Re: [Goanet] Request made under RTI - FYI

2009-05-13 Thread Tony de Sa
3: I cannot envisage (perhaps you can) a situation where a Goan is
picked from somewhere and asked to head a (say) Police force in (say)
the Punjab - unless the local chaps have been tried, the situation is
getting too hot to handle and there is a Goan elsewhere to do the job
(which no local really wants to do).

Julio Ribeiro, who is as Goan as a Goan can be was hand picked to head the
Police Force in precisely the same state, Punjab when the Akali's made it
too hot for the locals to handle ;-)

So now you can envisage.


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Re: [Goanet] Request made under RTI --- FYI

2009-05-13 Thread floriano

Well said that, Samir.

Let me endorse what you have said below with a live example.

Many years ago I was privy to the chat our handy-man was having with my mom 
doing some chores in the compound.
The gist of the chat was that this guy (young boy) had paid Rs.5000/- to an 
agent out of total Rs. 10,000/- to go to Dubai. But the promised  Rs.5000/- 
balance was not forthcoming from a certain village lady who seemed to have 
backed out and put the young boy in a lurch after giving him tall assurances 
and getting her work done.


That night, I asked my mom what Madhu's problem was and she related to me 
the sorry tale. Please help the boy she pleaded with me.  I said, go ahead 
and tell Madhu he is on. My mom was overjoyed.


Madhu went to Dubai, came home once, very prosperous. He came home the 
second time and never went back. He was back to plucking mangoes, coconuts 
any odd jobs, painting, white-washing, what have you. Today, he is doing 
better than a Dubaikar where he was  working for a stevedoring company 
loading/unloading ships, a back breaking job, and getting half as much what 
he is getting here. And the best thing is that Madhu is in heavy demand. He 
gives appointments. Presently he is painting a bungalow in Carona/Aldona for 
me on daily wages for almost a month now. He wouldn't normally commit 
himself for that long with others, but it shows that he is grateful for a 
favour once done. And my mom never get a 'no' from Madhu.


floriano
gsrp



- Original Message - 
From: Samir Kelekar samir_kele...@yahoo.com

To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Request made under RTI --- FYI


Goans would prefer to go to
Dubai and do a job, rather than be an entreprenuer and slog it out in
Goa. That is fine, but then why complain ?

regards,
Samir




Re: [Goanet] Request made under RTI - FYI (floriano)

2009-05-12 Thread J. Colaco jc
Dear Augusto

You are right about one thing: The Moidekar (i.e. you) needs to sigh, for true.

For one, I do not know How it can be In fact and probably at the
same time. But then, English is not my first language. I just might
not know.

Secondly, it is possible that you have either not read clearly what
jc's line of thinking is .or may not have comprehended it in the
first place.

Just  for your info, the following is jc's line of thinking on the
matter at hand:

1: If you want a place and/or institution to develop and progress
satisfactorily, get the best possible person to head it. Ideally, it
will be a person who knows the topography and culture of the place,
and not someone who is parachuted into the post de novo.

2: Go through the vetting process to get progressive thinkers and
hard-workers, and not just lackeys or friends of the family.

3: I cannot envisage (perhaps you can) a situation where a Goan is
picked from somewhere and asked to head a (say) Police force in (say)
the Punjab - unless the local chaps have been tried, the situation is
getting too hot to handle and there is a Goan elsewhere to do the job
(which no local really wants to do).

That is my 'line of thinking' - and you are free to criticise my
position. Perhaps, you have a better 'line of thinking'. Place it here
for all and sundry to see. Instead of just coming out of the wood-work
and saying something without corroboration.

I will add three points here for the record:

a: Floriano Lobo is someone I consider my friend. He is not always
right - but he remains my friend.

b: I do not know what intra-Moira politics you guys have .I really
do not believe I should care - if you have such politics. As far as I
am concerned Floriano is and remains my friend.

c: I am not sure HOW the GoaNet moderators allowed your post through
when you cross-posted it to another list. I am not sure if this was
oversight or just over-slight.  I will NOT cross post this msg to GX.
However, as you have sent it to GX .if it appears there I will
post this response on GX

nuff said

jc

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augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com wrote:

And in fact there have probably been as many non-Goans who have done
good as there have been Goans who have done bad.

Don't fall for jc's line of thinking.

Sigh - Moidekar te Moidekar. Sigh.