[go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Gregory Graham]

Okay, while some of us are reminiscing about ed, here is my story. When I 
first used Unix in 1980, I learned vi, and that was my primary editor for 
many years. However, I learned about ed and found it to be useful in the 
days before windowing systems. When I would get a compile error, I 
sometimes liked to make the correction using ed because it didn't blank the 
screen, and I could make the correction before the compiler output scrolled 
off the top of the screen. Every now and then, I do a quick edit with ed 
just to show myself I can still do it. In fact, I just did a little Go 
editing with ed, and although it worked, I like Sublime Text much better.

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[go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Serge Voilokov]

Thanks for pointing out. I have updated the README: 
https://github.com/serge-v/micro/blob/master/README.md#fork-changes

On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 10:25:41 AM UTC-5, Mandolyte wrote:
>
> Hmmm, couldn't we follow directions to build from zyedidia, substituting 
> your repo as needed? If so, have you documented anywhere how to use your 
> extensions? I didn't notice any mods to the README.
>
> Cheers!
>
> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 4:57:05 PM UTC-5, Serge Voilokov wrote:
>>
>> I am using micro editor: https://github.com/zyedidia/micro . It is 
>> terminal-based, supports mouse, uses ctrl+zxcv and shift+arrows for text 
>> manipulation, has a multi cursor feature, syntax highlighting.
>> Written in golang. Easy to configure and change.
>> I am using my fork (https://github.com/serge-v/micro) with added 
>> features for golang development: go to decls, go imports, go install, go 
>> complete, etc.
>>
>>

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[go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Mandolyte]

Hmmm, couldn't we follow directions to build from zyedidia, substituting 
your repo as needed? If so, have you documented anywhere how to use your 
extensions? I didn't notice any mods to the README.

Cheers!

On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 4:57:05 PM UTC-5, Serge Voilokov wrote:
>
> I am using micro editor: https://github.com/zyedidia/micro . It is 
> terminal-based, supports mouse, uses ctrl+zxcv and shift+arrows for text 
> manipulation, has a multi cursor feature, syntax highlighting.
> Written in golang. Easy to configure and change.
> I am using my fork (https://github.com/serge-v/micro) with added features 
> for golang development: go to decls, go imports, go install, go complete, 
> etc.
>
>

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Re: [go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Tong Sun]

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 11:40 AM Serge Voilokov wrote:

>
> No, no plans to PR for a while since I implemented the features directly
> in the source tree.
> I need to think how to wrap them as plugins for dynamic download.
>

What you believe can benefit yourself can surely benefit the Go community
as a whole.
I do hope you'll find your way to contribute your efforts back to the Go
community. thx.

At very least, since micro is programmed in Go, having Go features directly
in the source tree might not be an unacceptable way, :-)

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[go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Jeremiah James]

A vote for Goland from me.

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Re: [go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Jay Ts]

Hi Rob,

Thanks for the link to that talk. I had many of the same early experiences, 
including using an IBM keypunch and interacting with an IBM 360 
(programming in APL) over a modem line.

My first programming job was in 1981 on a VAX11/780 running UNIX/32V (with 
7th edition manuals) in the Caltech High Energy Physics Department. ed 
wasn't just the *standard* text editor, it was the *only* text editor, so I 
used it a a lot!

When I got an account on the Computer Science Department's BSD 4.1 system 
months later, I learned to use vi immediately, and loved it. It was a huge 
upgrade from ed. It was really helpful that I had already learned to use 
ed, since the commands are all available within vi. Since then, I've never 
found any other editor that felt like an upgrade. Nowadays I use vim 
because there are a few nice things about it that aren't in vi. At least, 
vim is ok after you turn off syntax highlighting and all the other newbie 
crutches. :-P Seriously, how many people can't read or write in English (or 
their native language) if the verbs, nouns, and prepositions are the same 
color? I don't get it.

About early mice: Later in 1981, I was working for the Computer Science 
Department on a software development project in semiconductor design. We 
had custom-made 512x512 pixel color raster graphics terminals with 3-button 
mice. I think the mice were made by a graduate student or something like 
that. They used a steel ball bearing rolling against steel rods, so they 
slipped a lot. So that's another early appearance of mice.

On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 4:32:22 PM UTC-7, Rob 'Commander' Pike 
wrote:
>
> And 15 years later, so one hopes for an improvement.
>
> The thing people ignore, or perhaps just don't know, about ed was that it 
> was a breath of fresh air compared to all the commercial editors available 
> at time. People judge it by the standards of today; by the standards of the 
> time it was created, it was mind-expanding.
>
> I spoke about this some in my recent personal story of Unix history: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=226=_2NI6t2r_Hs
>
> -rob
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 7:58 AM Dave MacFarlane  > wrote:
>
>> But sam is a pretty solid improvement over ed.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 6:04 PM Rob Pike > 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ed is the standard text editor.
>> >
>> > -rob
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 8:15 AM > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Another vote for VS Code. I'm a hobbyist and have tried lots of 
>> editors.
>> >>
>> >> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:52:11 PM UTC-7, Pat Farrell wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old 
>> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of 
>> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>> >>>
>> >>> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can 
>> complete function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
>> >>
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Re: [go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Nathan Fisher]

Agree on this. Gorename and gofmt etc provide only a small subset of what
is on GoLands roadmap. I toggle between vs code, vim(-go), and GoLand.
There’s bits I like about all 3 but if I had to choose only one I’d
probably go with GoLand.

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 20:24, robert engels  wrote:

> I used both VSCode and Intellij/GoLand. I suggest Intellij/GoLand for
> anything but trivial projects. The refactoring and navigation tools are far
> superior to those available in VS code, and it makes working in larger
> projects with lots of dependencies far easier IMO.
>
>
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:15 PM, buc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> Another vote for VS Code. I'm a hobbyist and have tried lots of editors.
>
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:52:11 PM UTC-7, Pat Farrell wrote:
>>
>> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old
>> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of
>> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>>
>> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete
>> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
>>
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[go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Serge Voilokov]

Tong,
No, no plans to PR for a while since I implemented the features directly in 
the source tree.
I need to think how to wrap them as plugins for dynamic download. 

On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 10:41:47 PM UTC-5, Tong Sun wrote:
>
> Nice added features Serge. 
>
> Any plan to PR them back, or you'd rather keep your fork to your self? 
> Thx. 
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 4:57:05 PM UTC-5, Serge Voilokov wrote:
>>
>> I am using micro editor: https://github.com/zyedidia/micro . It is 
>> terminal-based, supports mouse, uses ctrl+zxcv and shift+arrows for text 
>> manipulation, has a multi cursor feature, syntax highlighting.
>> Written in golang. Easy to configure and change.
>> I am using my fork (https://github.com/serge-v/micro) with added 
>> features for golang development: go to decls, go imports, go install, go 
>> complete, etc.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 3:52:11 PM UTC-5, Pat Farrell wrote:
>>>
>>> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old 
>>> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of 
>>> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>>>
>>> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete 
>>> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
>>>
>>

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[go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Tong Sun]

Nice added features Serge. 

Any plan to PR them back, or you'd rather keep your fork to your self? Thx. 


On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 4:57:05 PM UTC-5, Serge Voilokov wrote:
>
> I am using micro editor: https://github.com/zyedidia/micro . It is 
> terminal-based, supports mouse, uses ctrl+zxcv and shift+arrows for text 
> manipulation, has a multi cursor feature, syntax highlighting.
> Written in golang. Easy to configure and change.
> I am using my fork (https://github.com/serge-v/micro) with added features 
> for golang development: go to decls, go imports, go install, go complete, 
> etc.
>
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 3:52:11 PM UTC-5, Pat Farrell wrote:
>>
>> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old 
>> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of 
>> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>>
>> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete 
>> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
>>
>

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Re: [go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Rob Pike]

And 15 years later, so one hopes for an improvement.

The thing people ignore, or perhaps just don't know, about ed was that it
was a breath of fresh air compared to all the commercial editors available
at time. People judge it by the standards of today; by the standards of the
time it was created, it was mind-expanding.

I spoke about this some in my recent personal story of Unix history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=226=_2NI6t2r_Hs

-rob


On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 7:58 AM Dave MacFarlane  wrote:

> But sam is a pretty solid improvement over ed.
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 6:04 PM Rob Pike  wrote:
> >
> > Ed is the standard text editor.
> >
> > -rob
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 8:15 AM  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Another vote for VS Code. I'm a hobbyist and have tried lots of editors.
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:52:11 PM UTC-7, Pat Farrell wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old
> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of
> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
> >>>
> >>> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete
> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
> >>
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Re: [go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Dave MacFarlane]

But sam is a pretty solid improvement over ed.

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 6:04 PM Rob Pike  wrote:
>
> Ed is the standard text editor.
>
> -rob
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 8:15 AM  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Another vote for VS Code. I'm a hobbyist and have tried lots of editors.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:52:11 PM UTC-7, Pat Farrell wrote:
>>>
>>> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old 
>>> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of 
>>> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>>>
>>> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete 
>>> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
>>
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Re: [go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Rob Pike]

http://man.cat-v.org/unix-6th/1/ed

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 12:48 AM Anirudh Vyas  wrote:

> Could never get this one - Ed is the standard editor, is there a
> historical context of this? Did people say this a lot back when there were
> vim emacs and Ed only as choices of editors?
> On Nov 22, 2018, 05:28 -0800, Volker Dobler ,
> wrote:
>
> As emacs has not been recommended yet: Emacs!
>
> V.
>
> On Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:52:11 UTC+1, Pat Farrell wrote:
>>
>> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old
>> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of
>> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>>
>> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete
>> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
>>
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Re: [go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Amnon Baron Cohen]

https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html

On Thursday, 22 November 2018 13:49:09 UTC, Anirudh Vyas wrote:
>
> Could never get this one - Ed is the standard editor, is there a 
> historical context of this? Did people say this a lot back when there were 
> vim emacs and Ed only as choices of editors? 
> On Nov 22, 2018, 05:28 -0800, Volker Dobler  >, wrote:
>
> As emacs has not been recommended yet: Emacs! 
>
> V.
>
> On Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:52:11 UTC+1, Pat Farrell wrote: 
>>
>> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old 
>> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of 
>> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>>
>> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete 
>> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
>>
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Re: [go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Anirudh Vyas]

Could never get this one - Ed is the standard editor, is there a historical 
context of this? Did people say this a lot back when there were vim emacs and 
Ed only as choices of editors?
On Nov 22, 2018, 05:28 -0800, Volker Dobler , wrote:
> As emacs has not been recommended yet: Emacs!
>
> V.
>
> On Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:52:11 UTC+1, Pat Farrell wrote:
> > I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old 
> > programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of 
> > whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
> >
> > What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete 
> > function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
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[go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Volker Dobler]

As emacs has not been recommended yet: Emacs!

V.

On Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:52:11 UTC+1, Pat Farrell wrote:
>
> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old 
> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of 
> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>
> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete 
> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
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[go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[hay]

LiteIDE here. https://github.com/visualfc/liteide

On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 12:52:11 AM UTC+4, Pat Farrell wrote:
>
> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old 
> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of 
> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>
> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete 
> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
>

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[go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Serge Voilokov]

I am using micro editor: https://github.com/zyedidia/micro . It is 
terminal-based, supports mouse, uses ctrl+zxcv and shift+arrows for text 
manipulation, has a multi cursor feature, syntax highlighting.
Written in golang. Easy to configure and change.
I am using my fork (https://github.com/serge-v/micro) with added features 
for golang development: go to decls, go imports, go install, go complete, 
etc.

On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 3:52:11 PM UTC-5, Pat Farrell wrote:
>
> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old 
> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of 
> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>
> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete 
> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
>

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[go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Alex Dvoretskiy]

If you using vim: https://github.com/fatih/vim-go

On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 12:52:11 PM UTC-8, Pat Farrell wrote:
>
> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old 
> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of 
> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>
> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete 
> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
>

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Re: [go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Justin Israel]

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018, 12:37 PM  wrote:

> I recommend Sublime Text with the GoSublime
>  addon package. There's a free
> trial for Sublime Text .
>

I started with this, and have also tried AnacondaGo for Sublime, but went
back to GoSublime. Now I use a combination of Goland for existing projects
(most the time) and Sublime when I need to quickly edit something
(infrequent) .


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[go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[fredistic]

I recommend Sublime Text with the GoSublime 
 addon package. There's a free 
trial for Sublime Text .


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Re: [go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[robert engels]

I used both VSCode and Intellij/GoLand. I suggest Intellij/GoLand for anything 
but trivial projects. The refactoring and navigation tools are far superior to 
those available in VS code, and it makes working in larger projects with lots 
of dependencies far easier IMO.

> On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:15 PM, buc...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Another vote for VS Code. I'm a hobbyist and have tried lots of editors.
> 
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:52:11 PM UTC-7, Pat Farrell wrote:
> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old 
> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of 
> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
> 
> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete 
> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
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Re: [go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[Rob Pike]

Ed is the standard text editor.

-rob


On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 8:15 AM  wrote:

>
> Another vote for VS Code. I'm a hobbyist and have tried lots of editors.
>
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:52:11 PM UTC-7, Pat Farrell wrote:
>>
>> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old
>> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of
>> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>>
>> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete
>> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
>>
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[go-nuts] Re: go language sensitive editor?

[bucarr]

Another vote for VS Code. I'm a hobbyist and have tried lots of editors.

On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:52:11 PM UTC-7, Pat Farrell wrote:
>
> I know, this is both a FAQ and an unanswerable question. I'm an old 
> programmer who has used nearly every editor known to man. I am not a fan of 
> whole-universe IDEs, but can use them. I also speak vi/vim pretty fluently.
>
> What editors do folks use for go? I'd like something that can complete 
> function names, understand imports, and give some assistance.
>

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