Re: [Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Venantius J Pinto]

Hi Dan—

Good evening!

That recommendation is highly appreciated, and comes at an interesting
point or rather crossroad in my life.
I have often thought of reading Chardin, but set him aside for a more
opportune time. But can say this much
that I am taking my gifts very seriously. Finally.

See attached, the piece I had mentioned—for the Kyoto Journal. I feel
comfortable sharing it with you.
I will be looking closely at it tonight before it goes out.

The Indonesians have again invited me for their Film Festival at the School
of the Visual Arts. So off now.

Thank you,
—Venantius

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Dan Driscoll 
wrote:

> Did I mention, for you, some reading of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin? In my
> 'overview' you are among those in 'vanguard' of emerging human
> consciousness --- consequent upon what Teilhard describes as 'human family
> now becoming planetized'.
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
> venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dan—
> >
> > Awesome, to know you’ve have had a glorious and long relationship with/in
> > Goa.
> > These things matter in the way ones being materializes into
> potentiality. I
> > vaguely
> > recollect the marine workshop. Perhaps my father would have known them.
> The
> > property on both sides of the petrol pump where Nerul begins, is ours,
> and
> > hopefully
> > my brothers have some ideas about it. But I stay in my corner, although
> the
> > eldest.
> > They are both in India.
> >
> > I was born, and raised in Bombay; of Nerul, near Betim; and Batim
> (mother).
> > The longest I lived in Goa was for three months. But my sensibility in
> > things as also
> > nature is very much Goan. But thats just be saying. It encompasses a
> lived
> > aesthetic
> > that has taken in/to a degree one will say, an amalgamation of the/from
> the
> > Goan,
> > the Indian (but distinct) with my American being, and study of Japanese
> art
> > and
> > calligraphy (7th Dan, and other ranks).
> >
> > Its a long story, of a simple person who has seen a few things and walked
> > into
> > some shadows! Pleased tp say that the path continues getting shaped.
> >
> > See:
> > Levitating Enclosures, Procellous Washes and Shunted Wagons
> > *Chintlelem ghodlelem zalear mellelim ghora ietelim aslim.*
> > If our thoughts were to be realized the dead would return home.
> *—*Konkani
> > proverb
> > http://venantiusjpinto.blogspot.com/2009/12/levitating-enclosures-
> > procellous-washes.html
> >
> > Todo es gracia :: All is grace
> > http://venantiusjpinto.blogspot.com/2016/12/todo-es-
> > gracia-all-is-grace.html
> >
> > Good things still happen. I get to do some good work, and stay in the
> > running slowly forging.
> > I know where I stand in the art firmament that is Indian or for that
> matter
> > any other place.
> >
> > Right now, working on my fourth project for the Kyoto Journal. Small
> > mercies.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > —Venantius
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Dan Driscoll 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I see that you have 'big story too'. Were you born/raised in Goa? I
> > married
> > > a girl from one of those 'Old Goan Families), so lived on River Mandovi
> > for
> > > upwards of thirty years. One of my good friends there was Chirstovo
> Pinto
> > > (in Betim, near Marine Workshop).
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
> > > venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Dan—
> > > >
> > > > Wow, wow, and awesome. Appreciate you extrapolating and given me the
> > > segway
> > > > to share.
> > > >
> > > > I have not heard of Namanand Modak, nor of Anjali Ashram, and
> > appreciate
> > > > you mentioned both.
> > > >
> > > > Years ago, I paid a visit to the National Film Board of Canada, and
> > bough
> > > > some VHS tapes.
> > > > Although we were there for a short while, the impression on my
> > > sensibility
> > > > was tremendous.
> > > > It would be good if Goans had the chance to see Norman McLaren’s
> films,
> > > > especially, Neighbors.
> > > > I believe Ishu Patel is still at the NFBC!? Things changed
> drastically
> > > for
> > > > me; but I cannot forget them.
> > > > So many of them.
> > > >
> > > > I graduated from Pratt Institute, from the CG Dept. My short film,
> > > Shunyata
> > > > was realized
> > > > in mixed-media animation. But things worked differently, and just
> > > perhaps I
> > > > may get back
> > > > someday to animating. Sill, all experiences bolster us. Needless to
> > say,
> > > > but animation has
> > > > come a long way and will keep going on. The first batch of CG
> animators
> > > in
> > > > Canada and
> > > > the US, all divorced! The work and exploits took their toll. Btw,
> > > remember
> > > > the Benson & Hedges
> > > > commercial, which was computed at the National Center for
> > Supercomputing
> > > > Applications!
> > > >
> > > > Canada has played a tremendous role in developing programs, having
> > > Sheridan
> 

Re: [Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Dan Driscoll]

Did I mention, for you, some reading of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin? In my
'overview' you are among those in 'vanguard' of emerging human
consciousness --- consequent upon what Teilhard describes as 'human family
now becoming planetized'.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan—
>
> Awesome, to know you’ve have had a glorious and long relationship with/in
> Goa.
> These things matter in the way ones being materializes into potentiality. I
> vaguely
> recollect the marine workshop. Perhaps my father would have known them. The
> property on both sides of the petrol pump where Nerul begins, is ours, and
> hopefully
> my brothers have some ideas about it. But I stay in my corner, although the
> eldest.
> They are both in India.
>
> I was born, and raised in Bombay; of Nerul, near Betim; and Batim (mother).
> The longest I lived in Goa was for three months. But my sensibility in
> things as also
> nature is very much Goan. But thats just be saying. It encompasses a lived
> aesthetic
> that has taken in/to a degree one will say, an amalgamation of the/from the
> Goan,
> the Indian (but distinct) with my American being, and study of Japanese art
> and
> calligraphy (7th Dan, and other ranks).
>
> Its a long story, of a simple person who has seen a few things and walked
> into
> some shadows! Pleased tp say that the path continues getting shaped.
>
> See:
> Levitating Enclosures, Procellous Washes and Shunted Wagons
> *Chintlelem ghodlelem zalear mellelim ghora ietelim aslim.*
> If our thoughts were to be realized the dead would return home. *—*Konkani
> proverb
> http://venantiusjpinto.blogspot.com/2009/12/levitating-enclosures-
> procellous-washes.html
>
> Todo es gracia :: All is grace
> http://venantiusjpinto.blogspot.com/2016/12/todo-es-
> gracia-all-is-grace.html
>
> Good things still happen. I get to do some good work, and stay in the
> running slowly forging.
> I know where I stand in the art firmament that is Indian or for that matter
> any other place.
>
> Right now, working on my fourth project for the Kyoto Journal. Small
> mercies.
>
> Thank you.
>
> —Venantius
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Dan Driscoll 
> wrote:
>
> > I see that you have 'big story too'. Were you born/raised in Goa? I
> married
> > a girl from one of those 'Old Goan Families), so lived on River Mandovi
> for
> > upwards of thirty years. One of my good friends there was Chirstovo Pinto
> > (in Betim, near Marine Workshop).
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
> > venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Dan—
> > >
> > > Wow, wow, and awesome. Appreciate you extrapolating and given me the
> > segway
> > > to share.
> > >
> > > I have not heard of Namanand Modak, nor of Anjali Ashram, and
> appreciate
> > > you mentioned both.
> > >
> > > Years ago, I paid a visit to the National Film Board of Canada, and
> bough
> > > some VHS tapes.
> > > Although we were there for a short while, the impression on my
> > sensibility
> > > was tremendous.
> > > It would be good if Goans had the chance to see Norman McLaren’s films,
> > > especially, Neighbors.
> > > I believe Ishu Patel is still at the NFBC!? Things changed drastically
> > for
> > > me; but I cannot forget them.
> > > So many of them.
> > >
> > > I graduated from Pratt Institute, from the CG Dept. My short film,
> > Shunyata
> > > was realized
> > > in mixed-media animation. But things worked differently, and just
> > perhaps I
> > > may get back
> > > someday to animating. Sill, all experiences bolster us. Needless to
> say,
> > > but animation has
> > > come a long way and will keep going on. The first batch of CG animators
> > in
> > > Canada and
> > > the US, all divorced! The work and exploits took their toll. Btw,
> > remember
> > > the Benson & Hedges
> > > commercial, which was computed at the National Center for
> Supercomputing
> > > Applications!
> > >
> > > Canada has played a tremendous role in developing programs, having
> > Sheridan
> > > and other schools,
> > > and by assiduously creating outlets for animators. The animators too,
> > have
> > > played their cards and more.
> > >
> > > My base has always been traditional.
> > >
> > > My journey in painting murals is recent and began with the Mexicans,
> and
> > is
> > > now six murals strong.
> > > Next month, I head to Candelaria, Misiones, Argentina to paint my first
> > > there, at the site of one of the
> > > Jesuit missions (reducciones). Paid for! Btw, there were thirty
> > stretching
> > > from Paraguay. Bolivia, Brazil,
> > > and Argentina.
> > >
> > > Then, from Oct–mid Nov, will be painting six murals in Colombia. And
> then
> > > teach a course in Poinxedeje,
> > > Hidalgo, Mexico. I hope to sketch, and cook some, and get into the 2018
> > > exhausted and burnt out, or
> > > rejuvenated and raring to deal with fresher horrors, via generating new
> > > projects, including calligraphy
> > 

Re: [Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Venantius J Pinto]

Hi Dan—

Awesome, to know you’ve have had a glorious and long relationship with/in
Goa.
These things matter in the way ones being materializes into potentiality. I
vaguely
recollect the marine workshop. Perhaps my father would have known them. The
property on both sides of the petrol pump where Nerul begins, is ours, and
hopefully
my brothers have some ideas about it. But I stay in my corner, although the
eldest.
They are both in India.

I was born, and raised in Bombay; of Nerul, near Betim; and Batim (mother).
The longest I lived in Goa was for three months. But my sensibility in
things as also
nature is very much Goan. But thats just be saying. It encompasses a lived
aesthetic
that has taken in/to a degree one will say, an amalgamation of the/from the
Goan,
the Indian (but distinct) with my American being, and study of Japanese art
and
calligraphy (7th Dan, and other ranks).

Its a long story, of a simple person who has seen a few things and walked
into
some shadows! Pleased tp say that the path continues getting shaped.

See:
Levitating Enclosures, Procellous Washes and Shunted Wagons
*Chintlelem ghodlelem zalear mellelim ghora ietelim aslim.*
If our thoughts were to be realized the dead would return home. *—*Konkani
proverb
http://venantiusjpinto.blogspot.com/2009/12/levitating-enclosures-procellous-washes.html

Todo es gracia :: All is grace
http://venantiusjpinto.blogspot.com/2016/12/todo-es-gracia-all-is-grace.html

Good things still happen. I get to do some good work, and stay in the
running slowly forging.
I know where I stand in the art firmament that is Indian or for that matter
any other place.

Right now, working on my fourth project for the Kyoto Journal. Small
mercies.

Thank you.

—Venantius



On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Dan Driscoll 
wrote:

> I see that you have 'big story too'. Were you born/raised in Goa? I married
> a girl from one of those 'Old Goan Families), so lived on River Mandovi for
> upwards of thirty years. One of my good friends there was Chirstovo Pinto
> (in Betim, near Marine Workshop).
>
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
> venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dan—
> >
> > Wow, wow, and awesome. Appreciate you extrapolating and given me the
> segway
> > to share.
> >
> > I have not heard of Namanand Modak, nor of Anjali Ashram, and appreciate
> > you mentioned both.
> >
> > Years ago, I paid a visit to the National Film Board of Canada, and bough
> > some VHS tapes.
> > Although we were there for a short while, the impression on my
> sensibility
> > was tremendous.
> > It would be good if Goans had the chance to see Norman McLaren’s films,
> > especially, Neighbors.
> > I believe Ishu Patel is still at the NFBC!? Things changed drastically
> for
> > me; but I cannot forget them.
> > So many of them.
> >
> > I graduated from Pratt Institute, from the CG Dept. My short film,
> Shunyata
> > was realized
> > in mixed-media animation. But things worked differently, and just
> perhaps I
> > may get back
> > someday to animating. Sill, all experiences bolster us. Needless to say,
> > but animation has
> > come a long way and will keep going on. The first batch of CG animators
> in
> > Canada and
> > the US, all divorced! The work and exploits took their toll. Btw,
> remember
> > the Benson & Hedges
> > commercial, which was computed at the National Center for Supercomputing
> > Applications!
> >
> > Canada has played a tremendous role in developing programs, having
> Sheridan
> > and other schools,
> > and by assiduously creating outlets for animators. The animators too,
> have
> > played their cards and more.
> >
> > My base has always been traditional.
> >
> > My journey in painting murals is recent and began with the Mexicans, and
> is
> > now six murals strong.
> > Next month, I head to Candelaria, Misiones, Argentina to paint my first
> > there, at the site of one of the
> > Jesuit missions (reducciones). Paid for! Btw, there were thirty
> stretching
> > from Paraguay. Bolivia, Brazil,
> > and Argentina.
> >
> > Then, from Oct–mid Nov, will be painting six murals in Colombia. And then
> > teach a course in Poinxedeje,
> > Hidalgo, Mexico. I hope to sketch, and cook some, and get into the 2018
> > exhausted and burnt out, or
> > rejuvenated and raring to deal with fresher horrors, via generating new
> > projects, including calligraphy
> > and print making.
> >
> > My artistic labor is accessible online. I must also add that it does not
> > follow a
> > discernible trajectory. :) Search: Venantius Pinto; or Venantius J Pinto.
> >
> > As I say in my feeble Spanish: Vivivimos tantas vidas, y tantas vidas
> viven
> > en nosotros.
> > (We live many lives, and many lives live within us).
> >
> > More, some other time.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
>

Re: [Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Dan Driscoll]

I see that you have 'big story too'. Were you born/raised in Goa? I married
a girl from one of those 'Old Goan Families), so lived on River Mandovi for
upwards of thirty years. One of my good friends there was Chirstovo Pinto
(in Betim, near Marine Workshop).

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan—
>
> Wow, wow, and awesome. Appreciate you extrapolating and given me the segway
> to share.
>
> I have not heard of Namanand Modak, nor of Anjali Ashram, and appreciate
> you mentioned both.
>
> Years ago, I paid a visit to the National Film Board of Canada, and bough
> some VHS tapes.
> Although we were there for a short while, the impression on my sensibility
> was tremendous.
> It would be good if Goans had the chance to see Norman McLaren’s films,
> especially, Neighbors.
> I believe Ishu Patel is still at the NFBC!? Things changed drastically for
> me; but I cannot forget them.
> So many of them.
>
> I graduated from Pratt Institute, from the CG Dept. My short film, Shunyata
> was realized
> in mixed-media animation. But things worked differently, and just perhaps I
> may get back
> someday to animating. Sill, all experiences bolster us. Needless to say,
> but animation has
> come a long way and will keep going on. The first batch of CG animators in
> Canada and
> the US, all divorced! The work and exploits took their toll. Btw, remember
> the Benson & Hedges
> commercial, which was computed at the National Center for Supercomputing
> Applications!
>
> Canada has played a tremendous role in developing programs, having Sheridan
> and other schools,
> and by assiduously creating outlets for animators. The animators too, have
> played their cards and more.
>
> My base has always been traditional.
>
> My journey in painting murals is recent and began with the Mexicans, and is
> now six murals strong.
> Next month, I head to Candelaria, Misiones, Argentina to paint my first
> there, at the site of one of the
> Jesuit missions (reducciones). Paid for! Btw, there were thirty stretching
> from Paraguay. Bolivia, Brazil,
> and Argentina.
>
> Then, from Oct–mid Nov, will be painting six murals in Colombia. And then
> teach a course in Poinxedeje,
> Hidalgo, Mexico. I hope to sketch, and cook some, and get into the 2018
> exhausted and burnt out, or
> rejuvenated and raring to deal with fresher horrors, via generating new
> projects, including calligraphy
> and print making.
>
> My artistic labor is accessible online. I must also add that it does not
> follow a
> discernible trajectory. :) Search: Venantius Pinto; or Venantius J Pinto.
>
> As I say in my feeble Spanish: Vivivimos tantas vidas, y tantas vidas viven
> en nosotros.
> (We live many lives, and many lives live within us).
>
> More, some other time.
>
> Thank you,
>

Re: [Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Venantius J Pinto]

Hi Dan—

Wow, wow, and awesome. Appreciate you extrapolating and given me the segway
to share.

I have not heard of Namanand Modak, nor of Anjali Ashram, and appreciate
you mentioned both.

Years ago, I paid a visit to the National Film Board of Canada, and bough
some VHS tapes.
Although we were there for a short while, the impression on my sensibility
was tremendous.
It would be good if Goans had the chance to see Norman McLaren’s films,
especially, Neighbors.
I believe Ishu Patel is still at the NFBC!? Things changed drastically for
me; but I cannot forget them.
So many of them.

I graduated from Pratt Institute, from the CG Dept. My short film, Shunyata
was realized
in mixed-media animation. But things worked differently, and just perhaps I
may get back
someday to animating. Sill, all experiences bolster us. Needless to say,
but animation has
come a long way and will keep going on. The first batch of CG animators in
Canada and
the US, all divorced! The work and exploits took their toll. Btw, remember
the Benson & Hedges
commercial, which was computed at the National Center for Supercomputing
Applications!

Canada has played a tremendous role in developing programs, having Sheridan
and other schools,
and by assiduously creating outlets for animators. The animators too, have
played their cards and more.

My base has always been traditional.

My journey in painting murals is recent and began with the Mexicans, and is
now six murals strong.
Next month, I head to Candelaria, Misiones, Argentina to paint my first
there, at the site of one of the
Jesuit missions (reducciones). Paid for! Btw, there were thirty stretching
from Paraguay. Bolivia, Brazil,
and Argentina.

Then, from Oct–mid Nov, will be painting six murals in Colombia. And then
teach a course in Poinxedeje,
Hidalgo, Mexico. I hope to sketch, and cook some, and get into the 2018
exhausted and burnt out, or
rejuvenated and raring to deal with fresher horrors, via generating new
projects, including calligraphy
and print making.

My artistic labor is accessible online. I must also add that it does not
follow a
discernible trajectory. :) Search: Venantius Pinto; or Venantius J Pinto.

As I say in my feeble Spanish: Vivivimos tantas vidas, y tantas vidas viven
en nosotros.
(We live many lives, and many lives live within us).

More, some other time.

Thank you,

Re: [Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Dan Driscoll]

Right on; thanks for Response. I think that the 'e-circle' letters protocol
is 'cutting edge' in  terms of dialogue in Religious Culture. A further
question arises concerning 'role of the artist'. Have you ever heard of a
man by name Namanand Modak of Sindudurgh (MA.). Several of his canvases are
at Anjali Ashram, put there by me. Some of the Artists should take careful
note of what is going down in 'digital animation'. My early work in Canada
was much involved with animation by Norman McLaren, whom I knew personally.
Now, one can practically 'create' the digital format to suit the subject
matter. A group here is looking at a good story which I think could best be
'illustrated' by a 'sand-painting' adaptation. Disney-works are much into
the kind of 'corn-doll' persona---which has worked well, but should be
thought of as 'only the beginning'.

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
venantius.pi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dan—
>
> Appreciate you letting us know. I did not know this.
> I will look into this. Perhaps paint a mural someday on them, including
> Joseph Vaz….
>
> Thank you,
> —Venantius J Pinto
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Dan Driscoll 
> wrote:
>
> > Many Thanks. As you may know Fr. Amalor's Cause' is now up for
> > Canonization. He quite often made the point that Ghandi made---no
> Memorial
> > except 'The Work'; but evidently a family relation who 'did well in USA'
> > greased the Vatican wheel, and it all landed on Fr. Louis's desk in
> Mysore.
> > I was asked to give a 'Witness Letter', which I did---Attachment.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
> > venantius.pi...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Dan—
> > > Brilliant.
> > > —vjp
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Goanet Reformat <
> > goanet.refor...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >  Yes, of course; but is the horse not already half out of the barn?
> In
> > > > mid-seventies I attended 'upadesa' sessions given in Mysore by
> 'Father
> > > > Amalor' (Amalorananda) --- Reverend D.S. Amalorpavadass, who
> championed
> > > > 'Inculturation' in the wake of earlier spiritual leaders who insisted
> > > that
> > > > the Vedanta & Christianity are joined in the natural evolution of
> > > East/West
> > > > human culture becoming 'planetized'. Later 'tributaries' such as
> Islam,
> > > in
> > > > due Evolutionary fashion join the mainstream---but everything takes
> > Time!
> > > >
> > > > Amalor's detractors accused him of trying to 'Hinduise Christianity'
> > and
> > > > went to the extent of making a legal issue of it (in Madras/Chennai)
> > > which
> > > > fortunately did not go very far.  These Issues are not 'solved' by
> the
> > > > stroke of some power-broker pen but by a collective effort involving
> > > > 'lifestyle adaptations'. Open Letter signed by Christian
> Intellectuals
> > is
> > > > commendable, but there can be danger of 'activist-sounding brass &
> > > tinkling
> > > > cymbal'.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Venantius J Pinto]

Hi Dan—

Appreciate you letting us know. I did not know this.
I will look into this. Perhaps paint a mural someday on them, including
Joseph Vaz….

Thank you,
—Venantius J Pinto


On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Dan Driscoll 
wrote:

> Many Thanks. As you may know Fr. Amalor's Cause' is now up for
> Canonization. He quite often made the point that Ghandi made---no Memorial
> except 'The Work'; but evidently a family relation who 'did well in USA'
> greased the Vatican wheel, and it all landed on Fr. Louis's desk in Mysore.
> I was asked to give a 'Witness Letter', which I did---Attachment.
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Venantius J Pinto <
> venantius.pi...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Dan—
> > Brilliant.
> > —vjp
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Goanet Reformat <
> goanet.refor...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >  Yes, of course; but is the horse not already half out of the barn? In
> > > mid-seventies I attended 'upadesa' sessions given in Mysore by 'Father
> > > Amalor' (Amalorananda) --- Reverend D.S. Amalorpavadass, who championed
> > > 'Inculturation' in the wake of earlier spiritual leaders who insisted
> > that
> > > the Vedanta & Christianity are joined in the natural evolution of
> > East/West
> > > human culture becoming 'planetized'. Later 'tributaries' such as Islam,
> > in
> > > due Evolutionary fashion join the mainstream---but everything takes
> Time!
> > >
> > > Amalor's detractors accused him of trying to 'Hinduise Christianity'
> and
> > > went to the extent of making a legal issue of it (in Madras/Chennai)
> > which
> > > fortunately did not go very far.  These Issues are not 'solved' by the
> > > stroke of some power-broker pen but by a collective effort involving
> > > 'lifestyle adaptations'. Open Letter signed by Christian Intellectuals
> is
> > > commendable, but there can be danger of 'activist-sounding brass &
> > tinkling
> > > cymbal'.
> > >
> >
>

Re: [Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Dan Driscoll]

Many Thanks. As you may know Fr. Amalor's Cause' is now up for
Canonization. He quite often made the point that Ghandi made---no Memorial
except 'The Work'; but evidently a family relation who 'did well in USA'
greased the Vatican wheel, and it all landed on Fr. Louis's desk in Mysore.
I was asked to give a 'Witness Letter', which I did---Attachment.

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Venantius J Pinto  wrote:

> Dan—
> Brilliant.
> —vjp
>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Goanet Reformat  >
> wrote:
>
> >  Yes, of course; but is the horse not already half out of the barn? In
> > mid-seventies I attended 'upadesa' sessions given in Mysore by 'Father
> > Amalor' (Amalorananda) --- Reverend D.S. Amalorpavadass, who championed
> > 'Inculturation' in the wake of earlier spiritual leaders who insisted
> that
> > the Vedanta & Christianity are joined in the natural evolution of
> East/West
> > human culture becoming 'planetized'. Later 'tributaries' such as Islam,
> in
> > due Evolutionary fashion join the mainstream---but everything takes Time!
> >
> > Amalor's detractors accused him of trying to 'Hinduise Christianity' and
> > went to the extent of making a legal issue of it (in Madras/Chennai)
> which
> > fortunately did not go very far.  These Issues are not 'solved' by the
> > stroke of some power-broker pen but by a collective effort involving
> > 'lifestyle adaptations'. Open Letter signed by Christian Intellectuals is
> > commendable, but there can be danger of 'activist-sounding brass &
> tinkling
> > cymbal'.
> >
>

Re: [Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Venantius J Pinto]

Dan—
Brilliant.
—vjp

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Goanet Reformat 
wrote:

>  Yes, of course; but is the horse not already half out of the barn? In
> mid-seventies I attended 'upadesa' sessions given in Mysore by 'Father
> Amalor' (Amalorananda) --- Reverend D.S. Amalorpavadass, who championed
> 'Inculturation' in the wake of earlier spiritual leaders who insisted that
> the Vedanta & Christianity are joined in the natural evolution of East/West
> human culture becoming 'planetized'. Later 'tributaries' such as Islam, in
> due Evolutionary fashion join the mainstream---but everything takes Time!
>
> Amalor's detractors accused him of trying to 'Hinduise Christianity' and
> went to the extent of making a legal issue of it (in Madras/Chennai) which
> fortunately did not go very far.  These Issues are not 'solved' by the
> stroke of some power-broker pen but by a collective effort involving
> 'lifestyle adaptations'. Open Letter signed by Christian Intellectuals is
> commendable, but there can be danger of 'activist-sounding brass & tinkling
> cymbal'.
>

[Goanet] driscoll....@gmail.com (Dan Driscoll) on Re: Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India

[Goanet Reformat]

 Yes, of course; but is the horse not already half out of the barn? In
mid-seventies I attended 'upadesa' sessions given in Mysore by 'Father
Amalor' (Amalorananda) --- Reverend D.S. Amalorpavadass, who championed
'Inculturation' in the wake of earlier spiritual leaders who insisted that
the Vedanta & Christianity are joined in the natural evolution of East/West
human culture becoming 'planetized'. Later 'tributaries' such as Islam, in
due Evolutionary fashion join the mainstream---but everything takes Time!

Amalor's detractors accused him of trying to 'Hinduise Christianity' and
went to the extent of making a legal issue of it (in Madras/Chennai) which
fortunately did not go very far.  These Issues are not 'solved' by the
stroke of some power-broker pen but by a collective effort involving
'lifestyle adaptations'. Open Letter signed by Christian Intellectuals is
commendable, but there can be danger of 'activist-sounding brass & tinkling
cymbal'.

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Goanet Reader 
wrote:

> Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church in India
> THE CITIZEN BUREAU
> Break Your Silence: 101 Christian Intellectuals to the Church
>
> Saturday, August 05,2017
>
> NEW DELHI: A 101 Christian intellectuals from all walks of
> life have written an Open Letter to the silent---and as some
> would say---the rather timid leadership of the Church in
> India to come out in support of civil society in its struggle
> to "safeguard India's cultural and religious plurality and
> diversity, and the republics Constitutional values of
> secularism, and socialism."

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