Re: [Goanet] Goa's so called Freedom fighters & special status for Goa *

2010-12-03 Thread floriano
Dear Goans,

I believe Soter has held a mirror in front of each Goan's face and the 
reflection is not worth looking at, terrible.
On the whole Soter may not be all that wrong.
"Major khuim xhastiram sangta ani pol'lan  agta"
Perhaps, hi'ch zaun assa ami Goenkaranchi goth ???
A zillion dollar question, indeed.

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org


 
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  Comment:
  In that case, right now to use your term, it has been the 'prostitutes' who 
  have saved Goa. Where are the initiatives started by Goans? We do not need 
  'prostitutes' from outside to derail anything, we have enough goans of Save 
  Goa fame.


  Comment:
  Who are the thorough bred Goans with Goan blood running in their veins? 
  Sorry to be so blunt, but can Goans in Goa, I repeat Goans in Goa, decide 
  anything besides socialising over booze?

  The problem is that Goans think that they are the most superior race in 
  India and know it all. That is why they are in such a pathetic state of 
  desperation.

  -Soter




Re: [Goanet] Goa's so called Freedom fighters & special status for Goa

2010-12-03 Thread soter


Floriano wrote:
But it must be remembered that any derailment that will take place of what 
Goans propose will be credited to the 'prostitutes' from outside who are 
well ensconced in the psyche of Goans to the extent that they are feeling 
GOOD.


Comment:
In that case, right now to use your term, it has been the 'prostitutes' who 
have saved Goa. Where are the initiatives started by Goans? We do not need 
'prostitutes' from outside to derail anything, we have enough goans of Save 
Goa fame.


Floriano wrote:
If at all anything should be decided for Goa, it should be by true 
thoroughbred Goans and who have the Goan blood running in their  veins.


Comment:
Who are the thorough bred Goans with Goan blood running in their veins? 
Sorry to be so blunt, but can Goans in Goa, I repeat Goans in Goa, decide 
anything besides socialising over booze?


The problem is that Goans think that they are the most superior race in 
India and know it all. That is why they are in such a pathetic state of 
desperation.


-Soter




Re: [Goanet] Goa's so called Freedom fighters & special status for Goa *

2010-12-02 Thread floriano
Not actually.

But it must be remembered that any derailment that will take place of what 
Goans propose will be credited to the 'prostitutes' from outside who are well 
ensconced in the psyche of Goans to the extent that they are feeling GOOD. 

If at all anything should be decided for Goa, it should be by true thoroughbred 
Goans and who have the Goan blood running in their  veins.

Just a caution

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org
  
 
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  Floriano wrote:
  Who is 'WE' ??
  Kalanand Mani of Peaceful Society & Co?

  Comment:
  Just supposing it was for argument sake, do you have a problem?

  -Soter


Re: [Goanet] Goa's so called Freedom fighters & special status for Goa

2010-12-02 Thread soter

Floriano wrote:
Who is 'WE' ??
Kalanand Mani of Peaceful Society & Co?

Comment:
Just supposing it was for argument sake, do you have a problem?

-Soter


Re: [Goanet] Goa's so called Freedom fighters & special status for Goa

2010-12-02 Thread soter

George wrote:
Can you (time permitting) state what you believe Special Status should 
entail. This will give readers an idea, perhaps a blueprint to consider.


Comment:
I think it is for those who keep advocating for special status that need to 
spell out exactly what they mean. I have not raised the bogey of 'Special 
Status'.
In fact there was an initiative taken by us in 2008 to develop an 
understanding about 'Special Status for Goa' . As usual it was immediately 
hijacked by an opportunistic politician. We then had some goans running 
around for signatures to be presented by this politician in Delhi. Who knows 
what happened?
We are not in the habit of imposing our ideas on others. We have a culture 
of developing an understanding through wider consultations. Since goans do 
not have the culture of sittting down to discuss and developing an 
understanding, they run after something that is thrown to them and get 
exploited.
If there are sincere, non-political party biased goans who would like to 
discuss the issue and arrive at an understanding we are always open.


-Soter 



Re: [Goanet] Goa's so called Freedom fighters & special status for Goa

2010-12-01 Thread George Pinto
--- On Wed, 12/1/10, soter  wrote:
 
> As for Special Status for Goa, i personally do not think
> that Goans know what they are aksing for. Politicians were
> quick to ask for special economic status. Some
> industrialists will ask for special industrial status. So
> Goans must confirm what is meant by 'Special Status' and not
> blindly jump on the bandwagon only to realise that some
> vested interests have benefited.


Hi Soter

Can you (time permitting) state what you believe Special Status should entail. 
This will give readers an idea, perhaps a blueprint to consider. 

George


Re: [Goanet] Goa's so called Freedom fighters & special status for Goa

2010-12-01 Thread soter
Forget the Freedom Fighters who are receiving dole. They are reduced to beggars 
before the government in liberated Goa. Goa can only count on those freedom 
fighters who have not been lured by the government's dole. They are the true 
freedom fighters but hardly a few are remaining.

As for Special Status for Goa, i personally do not think that Goans know what 
they are aksing for. Politicians were quick to ask for special economic status. 
Some industrialists will ask for special industrial status. So Goans must 
confirm what is meant by 'Special Status' and not blindly jump on the bandwagon 
only to realise that some vested interests have benefited. It should not turn 
out like the agitation to demand Konkani as official language and the last hour 
claim it must be only in the devanagiri script. Those who used Roman script 
Konkani and who selled the ranks at the agitations were fooled. 

There are enough vultures around to capitalise on any issue that can give them 
political mileage and power. 

-Soter