RE: [google-appengine] GAE Go-Python/Java hybrid application?

2012-01-12 Thread Brandon Wirtz
You can have Go.Yourapp.appspot.com and Python.yourapp.appspot.com and they
can share a datastore, but they have to talk to each other via requests, or
via the datastore.



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[mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ThePiachu
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:33 PM
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Subject: [google-appengine] GAE Go-Python/Java hybrid application?

Can one write a hybrid Go-Python/Java application and run it on Google App
Engine as one application, or do they need to be split into two apps and
communicate with each other through HTTP calls? Is there any tutorial or
example on something like this being done?

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[google-appengine] GAE Go-Python/Java hybrid application?

2012-01-12 Thread ThePiachu
Can one write a hybrid Go-Python/Java application and run it on Google
App Engine as one application, or do they need to be split into two
apps and communicate with each other through HTTP calls? Is there any
tutorial or example on something like this being done?

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RE: [google-appengine] Data schema for showing a user 5 random questions they haven't already answered?

2012-01-12 Thread Brandon Wirtz
1 Query for all answered Items
Then calculate 5 to answer.
 
I don't see any other way to do it.  You can't query for "Not" X and get
randoms.  You are going to have to pick 5 ids.
You should assign a key an increment I mean if you want to pick from a list.
Each question needs an ID.
 
From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
[mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DurhamG
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:37 PM
To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Data schema for showing a user 5 random
questions they haven't already answered?
 
This is an app engine group so I thought it was obvious I was asking how to
format my data to deal with the limitations imposed by the app engine
datastore, not how to solve the problem in general.  I don't believe app
engine assigns id's going from 1 to N, so I don't think I could use that as
my range anyways.  I could assign my own id that fits the range, but if
multiple questions are added at the same time I risk adding two items with
the same id.  Not to mention potentially having to deal with deleted
questions.  That approach seems very un-appengine like and ideally it'd be
nice to do it in one query for 5 items instead of 5 queries for 1 item each.
 
Thanks anyways though.
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Re: [google-appengine] Data schema for showing a user 5 random questions they haven't already answered?

2012-01-12 Thread DurhamG
This is an app engine group so I thought it was obvious I was asking how to 
format my data to deal with the limitations imposed by the app engine 
datastore, not how to solve the problem in general.  I don't believe app 
engine assigns id's going from 1 to N, so I don't think I could use that as 
my range anyways.  I could assign my own id that fits the range, but if 
multiple questions are added at the same time I risk adding two items with 
the same id.  Not to mention potentially having to deal with deleted 
questions.  That approach seems very un-appengine like and ideally it'd be 
nice to do it in one query for 5 items instead of 5 queries for 1 item each.

Thanks anyways though.

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[google-appengine] Re: Why so many request from the ip 0.1.0.2, UA is AppEngine-Google; ( http://code.google.com/appengine)

2012-01-12 Thread GUI
That's right. Thanks.

But I don't know where it comes from, I didn't configure task queue. I
will check it.

On Jan 12, 5:57 am, "Ikai Lan (Google)"  wrote:
> This looks like the task queue:
>
> queue_name=default task_name=10736216642065424608
> instance=00c61b117c8310e1830b9cd7194d6945daece0
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>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:37 PM, GUI  wrote:
> > These request like this:
>
> > 0.1.0.2 - - [10/Jan/2012:18:23:10 -0800] "POST /admin/do/
> > trackback_ping HTTP/1.1" 302 459 "http://www.makenotes.net/rpc";
> > "AppEngine-Google; (+http://code.google.com/appengine)"
> > "www.makenotes.net" ms=8 cpu_ms=0 api_cpu_ms=0 cpm_usd=0.000160
> > queue_name=default task_name=10736216642065424608
> > instance=00c61b117c8310e1830b9cd7194d6945daece0
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> > These reques almost exhaust my free quota, how to ban these requests?
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RE: [google-appengine] Data schema for showing a user 5 random questions they haven't already answered?

2012-01-12 Thread Brandon Wirtz
For real you aren't just getting us to do your homework?  This is a very
common question in Comp Sci Classes.
 
Just in case this is just logic in a mish mash of PHP, python, and java
syntax J
 
$RandomNumberOne = RND(1,100)  // we have lots of questions
 
Array($AnsweredQustions) = Query
 
While ( $RandomNumberOne iscontainedin $AnsweredQustions )
{
$RandomNumberOne++
}
 
Fetch_QuestionByID($RandomNumberOne)
 
///
 
If you need it to be more random take the random number and pick a number
half way between it and the max rather than just incrementing.
 
 
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[mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DurhamG
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:36 PM
To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
Subject: [google-appengine] Data schema for showing a user 5 random
questions they haven't already answered?
 
I've been trying to figure this one out for a few hours now:
 
I have an ever growing table of questions, and an ever growing table of
users.  For a given user, I would like to query for 5 random questions that
they have not already answered.  What kind of model schema would allow this?
 
I've seen how to query for N (semi)random entities
  (which uses a > query filter), and I've seen
the presentation
 on how to do microblogging style schemas (which uses = on lists as a
query filter), which together might allow me to query for '5 random
questions the user has already answered'.  To do the opposite though would
require > and != on different properties which isn't allowed.
 
The best I can come up with so far is to keep a list of the answered
questions on the user entity, then query for batches of random questions
until I find 5 which aren't in their list.  This assumes the number of
questions answered by a single user remains under 5000 (the list size limit
if I recall) and that there are more unanswered questions than answered ones
for any given user (so that I don't have to pull too many batches in looking
for questions).  These limitations might be reasonable, but this approach
still seems less than optimal.
 
Any ideas on how to accomplish this?
 
 
Someone asked this question a couple years ago with no response
 , so I'm hoping some changes have occurred in the mean time to make
this possible.
 
Thanks!
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[google-appengine] Data schema for showing a user 5 random questions they haven't already answered?

2012-01-12 Thread DurhamG
I've been trying to figure this one out for a few hours now:

I have an ever growing table of questions, and an ever growing table of 
users.  For a given user, I would like to query for 5 random questions that 
they have not already answered.  What kind of model schema would allow this?

I've seen how to query for N (semi)random 
entities
 (which 
uses a > query filter), and I've seen the presentation 
on
 
how to do microblogging style schemas (which uses = on lists as a query 
filter), which together might allow me to query for '5 random questions the 
user *has* already answered'.  To do the opposite though would require > 
and != on different properties which isn't allowed.

The best I can come up with so far is to keep a list of the answered 
questions on the user entity, then query for batches of random questions 
until I find 5 which aren't in their list.  This assumes the number of 
questions answered by a single user remains under 5000 (the list size limit 
if I recall) and that there are more unanswered questions than answered 
ones for any given user (so that I don't have to pull too many batches in 
looking for questions).  These limitations might be reasonable, but this 
approach still seems less than optimal.

Any ideas on how to accomplish this?


Someone asked this question a couple years ago with no 
response,
 
so I'm hoping some changes have occurred in the mean time to make this 
possible.

Thanks!

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Re: [google-appengine] Using data migration tool for production bug reproduction

2012-01-12 Thread Alfred Fuller
We currently have no plans to expand the feature set of the migration tool
to fit alternative use cases.

That being said, the "datastore admin" page does provide a copy to app
feature that should come close to meeting the needs of your use case. You
can also use datastore triggers (
http://code.google.com/p/appengine-afterburner/) to perform the sync step.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Jason Collins wrote:

> We are doing consulting work with a client that is new to App Engine.
> One of their questions is if there is a way to replicate the
> production data so that they can reproduce and diagnose a bug. This is
> a practise that they commonly use on their legacy, relational
> databases to find bugs that are not due to application logic, but are
> due to a particular dataset.
>
> The HRD migration tool provides a nice way to push production data to
> a different application and then perform "catch-up" migrations to keep
> it up-to-date. However, it doesn't seem like it's possible to use this
> tool with an HRD source application.
>
> Is there any possibility that this tool could be made available to
> support this use case? It is much more efficient than pulling all the
> data down from source and pushing it back up to destination.
>
> Thoughts?
> j
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[google-appengine] Re: Cost of mapreduce was $6,500 to update a ListProperty on 14.1 million entities

2012-01-12 Thread Corey
Ikai Lan, any suggestions or are we just SOL?

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Minor update to Java SDK: 1.6.1.1

2012-01-12 Thread Amy Unruh
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM, jon  wrote:

> Does this bug only affect 1.6.1?
>

Yes, only 1.6.1.

 -Amy


>
> On Jan 12, 2:21 pm, James Broberg  wrote:
> > Great. Can the new SDK get pushed to the maven repo promptly also?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > James
> >
> > On 12 January 2012 12:21, Ikai Lan (Google)  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hey everyone,
> >
> > > There's a new version of the Java SDK available for download. You can
> get it
> > > here:
> >
> > >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/detail?name=appeng.
> ..
> >
> > > It's a minor version bump. We had to address an issue with the Java
> SDK that
> > > was causing CSS files to upload with an empty mime-type, breaking CSS
> > > rendering in many browsers. The official App Engine download page will
> be
> > > updated shortly.
> >
> > > We recommend that anyone developing Java apps using SDK version 1.6.1
> > > upgrade to this version. I want to thank everyone who helps us nail
> this
> > > bug, namely, Jon, Brandon, Raffaele, Pieter and James. If I missed
> your name
> > > I apologize! Every bit of information was helpful.
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[google-appengine] Re: Minor update to Java SDK: 1.6.1.1

2012-01-12 Thread jon
Does this bug only affect 1.6.1?

On Jan 12, 2:21 pm, James Broberg  wrote:
> Great. Can the new SDK get pushed to the maven repo promptly also?
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
> On 12 January 2012 12:21, Ikai Lan (Google)  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey everyone,
>
> > There's a new version of the Java SDK available for download. You can get it
> > here:
>
> >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/detail?name=appeng...
>
> > It's a minor version bump. We had to address an issue with the Java SDK that
> > was causing CSS files to upload with an empty mime-type, breaking CSS
> > rendering in many browsers. The official App Engine download page will be
> > updated shortly.
>
> > We recommend that anyone developing Java apps using SDK version 1.6.1
> > upgrade to this version. I want to thank everyone who helps us nail this
> > bug, namely, Jon, Brandon, Raffaele, Pieter and James. If I missed your name
> > I apologize! Every bit of information was helpful.
>
> > --
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> > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
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[google-appengine] Re: Recurring DeadlineExceededError when loading instances..

2012-01-12 Thread Klaas Pieter Annema
My app was running fine for a while, but has gone back to throwing very 
frequent DeadlineExceededErrors. Unsure if it's related but I *think *it 
started after I deployed a new version of my app. I have since reverted to 
the older version but it didn't resolve the error.

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[google-appengine] Using data migration tool for production bug reproduction

2012-01-12 Thread Jason Collins
We are doing consulting work with a client that is new to App Engine.
One of their questions is if there is a way to replicate the
production data so that they can reproduce and diagnose a bug. This is
a practise that they commonly use on their legacy, relational
databases to find bugs that are not due to application logic, but are
due to a particular dataset.

The HRD migration tool provides a nice way to push production data to
a different application and then perform "catch-up" migrations to keep
it up-to-date. However, it doesn't seem like it's possible to use this
tool with an HRD source application.

Is there any possibility that this tool could be made available to
support this use case? It is much more efficient than pulling all the
data down from source and pushing it back up to destination.

Thoughts?
j

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[google-appengine] Re: Errors

2012-01-12 Thread Stephen Lewis
Hi

The 405 status code means 'Method Not Allowed' [0]. It looks like someone 
(or something) is making a HEAD request to '/', and your app isn't set up 
to handle HEAD requests.

To answer your second question: you can get rid of the errors by adding a 
handler for these requests.

Stephen

[0] http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html#sec10.4.6

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[google-appengine] Re: Increase convert API

2012-01-12 Thread Timofey Koolin
up

2012/1/9 Timofey Koolin 

> I try convert API for convert incoming email from HTML to Text - it is
> perfectly, but I have about 1-2 thousand email per day. Is any way to
> increase quota for it?
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[google-appengine] Re: deploy only static files

2012-01-12 Thread Jeff Morgan
Yes, it would be nice if we could deploy a version, e.g. "static", such 
that the files deployed in static.myapp.appsot.com where accessible by any 
version of myapp.appspot.com. This may also be an easier way to specify 
static content (in addition to appengine-web.xml .)

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[google-appengine] Handling GAE BlobStore Exception via webapp2 handler

2012-01-12 Thread mozart27
I have been banging my head around on this issue for a bit and have
not come up with a solution. I am attempting to trap the exception
UploadEntityTooLargeEntity. This exception is raised by GAE when 2
things happen.

Set the max_bytes_total param in the create_upload_url:

self.template_values['AVATAR_SAVE_URL'] =
blobstore.create_upload_url('/saveavatar, max_bytes_total= 524288)

Attempt to post an item that exceeds the max_bytes_total.

I expect that, since my class is derived from RequestHandler that my
error() method would be called. Instead I am getting a 413 screen
telling me the upload is too large.

My request handler is derived from webapp2.RequestHandler. Is it
expected that GAE will work with the error method derived from
webapp2.RequestHandler? I'm not seeing this in GAE's code but I can't
imagine there would be such an omission.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: App Engine Chat Time!

2012-01-12 Thread Brent Cowgill
Rather than sending a server error, maybe it should return a quota error 
and a url taking you direct to the enable billing page ;-)

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[google-appengine] Adding a new custom method to the Auto Generated RPC Service

2012-01-12 Thread quizit
Hi,
I have been trying to get my head around the IO session listed below.
http://bradabrams.com/2011/05/google-io-session-overview-android-app-engine-a-developers-dream-combination/

Everything seems straight forward till I tried to create my own custom
method in the auto generated CloudTasksService class.
eg I want to add a method like

public static boolean doesTaskExist( Task task )
{
return true/false if tasks exists or not
}

Problem is how do I get this method to be callable from the client?
On the client side the Auto generated code, when you ask the Google
plugin to create the RPC service, works fine for me but now I want to
add a new method manually on the server side, which I have done,  but
how do I modify the TaskRequest  class to allow my client to call this
method?  The problem I see is the TaskRequest is created by the
factory.   Do I have to implement all the plumbing code myself which
the Google plugin does automatically for the other methods.  I just
don't want to have to be implementing code myself which can be done
automatically.

[code]
TaskRequest request = taskRequestFactory.taskRequest();
 taskProxy = request.edit(taskProxy);
[/code]

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[google-appengine] Errors

2012-01-12 Thread KK
Hi,

I see some error statistics reported in the Dashboard.

209.120.218.192 - - [12/Jan/2012:10:20:44 -0800] "HEAD / HTTP/1.1" 405
124 - "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; tr; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/
20100722 Firefox/3.6.8 ( .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET4.0E)"

What does this error mean? Is there any way to get rid of these
errors?

Thanks
Kyle

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[google-appengine] deploy only static files

2012-01-12 Thread Gregory Nicholas
is there currently a way to only deploy certain, or only static files?

this is what i'm currently facing, and hoping to use a selective
deploy feature for:

- my app is currently managing a couple dozen automated system emails
- created them as django templates to reduce maintenance overhead
- some emails have 2 or 3 different versions
- allow us to test and compare responses between variations

ideally, i want to provide a fast path to updating the email
templates, without redeploying the entire application. is this
possible or should i look to not use static files / django if they
need to be updated more often than i deploy?

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[google-appengine] Re: Empty Query Results

2012-01-12 Thread billguy
Thanks for the reply.
I'm on HR.
Data was inserted days ago.  Sometimes queries return results,
sometimes they don't - random.
It worked fine in development, problem noticed in production.

Should I be querying 'DateProperty' differently than what I previously
cited?

On Jan 12, 9:47 am, Simon Knott  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A few questions:
>
>    - What datastore are you running against, Master/Slave (M/S) or High
>    Replication (HR)?
>    - If it's the latter, how quickly are you querying for the data after it
>    has been inserted?
>    - Are you facing this issue on the development environment or in
>    production?
>
> Cheers,
> Simon

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[google-appengine] Re: Empty Query Results

2012-01-12 Thread Simon Knott
Hi,

A few questions:

   - What datastore are you running against, Master/Slave (M/S) or High 
   Replication (HR)?
   - If it's the latter, how quickly are you querying for the data after it 
   has been inserted?
   - Are you facing this issue on the development environment or in 
   production?

Cheers,
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[google-appengine] Re: Empty Query Results

2012-01-12 Thread billguy
bump

On Jan 10, 9:38 am, billguy  wrote:
> More often than not, my queries return empty despite there being data
> in the datastore.  No errors are logged either (that I can see).  Am I
> doing something wrong?
>
> ---
>
> class Notes(db.Model):
>
>         description=db.StringProperty(required=False)
>         start_date=db.DateProperty(default=datetime.datetime.now())
>         point_person=db.StringProperty(required=False)
>         default_end=datetime.datetime.now() + relativedelta( months = 1 )
>
> end_date=db.DateProperty(default=datetime.date(default_end.year,default_end 
> .month,default_end.day))
>         end_dates=db.StringProperty(required=False)
>         user=db.UserProperty()
>
> ---
>
> c=Notes.all()
> c.filter("user =",self.user)
> c.filter("start_date >=",datetime.date(self.year,self.month,1))
> c.filter("start_date
> <",datetime.date(int(next_month.strftime('%Y')),int(next_month.strftime('%m 
> ')),
> 1))
> current = c.fetch(20)
>
> ---

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Re: [google-appengine] string encoding problem

2012-01-12 Thread Andreas
disregard my last mail. it was my mistake. was editing and executing 2 
different files.
it works fine.

thx 
On Jan 12, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Andreas wrote:

> thx for the hint brandon.
> 
> i see that the quotes here are replaced by the unicode character u201c which 
> in this sting is escaped like \u201c.
> even if i store it without the escaping i still get the character al 'u201c' 
> instead of the 'smart quotes'.
> 
> maybe im not getting something. 
> in my blogapp i usually convert a forms input into unicode and whatever 
> character is fine when displaying on screen after fetching the entity.
> 
> what am i doing wrong?
> 
> 
> On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Brandon Wirtz wrote:
> 
>> \u201c
> 

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Re: [google-appengine] string encoding problem

2012-01-12 Thread Andreas
thx for the hint brandon.

i see that the quotes here are replaced by the unicode character u201c which in 
this sting is escaped like \u201c.
even if i store it without the escaping i still get the character al 'u201c' 
instead of the 'smart quotes'.

maybe im not getting something. 
in my blogapp i usually convert a forms input into unicode and whatever 
character is fine when displaying on screen after fetching the entity.

what am i doing wrong?


On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:24 PM, Brandon Wirtz wrote:

> \u201c

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[google-appengine] AppEngine Billing History Not updating

2012-01-12 Thread agp
I have not seen anything in my billing history since 1/9/12 for one of my 
apps. I do have multiple applications and others are updating. Around the 
same time I also pre-purchased front end instance hours, do I only get 
billing history once a week now? How do I know if the changes I am making 
are helping my budget or not..?

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[google-appengine] Google Edge Doesn't Squish As well as Apache

2012-01-12 Thread Brandon Wirtz
We were running metrics on how much saving our tools get by running our
proxy, and ran noticed that there were pages we were making things worse
instead of better. How could that be? Turns out that Apache / PHP 5
zlib.output_compression is about 5% better at compressing than the
edgecache.  So File is served to Google Uncompressed, recompressed by edge,
and the result is bigger than the source.
 
Kind of interesting.  Not sure who it helps. But still interesting.
 
 

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RE: [google-appengine] Rising cloud opportunities - zend survey

2012-01-12 Thread Brandon Wirtz
The problem with the templates is that Many of them use custom calls, and
custom PHP. (all of mine do)

But converting some of the most popular wouldn't be too hard.

www.xyhd.tv and www.jeffprobst.com are Wordpress running behind GAE :-)  I
wouldn't even have to do a rewrite if it was "closed source" we just
wouldn't tell anyone that there were Apache servers in the background. :-)



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Sounds like a fun weekend ;-) project. And since WP is GPL, we could reuse
all of the templates, CSS files and so on (of course, with some guarded
optimism - I've seen under WP's hood) to gain some time and give some
familiar look and feel for users.

Not a bad idea.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Brandon Wirtz  wrote:
> I can blame Google for that too.  Why isn't there a good CMS for GAE?
> That would have been very high on my list. I'd have said to someone like
me.
> "here is $300k" take a team and build us a wordpress killer.
>
> And GAE would have instantly been "the CMS that doesn't crash" and
> bloggers would talk about if GAE was better than PHP, and all the
> script kiddies would jump on board, and Voila instant credibility.
>
> Do you know how many times I have heard (and Google must have as well)
> But it doesn't run MySQL.
> To which I responded CMS WTF you say "Gimme Record" and you are done.
> There's no SQL in CMS's you could to that in tables or flat files.
>
> But because you "can't" run a blog on it, it must suck.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Bánffy
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:00 AM
> To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Rising cloud opportunities - zend
> survey
>
> Selection bias. Zend has much more contact with PHP developers and App
> Engine doesn't do PHP. For them, things like Gondor, Heroku and
> Djangozoom don't register.
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Brandon Wirtz 
wrote:
>> People don't get infinite scale, or PaaS.  Plus Google doesn't have
>> anyone who speaks Tech Press. So they don't get any love.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Efi
>> Merdler-Kravitz
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:29 AM
>> To: Google App Engine
>> Subject: [google-appengine] Rising cloud opportunities - zend survey
>>
>> I've just read on GigaOm (http://gigaom.com/cloud/developers-will-
>> flock-to-public-cloud-in-2012/) an interesting article on the
>> adoption of cloud.
>>
>> An interesting question was about which public cloud services
>> developers will use and app engine wasn't mentioned at all, Two
>> points I'm interested to hear your thoughts on:
>> 1. It always seems that app engine is conceived as a toy cloud
>> platform, *I know it's not*, but why the press treats it like that ?
>> 2. what's your experience with your colleagues, do you hear numbers
>> like the ones mentioned on the article ?
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Re: [google-appengine] Rising cloud opportunities - zend survey

2012-01-12 Thread Ricardo Bánffy
Sounds like a fun weekend ;-) project. And since WP is GPL, we could reuse
all of the templates, CSS files and so on (of course, with some
guarded optimism - I've seen under WP's hood) to gain some time and
give some familiar look and feel for users.

Not a bad idea.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Brandon Wirtz  wrote:
> I can blame Google for that too.  Why isn't there a good CMS for GAE? That
> would have been very high on my list. I'd have said to someone like me.
> "here is $300k" take a team and build us a wordpress killer.
>
> And GAE would have instantly been "the CMS that doesn't crash" and bloggers
> would talk about if GAE was better than PHP, and all the script kiddies
> would jump on board, and Voila instant credibility.
>
> Do you know how many times I have heard (and Google must have as well) But
> it doesn't run MySQL.
> To which I responded CMS WTF you say "Gimme Record" and you are done.
> There's no SQL in CMS's you could to that in tables or flat files.
>
> But because you "can't" run a blog on it, it must suck.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Bánffy
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:00 AM
> To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Rising cloud opportunities - zend survey
>
> Selection bias. Zend has much more contact with PHP developers and App
> Engine doesn't do PHP. For them, things like Gondor, Heroku and Djangozoom
> don't register.
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Brandon Wirtz  wrote:
>> People don't get infinite scale, or PaaS.  Plus Google doesn't have
>> anyone who speaks Tech Press. So they don't get any love.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Efi
>> Merdler-Kravitz
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:29 AM
>> To: Google App Engine
>> Subject: [google-appengine] Rising cloud opportunities - zend survey
>>
>> I've just read on GigaOm (http://gigaom.com/cloud/developers-will-
>> flock-to-public-cloud-in-2012/) an interesting article on the adoption
>> of cloud.
>>
>> An interesting question was about which public cloud services
>> developers will use and app engine wasn't mentioned at all, Two points
>> I'm interested to hear your thoughts on:
>> 1. It always seems that app engine is conceived as a toy cloud
>> platform, *I know it's not*, but why the press treats it like that ?
>> 2. what's your experience with your colleagues, do you hear numbers
>> like the ones mentioned on the article ?
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RE: [google-appengine] Rising cloud opportunities - zend survey

2012-01-12 Thread Brandon Wirtz
I can blame Google for that too.  Why isn't there a good CMS for GAE? That
would have been very high on my list. I'd have said to someone like me.
"here is $300k" take a team and build us a wordpress killer.

And GAE would have instantly been "the CMS that doesn't crash" and bloggers
would talk about if GAE was better than PHP, and all the script kiddies
would jump on board, and Voila instant credibility.

Do you know how many times I have heard (and Google must have as well) But
it doesn't run MySQL.
To which I responded CMS WTF you say "Gimme Record" and you are done.
There's no SQL in CMS's you could to that in tables or flat files.

But because you "can't" run a blog on it, it must suck.


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Selection bias. Zend has much more contact with PHP developers and App
Engine doesn't do PHP. For them, things like Gondor, Heroku and Djangozoom
don't register.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Brandon Wirtz  wrote:
> People don't get infinite scale, or PaaS.  Plus Google doesn't have
> anyone who speaks Tech Press. So they don't get any love.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Efi
> Merdler-Kravitz
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:29 AM
> To: Google App Engine
> Subject: [google-appengine] Rising cloud opportunities - zend survey
>
> I've just read on GigaOm (http://gigaom.com/cloud/developers-will-
> flock-to-public-cloud-in-2012/) an interesting article on the adoption
> of cloud.
>
> An interesting question was about which public cloud services
> developers will use and app engine wasn't mentioned at all, Two points
> I'm interested to hear your thoughts on:
> 1. It always seems that app engine is conceived as a toy cloud
> platform, *I know it's not*, but why the press treats it like that ?
> 2. what's your experience with your colleagues, do you hear numbers
> like the ones mentioned on the article ?
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Re: [google-appengine] Rising cloud opportunities - zend survey

2012-01-12 Thread Ricardo Bánffy
Selection bias. Zend has much more contact with PHP developers and App
Engine doesn't do PHP. For them, things like Gondor, Heroku and
Djangozoom don't register.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Brandon Wirtz  wrote:
> People don't get infinite scale, or PaaS.  Plus Google doesn't have anyone
> who speaks Tech Press. So they don't get any love.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
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> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:29 AM
> To: Google App Engine
> Subject: [google-appengine] Rising cloud opportunities - zend survey
>
> I've just read on GigaOm (http://gigaom.com/cloud/developers-will-
> flock-to-public-cloud-in-2012/) an interesting article on the adoption of
> cloud.
>
> An interesting question was about which public cloud services developers
> will use and app engine wasn't mentioned at all, Two points I'm interested
> to hear your thoughts on:
> 1. It always seems that app engine is conceived as a toy cloud platform, *I
> know it's not*, but why the press treats it like that ?
> 2. what's your experience with your colleagues, do you hear numbers like the
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RE: [google-appengine] Rising cloud opportunities - zend survey

2012-01-12 Thread Brandon Wirtz
People don't get infinite scale, or PaaS.  Plus Google doesn't have anyone
who speaks Tech Press. So they don't get any love.

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[mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Efi Merdler-Kravitz
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:29 AM
To: Google App Engine
Subject: [google-appengine] Rising cloud opportunities - zend survey

I've just read on GigaOm (http://gigaom.com/cloud/developers-will-
flock-to-public-cloud-in-2012/) an interesting article on the adoption of
cloud.

An interesting question was about which public cloud services developers
will use and app engine wasn't mentioned at all, Two points I'm interested
to hear your thoughts on:
1. It always seems that app engine is conceived as a toy cloud platform, *I
know it's not*, but why the press treats it like that ?
2. what's your experience with your colleagues, do you hear numbers like the
ones mentioned on the article ?

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[google-appengine] Rising cloud opportunities - zend survey

2012-01-12 Thread Efi Merdler-Kravitz
I've just read on GigaOm (http://gigaom.com/cloud/developers-will-
flock-to-public-cloud-in-2012/) an interesting article on the adoption
of cloud.

An interesting question was about which public cloud services
developers will use and app engine wasn't mentioned at all,
Two points I'm interested to hear your thoughts on:
1. It always seems that app engine is conceived as a toy cloud
platform, *I know it's not*, but why the press treats it like that ?
2. what's your experience with your colleagues, do you hear numbers
like the ones mentioned on the article ?

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Fatal: Wrong mime-type in CSS responses

2012-01-12 Thread Mos
Thanks to Ikai and the other GAE guys!

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Ikai Lan (Google) wrote:

> We have an SDK update that resolves this issue on upload (I've also posted
> in a separate thread about this):
>
>
> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/detail?name=appengine-java-sdk-1.6.1.1.zip
>
> --
> Ikai Lan
> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> plus.ikailan.com | twitter.com/ikai
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Amy Unruh  wrote:
>
>> Just to update this thread with info from another thread:
>>
>> We think we know what's happening. This is something that is happening at
>> app upload time. Can you try setting a new version name for your app, then
>> passing the --no_batch option when using appcfg.sh?
>>
>> appcfg.sh --no_batch update [YOUR_WAR_DIRECTORY]
>>
>> 2012/1/10 Iván Rodríguez 
>>
>>> -1000 10 minutes later the css is off, what fucking is this?
>>>
>>> El 10 de enero de 2012 12:23, Iván Rodríguez escribió:
>>>
>>> +1


 2012/1/10 Janeane Foster 

> Great tip Amy
>
> Thanks
> On Jan 9, 2012 11:12 PM, "Amy Unruh"  wrote:
>
>> For those affected, it looks like a workaround is to add the
>> following to your web.xml:
>>
>> 
>>  css
>>  text/css
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:44 AM, Mos  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello GAE-Team,
>>>
>>> no news in 24h on this critical issue?
>>>
>>> I'm new to GAE and we will release our first application the next
>>> days.
>>> But this issue make me loose my confidence in GAE's reliability. I
>>> get doubt if Google App Engine was the right choice?
>>>
>>> As Jon mentioned: The issue is around on this list for more than two
>>> weeks.
>>> The issue breaks applications --> downtimes for more and more of
>>> your GAEs users
>>>
>>> And what I'm really wondering:
>>> It seems to be a simple fix on the GAE-Frontends. It shouldn't be
>>> such a complex thing,
>>> to evaluate why the response header sends a null mime-type and not
>>> the css mime-type for some
>>> application's  *.css files? You have more then one test-case on
>>> this
>>> Your GAE guys are so smart and can't fix this one?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Mos
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Amy Unruh 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Mos (and others),

 The issue is being actively investigated; we'll be sure to update
 this thread and the issue page as soon as there is more to report.
 Mos, you can go ahead and re-deploy if you want, as we have other
 test cases as this point.

  -Amy


 On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Mos  wrote:

> Hello Ikai,
>
> did you have the chance to evaluate on the issue?
> I sent you my broken test version / URL  two days ago.
>
> I wanna redeploy in near future, but don't want to destroy "your
> test-case".
>
> Please give some feedback.
>
> Further I think we should put the issue on critical, because this
> bug breaks
> webpages and many people are affected:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6655
>
> Cheers
> Mos
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Mos wrote:
>
>> Hi Ikai,
>>
>> the problem occurs in all browsers (I tested Firefox, Chrome and
>> IE).
>> All browsers get a mime-type of null.
>> Firefox is able to interpret the stylesheet nevertheless. IE and
>> Chrome fail and the site is destroyed.
>>
>> Since yesterday I have a version of my application that still has
>> the problem.
>> I sent you the URL and the Beta-Login in a private email.
>>
>> I need to redepoy at the weekend, so please check it in the next
>> hours.
>>
>> Greetings Mos
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) <
>> ika...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mos, what browser is this?
>>>
>>> I've seen some talk of this but it's passing and we can't seem
>>> to catch it in action. I need more data so I can hunt this down - 
>>> URLs when
>>> this is failing. The reports I've seen are that this happens 
>>> specifically
>>> to Chrome users.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ikai Lan
>>> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
>>> plus.ikailan.com | twitter.com/ikai
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Mos wrote:
>>>
 Just found the issue
 http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6655
>