[Goanet] Someone is taking advantage of your Ignorance

2013-07-08 Thread Melvyn Fernandes
Dear Goanet Readers

Where can I start, Religion has been the fountain of all our education, when it 
comes to Church accountability I have to agree with fellow participant on 
goanet Ms Ana Maria Fernandes, where is the collection money going, does anyone 
dare ask? The Padrigar through his office is the most important and 
busiest figure in village life however the infrastructure attitude of the 
Church is more geared to collection of revenue and in this paperless world with 
time 
constraints it would be difficult to list how the revenue collected is spent on 
the Church Notice Board and any good causes that arise. Around the world you 
will always find our people involved in thankless unpaid Church work. It would 
be nice to see the church as a club working in partnership with the 
community instead of Pay as you Go services with the clergy having to get by 
with the new selfish and mannerless community we have in Goa. Fr 
Desmond de Souza launched a resource book The Concerned Face of the Church in 
February 2012. Any lessons learnt can be like a blunt pencil - 
pointless as none appear to be applied.

In February 2013 having had to go to Bishops House at Altino Panjim, this was 
an opportunity to view the splendid building and gardens. The records kept 
look immaculate covering every village stretching to the days when Goa was an 
overseas province of Portugal. Today some Goa villages have been 
converted to overseas dependent terrorities as people have abandoned their 
homes and formed settlements abroad without any Government 
involvement. This facilitates the free flow of foreign exchange reducing the 
opportunity to develop local commerce and creating a self sufficient 
employable workforce. Business must be bad even Western Union has reduced its 
charges. 

My visit was to get the signature of my Parish Priest at Candolim verified by 
the Padre at Bishops House before the collectors office in Panjim for a nominal 
fee could process my documents. As you enter Bishops House a very polite man at 
reception pointed me in the right direction to a waiting room with all 
round seating. Having lived in Great Britain (GB) for many years and got used 
to characteristics such as manners (e.g. please and thank you, standing in 
a line to be served), I found our Goa Catholic educated people extremely 
mannerless ignoring the pleas from the really hard pressed administrative staff 
to take a seat to no avail. I then asked where the end of the line was and duly 
took my place only to find another three people walk past to go to the front. I 
found this unacceptable and asked the administrative staff if they had any 
system or book where people could put their names and form an orderly line. 
They said there was nothing they could do and asked me to contact the church 
authorities. With time running out an executive decision had to be made, I 
resorted to swear words in Konkani slightly garnished with English but with 
respect to Goanet I am unable to repeat these. 

At Bishops House, I felt like a sheep dog barking at our flock of village 
people with pea brained intellect and herd mentality. There was no shepherd 
with a 
stick, after my swear words the line soon assembled. At the front of the line 
is a small table with two chairs and a priest beavering away like an OCR reader 
(optical character recognition - as found on cheque books/bar codes) as though 
he was on a time schedule to process so many an hour - no human even 
a priest should work under these conditions even for the fee of rs20- (rupees 
twenty) I fear for his eyesight.   Can I take this opportunity as an open 
letter 
to Archbishop Filipe Neri António Sebastião do Rosário Ferrão to look into this 
matter and give directions to make this daily routine a happier work station 
both for the staff and their customers.   Can I also ask the Sirs who work in 
public offices to give directions to their staff as customer care is totally 
lacking 
in Goa. The Indian High Commission in London, England would not tolerate this 
behaviour, I witnessed a similar occurrence here where the line was from 
all parts of India gathered in a gaggle the 4ft high young lady at the counter 
announced in a real Indian female high pitched accent that unless a line was 
formed immediately the counter would be shut, it was very effective as a line 
formed with lightening speed, perhaps Bishops House and other Government 
Offices can do similar, the administrative staff are looking for direction from 
their shepherds all over Goa. 

The Public Records office at Mapusa has a similar situation - that's another 
story.

I hear that the Monestary at Pilar is celebrating its 400th birthday on 17 July 
2013. Something must be right in church matters.


Melvyn Fernandes
Thornton Heath, Surrey

8 July 2013



Re: [Goanet] someone is taking advantage of your ignorance

2013-06-26 Thread Seb dc
Ana maria seems to have an axe to grind against the church and clergy..

Its beyond anybody's guess, why she moans day in and day out!
That too on goanet!!

Please lord help her! Amen!!


From: Ana Maria Fernandes amferns_n...@hotmail.com

Priest attached to church and their leaders are taking advantage of our lay
people ignorance to emasse wealth and live a luxurious life. Every saint is
sitting on a box with a opening for donations. who takes the donations we do
not know. The statue of our lady goes round the village. lots of prayers and
what tamasha i cannot write here but who takes the money from the box
atttached to the statue no one knows. why is our religion become a pvt ltd ?
why use Jesus and Mary to grow your bank account  why do priest go to
europe and states for love of jesus or for their money ?





Re: [Goanet] someone is taking advantage of your ignorance

2013-06-26 Thread Jose Colaco
On Jun 25, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Ana Maria Fernandes amferns_n...@hotmail.com 
wrote:
'Priest attached to church and their leaders are taking advantage of our lay 
people ignorance'

COMMENT:

Two options:

1: Get out of ignorance by upgrading one's eduction.
2: Stay ignorant and Grumble.

jc