Goa -- 403521 /+91-832-2417772, 2414971 i...@xchr.in/ www.facebook.com/xchr.goa Open to all, but please RSVP and drop a line if you plan to attend.
[Goanet] Who are you ?
Asks Ana Maria Fernandes (June 14 ) . Methinks the question should rather be ''What kind of Christian are you ? '' Jesus Christ preached between 30 and 33 AD. After his death , his doctrines were avidly followed not in Judaea but in Rome itself where the socalled slaves (people from various parts of the empire i.e. lands around the Mediterranean Sea ) accepted Christianity and rallied round it to fight the official Roman religion of sunworship. It remained an underground movement in catacombs for the next 300 years when in 325 AD Roman Emperor Constantine convened a Council (of all religious sects) in Nicaea ( a town in Asia MInor -Turkey) and proclaimed Christianity to be the official religion of the Roman Empire. From 325 AD to 1510 the Portuguese Christianity was no doubt,purer than the pure Christianity in Rome. So it was pure Christian doctrines that were imposed upon Goans. But then the Christianity became somewhat blemished in the hands of our glorious bahmon padris who retained the Hindo caste system through religious organization called confraria.
[Goanet] who are you
Many times we boast that our religion is founded by christ and that protestants are traitors. Many times priest speak about believers saying that they do not believe in Mother Mary. How many of the catholics know your religion!!!If any one tries to argue they say you are spoiling my faith. We are emotional fools. In the first case Christianity came to exist in Rome when Constantine 5 became the emperor. He became the emperor in the 7 century that means after 700 years or more after christ died so Peter cannot live so long and so he cannot be a pope. He was crucified up side down. A pope cannot be crucified. There are other things which will take time to discuss. can any one explain this ? Mary is the mother of Jesus. she has not had many names . catholics believe in idiols.
[Goanet] who do you think you are?
I saw this repeat programme a couple of days ago; it is aboutwell read it yourself! Gurinder Chadha is best known as the writer and director of *Bend It Like Beckham*. The film's humour and charm delighted audiences around the world, but the process of making it was touched by sorrow - while Gurinder was writing the screenplay, her beloved father Bhajan passed away. As with many people who have lost a parent, the death of Gurinder's father moved her to take more of an interest in her family's background, and to learn more about her own place within that story. Gurinder was born in 1960 in Kenya, then a year later Bhajan took the decision to leave and make a new life for his family in Britain. Her family retains strong ties to Kenya, but nonetheless Gurinder feels British, a theme she tries to reflect in her work. Her trail started in the Kenyan town of Kericho, where Gurinder's father Bhajan was born. At the end of the nineteenth century, Britain took control of Kenya and set about developing the new colony using cheap labour from other, more established regions of the British Empire, such as India. Bhajan's father Bishen and two of his brothers were among the first to make the move. In 1917, the brothers decided to go into business together. Since they were legally unable to buy land in the nascent colony - only white settlers were afforded that right - they instead set up a general trading store named 'BS Chadha and Sons', which catered for the needs of a steady influx of white tea-farmers and their predominantly black workforce. One brother, Ladha, returned to India in 1920, while the other, Lakha, set up a mill in a quiet, remote area of the country called Lumbwa. Only Gurinder's grandfather Bishen decided to stay in Kericho and take his chances with the family shop. He married an Indian woman, Takar Devi, and the couple thrived as Bishen's business grew. In 1929, Takar Devi gave birth to their fifth child, Bhajan - Gurinder's father. Hungry for more information about the lives of her wealthy grandfather and his brothers, she learned that Lakha had died in 1936, after which Bishen had added his brother's mill to his business, helped out by his sons Mohinder and Bhajan after they had completed their studies. According to a family rumour, Lakha had at one stage lived with an African woman, and had fathered two children with her. At the time this would have been regarded as deeply shameful, since colonial Kenya was bound by a rigid class system, with whites at the top, Indians in the middle and native blacks at the bottom of the heap. Despite her best efforts, Gurinder was never able to track down this enigmatic relative, although she did find out that the rumour was in fact true. The next step on Gurinder's journey was India, searching for clues about her family's history before her grandfather and his brothers moved to Kenya. Bishen, her grandfather, was born in Dariala Jalib, a village about two hours drive from Jhelum, formerly a part of northern India, but now part of Pakistan. In 1947, Takar Devi journeyed to Dariala Jalib with five of their children to find suitable marriages for her daughters. It was during the momentous and volatile period of the Partition of India. As Sikhs, Takar Devi and her family found themselves on the 'wrong' side of the newly created border. In constant danger and fearing for their lives, they were forced to travel for several days until they reached Panipat, to the north of Delhi. For six months they remained as virtual refugees, surviving on pitiful amounts of food and water. Tragically, their youngest daughter died. Bishen scoured the country for his family and when he found them could not believe his eyes, so pale and thin had they all become. COMMENT: The scenes depicted of Kericho town could have been of a bygone era, still the same sleepy place. There were a few Goans living there as well as in places like Eldoret and Nyeri, Nanuki - it would be interesting to hear their stories! -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Who would you vote for in Goa's election on June 2/07??
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- On 31/05/07, Goanet Poll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elections to Goa's Legislative Assembly will be held on June 2, 2007. If you are/were in Goa, whom would you vote for on June 2/07 [] BJP [] Congress / NCP [] Any regional party [] An independent [] None of the above [] I think all politicians are crooks Cast your vote at: http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=NS-Pollsfile=indexpollID=24 Goanet POLL RESPONSE: Doggy kinda Poll; my ready reckoner, on the votes, so far cast, would indicate BJP 8 seats, congress 12 seats, Regional party i.e. SGF; UGDP, MGP others 3 seats, Independents 4 seatsso the rest would not vote for any of those shown or think that all are corrupt. We still have to arrive at 40 elected whether you vote or think that all are corrupt ! This would not show, at all the pattern of the votes which will be cast, in reality. For instance, an Independent like Vishwagit Rane is sure to get through but would perhaps not make a mark on the poll. So also Babush Monserrate, will come through, solely on the, basis of works implemented in his Constituency. The regional Parties seem to have done poorly in the Poll; let's wait and see ! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Who would you vote for in Goa's election on June 2/07??
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- Elections to Goa's Legislative Assembly will be held on June 2, 2007. If you are/were in Goa, whom would you vote for on June 2/07 [] BJP [] Congress / NCP [] Any regional party [] An independent [] None of the above [] I think all politicians are crooks Cast your vote at: http://www.goanet.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=NS-Pollsfile=indexpollID=24 Goanet POLL http://www.goanet.org --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
