Re: [Goanet] Cancer Decisions - Simoncini's Bicarbonate Treatment For Cancer

2009-09-10 Thread Edward Verdes


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I am not a physican but I am very much in touch with Goa and have assisted a 
few Goans in their fight with Cancer in Mumbai.


I know Fr. Ivo lives in Goa and he knows whats happening in Goa...being a 
priest he is more in
contact with the people in Goa who are suffering from Cancer and who cannot 
afford the costly medicines...than
those Goans in American who can only lecture the Goans but cant be there 
physically in Goa to advise the cancer patients.


Forget about advising the patients...do they know that the Goan doctors 
themselves know about cancer cures or are they
able to detect cancer in the initial stages or their main aim to milk their 
patients. If science has progressed so much

why do we have to take opinions from 2-3 doctors.

Tata Memorial Hospital in Mumbai informs us that Cancer can be cured if 
detected in intial stages
but tell me how many doctors in Goa have been able to tell their patients or 
their familes that its cancer in initial stages?


As I said in my earlier post on Cancer...I have been with two patients from 
Goa who had come to Mumbai.
One had a letter addressed to Dr. in Bombay Hospital and the other Tata 
Hospital...both came in healthy and didnt
know it was Cancer...even the family members were not aware. one survived 
for 1 year and the other passed away
within a month...I was there with them and have seen what is going on..those 
who have visited the tata hospital in Mumbai
n been with the cancer patients will know what it is...its so easy to simply 
rely on cut and paste from websites.


I am not saying Cancer cant be cured.. surely the Americans may have a 
cure...but for the poor in Goa it is like we say..
Mollbak dolle pautat, punn hat pavona...our eyes can reach the sky...but the 
hands cant!


Eddie Verdes

Mario responds:

A PRIEST with no medical training cannot be allowed to spread such 
falsehoods in a public forum without rebuttal by medical scientists like 
Santosh and the other practicing physicians who are members of Goanet, many 
of whom are strangely sil 



Re: [Goanet] Cancer Decisions - Simoncini's Bicarbonate Treatment For Cancer

2009-09-10 Thread Santosh Helekar

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Eddie Verdes wrote:

I am not saying Cancer cant be cured.. surely the Americans may have a  
cure...but for the poor in Goa it is like we say..Mollbak dolle pautat, 
punn hat pavona...our eyes can reach the sky...but the hands cant!


I am a Goan. I completed by early medical education in Goa. I am in constant 
touch with cancer specialists in Goa. I am saying that all common cancers can 
be cured in Goa through early detection and proper treatment by a highly 
competent oncologist. The medicines and procedures that are available in the 
developed world are also available in Goa. 

If anecdotes is all you care about then I can tell you that my own grandmother 
was cured from breast cancer in the early 1970s in Goa and in the Tata Memorial 
Cancer Centre in Mumbai. She lived much beyond the life expectancy of a normal 
Indian woman without recurrence of her cancer.


--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Ivo da C.Souza icso...@bsnl.in wrote:


One of my students died of cancer within less than one month after surgery, 
chemotherapy and radiation, after he was declared as cured
 by Tata Memorial Hospital.
 

This is a fairy tale unworthy of even a cheap Bollywood movie. No 
scientifically trained physician gives such a declaration, and claims that a 
patient died of cancer without knowing the details of the case and the exact 
cause of death, which can only be definitively determined by a pathological 
autopsy. Common sense tells us that a patient who survived cancer can die of 
other causes, such as a heart attack. 


 ***Actually, I am trying to help them for palliation with
 my medical knowledge and training.
 

Cancer can only be competently diagnosed and treated today in India by an 
expert surgical or medical oncologist who has done the following:

1. Completed a five and a half year degree course in modern medicine in a 
recognized medical college, including a rotating internship of one year.

2. Obtained a modern medical degree and a licence to practice modern scientific 
medicine. 

3. Completed a recognized residency in a medical or surgical specialty. 

3. Obtained a postgraduate degree in that specialty.

4. Specialized in cancer surgery or medical oncology through further residency 
or fellowship training.

5. Maintained an active practice of oncology.

6. Kept up with the latest advances in cancer diagnosis and treatment through 
medical journals, continuing medical education and refresher courses.

Please do not entrust your life in the hands of a person who does not have the 
above qualifications and training.

Cheers,

Santosh


  


[Goanet] Re: Cancer Decisions - Simoncini's Bicarbonate Treatment For Cancer

2009-09-09 Thread Mario Goveia

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From: Ivo da C.Souza

 At the beginning of the 1900s, one person out of 100 died of cancer;
  today it is one out of three.
 We foresee that within a few years one out of two people will die of 
 cancer.

Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 00:12:42 -0400
From: Bosco D'Mello bos...@canada.com

The top 10 causes of death from the World Health Organization:

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs310/en/index.html

Mario responds:

Once again, we see the absolute garbage on cancer that Fr. Ivo has been posting.

We are also seeing a relentless barrage of unscientific and untested 
alternative medical information from Con Menezes as Santosh has begun to 
point out.

Why are these non-physicians posting information on serious issues like 
medicine and medical treatments from sources that promote medical information 
that has not been reviewed or tested by any respectable medical authority, that 
could lead to serious health problems for anyone who thinks this information is 
medically legitimate?

For example, if anyone out there believes Fr. Ivo's blanket garbage that cancer 
is incurable and acts accordingly by delaying testing and treatment, their 
lives may be put in jeopardy.

NONE of the alternative medical information that Con is posting has been 
tested by any credible authority.  NO ONE should believe any of this 
information without checking with a legitimate physician - some of it may be 
harmless, some of it may be harmful for your health.  No one really knows 
within any probability of effectiveness.

A PRIEST with no medical training cannot be allowed to spread such falsehoods 
in a public forum without rebuttal by medical scientists like Santosh and the 
other practicing physicians who are members of Goanet, many of whom are 
strangely silent.




Re: Cancer Decisions� - Simoncini's Bicarbonate Treatment For Cancer

2009-09-08 Thread Bosco D'Mello

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-Original Message-
From: Ivo da C.Souza

 At the beginning of the 1900s, one person out of 100 died of cancer; today
 it is one out of three.
 We foresee that within a few years one out of two people will die of cancer.


RESPONSE: The top 10 causes of death from the World Health Organization:

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs310/en/index.html


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