Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism and boycotts

2006-09-18 Thread Mario Goveia

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> Frederick "FN" Noronha fredericknoronha at gmail.com
> Sat Sep 16 19:40:21 PDT 2006 
>  
> Whoa, Mario. Do go slow. Don't try to act as judge,
> jury and executioner all rolled into one... that
> too, without knowing the facts adequately.
> 
Mario responds:
>
Fred,
Calm down, man.  Did you miss the smiley faces (see
again below)?
>
I had suggested a letter writing campaign by a list of
eloquent Goanet writers to the Editors of Goan
newspapers as being more effective than a boycott of
Goan newspapers by US-based Goans. [Note: No smiley
face.]
>
When Selma, in her infinite wisdom, exempted the
writers from participating in her agitation due to
economic reasons I asked rhetorically whether these
money-grubbing writers should also be boycotted for
being concerned about the economic impact, or should
only the money-grubbing newspaper publishers be
punished:-)) [Note: Smiley face]
>
US-based Goans have been effectively boycotting Goan
newspapers for years now, and they are apparently
still publishing caste-centric matrimonials:-)) [Note:
Smiley face]
>



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Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism and boycotts

2006-09-16 Thread Frederick \"FN\" Noronha
Whoa, Mario. Do go slow. Don't try to act as judge, jury and
executioner all rolled into one... that too, without knowing the facts
adequately.

* Firstly, publications in Goa pay their writers very poorly -- in a
situation of considerable politicking. That's why, anyone who can make
it would prefer to write for the outstation media. Had people like me
to depend on the media in Goa for my freelancing work since 1994, the
situation would have been one close to penury.

* Some writers *are* already semi-blacklisted by the media in Goa.
Unless there's a yawning gap waiting to be filled, I find it more
difficult to get published in Panjim, then on say the BBC website.

* Most of Goanet's contributors and writers don't have a "hand that
feeds them" relationship with the media in Goa. So if they want to,
they can be critical.

* The challenge is how to open up more space for people to express
themselves, and for more diverse views to come up. Including critical
perspectives. Not just to condemn baby with bath-water, your average
writer with media major-players.

You've just taken one strand out of Selma's argument ... and not
necessarily the most pertinent one! FN

PS: An interesting case of the media coverage in the Siolim suspected
murder is emerging now. More on that later Off to Panjim.

On 16/09/06, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Mario's idea of writing to the newspapers is a good
> > one but I don't expect too many writers in Goa to
> > take it up, since one can't bite the hand that
> > feeds the golden goose, to mix my proverbs.

> Mario observes:

> Oh, I get it.  Writers, whose idealistic writings
> suggest they want to transform society for the better,
> won't bite the hand that feeds some goose in order to
> oppose casteism, but newspaper publishers are supposed
> to?  Makes perfect sense.

> Should we boycott these writers as well?

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Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism and boycotts

2006-09-16 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Mario's idea of writing to the newspapers is a good
> one but I don't expect too many writers in Goa to
> take it up, since one can't bite the hand that 
> feeds the golden goose, to mix my proverbs.
> 
Mario observes:
>
Oh, I get it.  Writers, whose idealistic writings
suggest they want to transform society for the better,
won't bite the hand that feeds some goose in order to
oppose casteism, but newspaper publishers are supposed
to?  Makes perfect sense.
>
Should we boycott these writers as well?
>
  
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Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism and boycotts

2006-09-15 Thread Carvalho

I respectfully disagree. If you see a sign outside a
pub that says No Goans Allowed and you got in because
you didn't look like a Goan, would you go around
telling non-Goans not to go in or you yourself would
take a stand and not go in?

Sometimes institutions, organisations and countries
have to be held accountable and boycotted for the
injustices they help perpetuate. 

There are several notable boycotts that helped raise
awareness and forced the companies, organisations or
countries to reassess their policies. The famous
boycott of goods made in S. Africa, the boycott of
companies that use child-labour, the boycott of
magazines that feature models with real fur, the
boycott of "blood diamonds" from Sierra Leone, the
banning of hard alcohol advertising on television, the
banning of cigarette advertising that specifically
targets children.

Sometimes you change society from the grassroots, at
other times you make bold statements that highlight
the situation and leads to its re-examination.

Mario's idea of writing to the newspapers is a good
one but I don't expect too many writers in Goa to take
it up, since one can't bite the hand that feeds the
golden goose, to mix my proverbs.

Selma
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--- Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Cecil thinks:
> It's easy to blame newspapers and church authorities
> and 'the system', 
> rather than blame ourselves. If you see an unethical
> advert for a product 
> or a service you would boycott the advertiser and
> not the medium that 
> carried the advert. 

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