Re: [Goanet] Goans - Cooks n Butlers - Why are they not very entrepreneurial ?

2007-02-25 Thread Mario Goveia

  http://www.GOANET.org 


This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro

  If you would like to sponsor Goanet's operations contact:

  Herman Carneiro - [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--- CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mario,
 
 So is Nehru to blame why Goan Cooks and Butlers are
 not quite entrepreneurial with all their epicurean 
 skills like the Bhayya Bhelpuri wallahs from Uttar 
 Pradesh ? Why or Why not ? Or is it the fervent 
 Portuguese-Catholic culture among Goan Christaos -
 where entrepreneurial money making is frowned upon 
 and it is considered a sin to be a rich 
 entrepreneur (aka business man) !
 
Mario responds:

Carmo,
You certainly did not see any blame for Nehru in
anything I wrote with regard to those Goan cooks and
butlers who you say are not entrepreneurial - only for
the monumental waste and inefficiency and mounting
poverty of India's first 50 years since independence.

However, while your Bhayya Bhelpuriwallahs are
entrepreneurial by definition, some Goan cooks and
butlers are as well, and there are most Bhayyas are
not entrepreneurial and work as laborers.  Besides,
many of the Goans you deride may have been more
enterprising because they are to be found all over the
world making a better living for their families than
most of your jhopdi-existing, railway-line-urinating
and defecating, pavement-spitting,
public-electricity-robbing bhayya bhelpuriwallahs.

BTW, while on the subject of entrepreneurial Goans,
albeit not from the cook and butler category, while
visiting Goa recently, I was surprised to find that
most of the local Goans did not know who Mark
Fernandes
(the investment banker, not my cousin) or Francisco
DeSouza were, even though everyone knew who Victor
Menezes is, whose achievements in entrepreneurial
wealth creation in the US these Goan youngsters may
have surpassed now.




Re: [Goanet] Goans - Cooks n Butlers - Why are they not very entrepreneurial

2007-02-24 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil

* G * O * A * N * E * T  C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *

  Flat for Sale: Mapuca, Goa (Ansabhat) - 10 min walk to Mapuca Market
  2 Bedroom-Living-Dining-Kitchen-Bath-Balcony-Terrazo Floors
 Great Investment - Winter Getaway
  Asking Canadian $ 31,500/-  or  Indian Rs 10 lakhs

Contact Rosario Fernandes - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 20:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 From: CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans - Cooks n Butlers - Why are they not very
 entrepreneurial ?

 So is Nehru to blame why Goan Cooks and Butlers are not quite 
 entrepreneurial with all their epicurean skills like the Bhayya
 Bhelpuri 
 wallahs from Uttar Pradesh ? Why or Why not ? 

What a question, and coming from you of all people! The answer to this
(as to all problems of Goa) is quite simple. It is because the foolish
Goan people in their wilful unwisdom have not seen fit to anoint Manohar
Parrikar -- the magnificent, great, sensational, fantastic, superb,
unmatchable, etc. etc., who will go on to become PM of India and be the
most magnificent (etc. etc. same as above) PM India has ever had -- as
CM of Goa. Once they do that and get rid of all the GOAN GOON GAON CHORS
and Maharashtrawadi gantis etc. and bring in the IIT educated,
entrepreneurial, enterprising etc. etc. Manohar Parrikar, then Goans
will become heads of all the big hotel chains in the world, occupy all
seats in the IITs (oh, heaven) and Goa will wake into a new dawn!

Please correct any errors in the above, I may have missed out some
superlatives to describe the GREAT IIT-EDUCATED MAN and some expletives
to condemn those who don't think much of him. Am still trying to get
used to all this terminology and trend of thinking, never having been
much enamoured of the genres of fantasy (or horror) writing.

-- 
Question everything -- Karl Marx



Re: [Goanet] Goans - Cooks n Butlers - Why are they not very entrepreneurial ?

2007-02-23 Thread Samir Kelekar

* G * O * A * N * E * T  C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *

  Flat for Sale: Mapuca, Goa (Ansabhat) - 10 min walk to Mapuca Market
  2 Bedroom-Living-Dining-Kitchen-Bath-Balcony-Terrazo Floors
 Great Investment - Winter Getaway
  Asking Canadian $ 31,500/-  or  Indian Rs 10 lakhs

Contact Rosario Fernandes - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Goans have got left behind in all intellectual
endeavours.

In general, fear is gripping them more and more
and so they are becoming more and more religious.
The growing number of churches, temples etc reflects
that.

Also, they want easy money so they are out to sell
their land, and their mother land, which currently
fetches them good money. But I think this is not
goign to last for more than 10 to 20 years. The
politicians of course lead the fray in this sell
out.

For the next generation of Goans, prostitution and
pimping
unfortunately might be the only way to earn a
living.

regards,
Samir

--- CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mario,
 
 So is Nehru to blame why Goan Cooks and Butlers are
 not quite 
 entrepreneurial with all their epicurean skills like
 the Bhayya Bhelpuri 
 wallahs from Uttar Pradesh ? Why or Why not ? Or is
 it the fervent 
 Portuguese-Catholic culture among Goan Christaos -
 where entrepreneurial 
 money-making is frowned upon and it is considered a
 sin to be a rich 
 entrepreneur (aka business man) !
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Dr. Carmo D'Cruz
 Indian Harbour Beach, Florida
 
 
 From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],  
 goanet@goanet.org
 Subject: RE:  Goans - Cooks n Butlers
 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:43:40 -0800 (PST)
 
 While Jawarhalal Nehru must be acknowledged as a
 heroic freedom fighter 
 and one of India's founding fathers, he was an
 elitist Fabian socialist who 
 had the utmost contempt for private businesses and
 businessmen, which is 
 why India had to suffer 50 years of monumental
 waste and bureaucracy under 
 socialism and friendships with totalitarian
 communist regimes - while 
 preaching peace and non-violence - until the
 unassuming Manmohan Singh 
 began to turn this misguided
 ship around when he was Finance Minister about ten
 years ago.
  
 Mario
 
 
 



 

Cheap talk?
Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
http://voice.yahoo.com


Re: [Goanet] Goans - Cooks n Butlers - Why are they not very entrepreneurial ?

2007-02-22 Thread CARMO DCRUZ

* G * O * A * N * E * T  C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *

  Flat for Sale: Mapuca, Goa (Ansabhat) - 10 min walk to Mapuca Market
  2 Bedroom-Living-Dining-Kitchen-Bath-Balcony-Terrazo Floors
 Great Investment - Winter Getaway
  Asking Canadian $ 31,500/-  or  Indian Rs 10 lakhs

Contact Rosario Fernandes - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mario,

So is Nehru to blame why Goan Cooks and Butlers are not quite 
entrepreneurial with all their epicurean skills like the Bhayya Bhelpuri 
wallahs from Uttar Pradesh ? Why or Why not ? Or is it the fervent 
Portuguese-Catholic culture among Goan Christaos - where entrepreneurial 
money-making is frowned upon and it is considered a sin to be a rich 
entrepreneur (aka business man) !

Best Regards,

Dr. Carmo D'Cruz
Indian Harbour Beach, Florida


From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],  
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],  
goanet@goanet.org
Subject: RE:  Goans - Cooks n Butlers
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:43:40 -0800 (PST)

While Jawarhalal Nehru must be acknowledged as a heroic freedom fighter 
and one of India's founding fathers, he was an elitist Fabian socialist who 
had the utmost contempt for private businesses and businessmen, which is 
why India had to suffer 50 years of monumental waste and bureaucracy under 
socialism and friendships with totalitarian communist regimes - while 
preaching peace and non-violence - until the unassuming Manmohan Singh 
began to turn this misguided
ship around when he was Finance Minister about ten years ago.
 
Mario