Re: [Goanet] Phony ID unmasked. Cedrico = Jamima

2009-09-01 Thread Seb dc

A job welldone!!

This is the actual Crab mentality that goans are most famous for. They won't 
do anything, and will not allow others do either. I was surprised to see 
Jamima's post on Goanet  now i know!!


Jamima has only told Goan brothers  not sister's Why:-)

I guess Arwin is doing wonderful...Please be there on 4th Sept. at St.Mary's 
church.


From: Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com

*UAE Goans Forum (Dubai Cell) Cordially Invites You:

*To an action oriented meeting related to Goa  Its Identity.

*Venue:* St. Mary's Church Rm no 6.above the Mini hall.
*Date:* Friday 4th Sept 2009,
*Timing:* 6:30 PM
*Agenda for the meeting:*
- Introduction
- Documentary on Goa *(prepared by Rajan Parrikar, California - USA)*
- Goa Identity presentation by Arwin Mesquita
- Agree on next course of action.

Please go to http://www.goamag.net/gim/ to register


From: Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Goanet] Phony ID unmasked.  Cedrico = Jamima
To Goanet -

The post quoted below was forwarded to me from Goanet.


It took me a few nanoseconds to figure out who the
skunk is hiding behind a phony ID.  It is our dimwitted
pal Cedrico Dacosta, whose ass I have had the pleasure
of rubbishing several times here on this very group.
I am delighted to note that his wounds haven't yet healed.

Jamima Dias first surfaced in Dec 2007 (this was before
I had kicked Cedrico's pustulated behind) and here he
has nothing but praise for me:

A huge word of praise for Rajan Parriker, Floriano, Minguel,
Wilma (Muscat), Gabe (UK), Cedrico (Dubai), J Cola, Joe Goa,
Aires Rodrigues.

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.culture.region.india.goa/66425/match=


But like Jamima the twit Cedrico also has the same spelling
preferences.  See for example Digamber -

http://tinyurl.com/nbb7gn


Or take the real clincher communial -

http://tinyurl.com/n2odwt


I could cite more, but you get the idea.

Next time, the donkey wants to pull off something like this,
better that he consult me first for some tips on how to partially
cover his digital pug marks.

First Satyawan Govekar.  Now Jamima.  Next.


From: Jamima Dias jamimaia...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Goanet] Dubai-AUH Goans Beware
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 12:43 PM



Dear Goan brothers in Dubai=AUH.
there is an attempt to further polarise the Goan community by
injecting bitter bile and poison your minds about Goa through
a campaign by raising panic among the Goans in Dubai and Auh.
Please do not fall prey to any malicious presentations through
photography being used to promote a hidden communial agenda
and try and target a secular democratically elected Goan government.
It is a shame that the Dubai church, or parish, overtly controlled
by the malyalam fathers will allow the small group of Goans
promoting the 'save Goa issue which is actually a front
supported by Goa's main opposition party the BJP through
photo campaigns and strong bitter words like loot and Rape.
Please avoid this and boycott such meetings and people.
A hard effort was made recently by the same fellows to
encroach into Goan communities in Oman. The perpetuator
of the documentary titled, rape of Goa was shunted out and
shown the door as all in Oman are aware of his communial
linkage with top anti minority parties in Goa.

Please be careful my dear fellow Goans in the Gulf.

Kind regards
Jamima







Re: [Goanet] Phony ID unmasked. Cedrico = Jamima

2009-09-01 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या
Dear all: Using a pseudonym to target someone else can sometimes be
problematic or troublesome. (I say *sometimes* because, at other
times, there could well be a reason for it. There was a big debate
elsewhere in cyberspace not long ago about the now-inactive
penpricks.blogspot.com anonymous-except-towards-the-end blog on Goan
journalism.)

A couple of points I'd like to add:

* This is not the only critique of Rajan Parrikar's Rape of Goa, and
not all are anonymous. While Rajan responds here by attacking the
anonymity, there are other crucial (in my view) issues raised by the
other RP bete noir Jason Keith Fernandes here:
http://dervishnotes.blogspot.com/2008/06/rape-of-goaas-tool-to-save-goa.html

QUOTE

‘The Rape of Goa’ is filled not only with multiple images of violences
being visited on Goa and Goans, it is also filled with captions that
provoke the viewer. In this slick production, music lends itself to
the captions presented to the viewer. These captions by and large
point out that the ‘developments’ in Goa are by outsiders and for
outsiders, in connivance with a bunch of politicians, builders and
miners. Overcome with the visuals being presented, one of the viewers
at the Hotel Mandovi, was forced to cry out “Ye soglen Ghanti!” (All
these Ghatties!). This is exactly the kind of response that ‘The Rape
of Goa’ is expected to draw. The documentary seeks to provoke you, and
then push you into a series of actions based on that provocation.

UNQUOTE

and also

QUOTE:

Goa has seen numerous movements in the past, one of which was the
Konkani language agitation that similarly created the enemy in the
shape of Marathi. This image of the enemy was mobilized the masses,
who were eventually let down. The goodies of state recognition were
gathered by elite groups, and those reliant on the Roman script were
left out, as their accent and script was deemed less that proper. In
this context then, we must perhaps contemplate if what we had were not
mass movements but mob movements? Mobs that were created, and
carefully manipulated by those at the helm of power? The common person
is not served by such mobilizations, only elite groups are, and in the
present mobilization we should strive hard to stay away from such
tendencies.

UNQUOTE

There are indeed issues worth discussing more closely here.

At another level, I know that Rajan Parrikar also once accused me of
writing a (badly penned, I would say) article under the name of
Someone Waghmare. This article was a boorish defence of the right to
in-migrate into Goa. (While I do believe that migrants into Goa should
have their rights too, I do not agree that just about any silly
arguments should be used to debate this. Using poor arguments and
badly-crafted ones could actually be counterproductive and cause more
trouble than anything else to an already largely disempowered section
of the population.)

Partly out of pique and as a strategy, I consciously kept silent for
awhile, and let Rajan repeat his charges, which he did publicly though
covering it with a laugh at Cafe Prakash too. On being challenged a
bit later, he simply pointed to the charge as having emanated from a
common friend, Soter! This is hardly a defence, as there is no reason
to even repeat false accusations.

But after repeating the charge a few more times, I'm sure these guys
still sometimes believe I'm the 'Waghmare' behind the article! So much
for pseudonyms! FN

2009/8/31 Benedict Lobo goa...@yahoo.co.in:
 Looks like a job well done by Parrrikar.
 If not,, Jamima (if that is your real name) is free
 to call me on 050-6746091and who knows you
 might actually convince us.Whoever you are, as a  ...

 From: Jamima Dias jamimaia...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Goanet] Dubai-AUH Goans Beware
Dear Goan brothers in Dubai=AUH.
there is an attempt to further polarise the Goan community by
injecting bitter bile and poison your minds about Goa through
a campaign by raising panic among the Goans in Dubai and Auh.
Please do not fall prey to any malicious presentations through
photography being used to promote a hidden communial agenda
and try and target a secular democratically elected Goan government.
It is a shame that the Dubai church, or parish, overtly controlled
by the malyalam fathers will allow the small group of Goans
promoting the 'save Goa issue which is actually a front
supported by Goa's main opposition party the BJP through
photo campaigns and strong bitter words like loot and Rape.
Please avoid this and boycott such meetings and people.
A hard effort was made recently by the same fellows to
encroach into Goan communities in Oman. The perpetuator
of the documentary titled, rape of Goa was shunted out and
shown the door as all in Oman are aware of his communial
linkage with top anti minority parties in Goa.

Please be careful my dear fellow Goans in the Gulf.

Kind regards
Jamima

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