Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Noroc, norom, nort, norti dudduancheo...

2011-05-14 Thread Frederick Noronha
Whoa, Gabe! Not so fast...

Two issues here:

(i) This dictionary is subject to copyright. A note on page vi reads: "All
rights reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a
retrival system or transmitted, in any form or by any means, electronic,
mechanical, photocopying, recording or otherwise, without the prior
permission of the publisher."

You are free to buy a copy in Goa though (mine costs Rs 120 here in Goa,
good price!)

(ii) Secondly, it's in Devanagari script. You don't expect me to take all
that daily flak for the way the words in Devanagari have been rendered into
Romi, do you? See what all is coming up when I merely type Romi into Romi
:-)

Hope all this debate would want to own a dictionary in Konkani. 1930, 2003,
2009 or whatever! Something is better than nothing. Debate is the best
teacher. FN

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On 14 May 2011 13:55, Gabe Menezes  wrote:

> > Mhaka borem dista Frederick baban adhunik (modern) kalachi Konknnicho
> vapor
> > korcho. Dictionary-chem nanv ditam:
> >  Rajhaums New Generation Konkani-English Illustrated Dictionary.
> > Borkar, Suresh J., Mukesh P. Thali & Damodar K. Ghanekar. 2004. Ponnjen
> > mellta.
> > Amkam,1930 modelachi Konknni naka.
>
>
> RESPONSE: Come on Frederick, get that new Dictionary - you did say if there
> was a newer one you would use it?


Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Noroc, norom, nort, norti dudduancheo...

2011-05-14 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 12 May 2011 13:23, lino dourado  wrote:
>
>
> COMMENTS
>
> Mhaka borem dista Frederick baban adhunik (modern) kalachi Konknnicho vapor
> korcho. Dictionary-chem nanv ditam:
>  Rajhaums New Generation Konkani-English Illustrated Dictionary.
> Borkar, Suresh J., Mukesh P. Thali & Damodar K. Ghanekar. 2004. Ponnjen
> mellta.
> Amkam,1930 modelachi Konknni naka.


RESPONSE: Come on Frederick, get that new Dictionary - you did say if there
was a newer one you would use it?


Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Noroc, norom, nort, norti dudduancheo...

2011-05-13 Thread Michael Pinto

Mogal Fred

That is very good you are publishing few at a time, so far I have seen 
only two e-mails, Have you published more?
 The phonetics are old and Fr. Naik may confirm them. Can you a get 
student as an apprentice to verify and publish it?


Michael



> Learn one (or more) Konkani word today:
>
> NOROC bad smell, stinking
>
> NOROM soft, tender
>
> NOROM CORUNC to soften, to modify


Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Noroc, norom, nort, norti dudduancheo...

2011-05-13 Thread ina antao

I did know the last three
Fr Julian Carrasco had started a Konkani coursebut he stopped!
that was my loss..
ina



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Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Noroc, norom, nort, norti dudduancheo...

2011-05-13 Thread Alfred de Tavares

NOU, NOÌ is, used to be a very household item in Goa of wood-fire days when
it (mostly of kondó-bamboo) was used to flare up/keep going the kitchen fires.

Any hollow tubes.

The most loved NOIS in Goa were the ones carried by our Tarvittis containing all
their shipping commission and other documents relevant to their work

Thei were very valuable as they were hereditary and/or if the tarvotti did noy 
have a son
interested in working aboard a ship, it could be bequethed to a chap of the 
tarvotti's choice.

Aanother instance of NOUì lovingly used in Concanim is: SUNNEACHI XEMPDDI NOUEN
GALLEAR KENADNS UBBI ZAINA.

Used for any tube but most ubiquitously a bamboo one. It served us all, when 
young brats,
as FOTFOTTI, to be loaded wit TEPLAN / fired off...often with dire results: 
Ninh re Domnic?
Udgas aha?

Alfred




> Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 05:00:16 -0700
> From: libado23...@yahoo.com
> To: goa...@goanet.org; goanet@lists.goanet.org
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Noroc, norom, nort, norti 
> dudduancheo...
> 
> 
> 
> Clifford Fernandes wrote:
> "NOU" DOESN'T MEAN "PIPE", IT MEANS "TAP"
> 
> Comments
> Udkachea PIPE-an udok naslear amchea ghorantle NOLL sodanch rite. 
> Lino
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Frederick Noronha
> 
> Learn one (or more) Konkani word today:
> 
  

Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Noroc, norom, nort, norti dudduancheo...

2011-05-12 Thread lino dourado
From: Anselmo Johny De Souza johnyans...@gmail.com : Wrote
Sir,

You are using 'C' in place of 'K'. It is not NOROC but NOROK

CORUNC is to be written- KORUNK

PODDUNC is to be written -PODDUNK

"C' was used for 'K' at the time of Portuguese. Konknni in Roman Script has 
improved much since then.

COMMENTS

Mhaka borem dista Frederick baban adhunik (modern) kalachi Konknnicho vapor 
korcho. Dictionary-chem nanv ditam:
 Rajhaums New Generation Konkani-English Illustrated Dictionary. 
Borkar, Suresh J., Mukesh P. Thali & Damodar K. Ghanekar. 2004. Ponnjen mellta.
Amkam,1930 modelachi Konknni naka.

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Frederick Noronha wrote:

Learn one (or more) Konkani word today:

NOROC bad smell, stinking

NOROM soft, tender




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Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Noroc, norom, nort, norti dudduancheo...

2011-05-12 Thread Frederick Noronha
You are right indeed! Show me an acceptable dictionary, preferably in
a copyright-free mode (or with publisher permission to reuse), and I
will immediately switch from the 1930 one. As of now, that's the most
convient one I have. FN

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On 12 May 2011 17:01, Anselmo Johny De Souza  wrote:
>
> Sir,
>
> You are using 'C' in place of 'K'. It is not NOROC but NOROK
>
> CORUNC is to be written- KORUNK
>
> PODDUNC is to be written -PODDUNK
>
> "C' was used for 'K' at the time of Portuguese. Konknni in Roman Script has 
> improved much since then.
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Frederick Noronha wrote:
>
> Learn one (or more) Konkani word today:
>
> NOROC bad smell, stinking
>
> NOROM soft, tender


Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Noroc, norom, nort, norti dudduancheo...

2011-05-12 Thread Frederick Noronha
Not sure whether we should see it as having "improved much" or just
changed :-) FN

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On 12 May 2011 17:01, Anselmo Johny De Souza  wrote:
> "C' was used for 'K' at the time of Portuguese. Konknni in Roman Script has
> improved much since then.


Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Noroc, norom, nort, norti dudduancheo...

2011-05-12 Thread lino dourado


Clifford Fernandes wrote:
"NOU" DOESN'T MEAN "PIPE", IT MEANS "TAP"

Comments
Udkachea PIPE-an udok naslear amchea ghorantle NOLL sodanch rite. 
Lino


-Original Message-
From: Frederick Noronha

Learn one (or more) Konkani word today:



Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Noroc, norom, nort, norti dudduancheo...

2011-05-12 Thread Therese Almeida

Much appreciated. Thank you.


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Frederick Noronha wrote:

Learn one (or more) Konkani word today:

NOROC bad smell, stinking

NOROM soft, tender


Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Noroc, norom, nort, norti dudduancheo...

2011-05-12 Thread Clifford Fernandes

"NOU" DOESN'T MEAN "PIPE", IT MEANS "TAP"


-Original Message-
From: Frederick Noronha

Learn one (or more) Konkani word today:



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Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Noroc, norom, nort, norti dudduancheo...

2011-05-12 Thread Anselmo Johny De Souza

Sir,

You are using 'C' in place of 'K'. It is not NOROC but NOROK

CORUNC is to be written- KORUNK

PODDUNC is to be written -PODDUNK

"C' was used for 'K' at the time of Portuguese. Konknni in Roman Script 
has improved much since then.



On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Frederick Noronha wrote:

Learn one (or more) Konkani word today:

NOROC bad smell, stinking

NOROM soft, tender




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