[google-appengine] Need help tracing a road map in GCP for python web app deployment

[Guanaco Devs]

Hi, First of all sorry if this is not the right place to post this, but I 
really need some guidance.

I want to build a web app with python and deploy it using GCP. My web app 
will be for e-commerce, I want to build it from scratch and plan to 
maintain it for as long as I live.
Due to the broad range of products in GCP I really don't know how to start, 
for instance "Flask vs. Django"(I'm already building my app with Flask). 
Then is, where or how to deploy it?, not the procedure, but the GCP product 
that might be a good fit for my needs.

I started with Firebase for Android and I'm quite familiar with all the 
"Development" products of Firebase I use them across my released apps with 
a 100% satisfaction, that's why I want to use Firestore/RTDB, Storage and 
Firebase Auth. Tried Wordpress(mostly to make the html and css easier for 
me) but drop it, because I felt that there were so many things out of my 
control and I did not find a way to integrate my Firebase knowledge with 
wordpress.

Thanks to my Firebase experience I learned basic python, javascript for my 
functions and have a good amount of bash scripts that help me maintain the 
backend for my products, without having to be in front of the computer and 
got to get familliar with `gcloud` and the cloud console.

Yet I fail to find what product is the best for me to deploy a python web 
app, should I go GAE, get a VM, Kubernetes, cloud run, is just so many 
products that I believe are good.

Best Regards
Edgard

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Re: [google-appengine] NEED HELP CREATING MY APP AND LAUNCHING ON GOOGLE CONSOLE

[Vanessa Bush]

Minimal and yes I saw , I'll need to learn I'll hire someone to help me I
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On Wednesday, December 4, 2019, 'Elliott (Cloud Platform Support)' via
Google App Engine  wrote:

> Hello Vanessa,
>
> I don’t think this is the best place to learn how to code an app from
> scratch. What is your experience with programming applications? Have you
> done some before? There are many tutorials available on the Internet but it
> takes years of experience to design an app.
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: App Engine, MySQL and private ip

['Andrew Gorcester' via Google App Engine]

Hi Charlotte,

Additionally, once you have a private Cloud SQL IP address, I think you
should be able to connect to it from App Engine by using Serverless Virtual
Private Cloud Access:
https://cloud.google.com/vpc/docs/configure-serverless-vpc-access .

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 3:32 PM 'Elliott (Cloud Platform Support)' via
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> Hello Charlotte,
>
> You can get a private IP when you create a Cloud SQL instance under
> “Configuration Options”. I hope this helps.
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[google-appengine] Re: App Engine, MySQL and private ip

['Elliott (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

Hello Charlotte,

You can get a private IP when you create a Cloud SQL instance under 
“Configuration Options”. I hope this helps.

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Re: [google-appengine] NEED HELP CREATING MY APP AND LAUNCHING ON GOOGLE CONSOLE

['Elliott (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

Hello Vanessa,

I don’t think this is the best place to learn how to code an app from 
scratch. What is your experience with programming applications? Have you 
done some before? There are many tutorials available on the Internet but it 
takes years of experience to design an app.

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[google-appengine] Re: GCP App engine multithreading

['Elliott (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

Hello Ajinkya,

Please note that Google Groups are reserved for general Google Cloud 
Platform and product discussions and not for technical issues, which is why 
I suggest moving the troubleshooting to Stackoverflow 
, where you may receive advice from our 
programming community.

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[google-appengine] Re: I can change permission storage folder laravel correctly .

['Elliott (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine]

Hello Phal,

Please note that Google Groups are reserved for general Google Cloud 
Platform and product discussions and not for reporting issues, which is why 
I suggest moving the troubleshooting to Issue Tracker 
, 
where issues can be turned private in case we need to gather any project 
specific details.

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Re: [google-appengine] Hosting multiple web applications with Google App Engine

['Miriam Khalil' via Google App Engine]

Hi Suhas,

Hope you are well.

Kindly note that you can add multiple web applications in the same app
engine by adding "service: name of the app" in the app.yaml file.

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On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 3:20 PM Suhas Vengilat 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm a Google Cloud Infra guy. My client want to host multiple web
> applications using a app engine. Is this technically possible? My
> understanding is that, I can host multiple versions of the same web
> application using Google App Engine.
>
> Any helpful directions on this would be most welcome.
>
> Thanks
> Suhas
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[google-appengine] App Engine, MySQL and private ip

[Charlotte Hyldahl]

Hi,

I have an PHP application that can only connect through TCP to mysql (no 
sockets). I host it on Google Cloud App Engine. I have created a Cloud SQL 
database too.

When i use the PHP application externally, it connects fine to the public 
ip of my Cloud SQL database. I have allowed my external ip in the 
connection panel of the Cloud SQL database. All is fine.

But now when i deploy the PHP app to app engine it fails, thats pretty 
obvious, as i use the public ip, and the new ip is not allowed in the Cloud 
SQL database.

My question is: How do i get an internal ip address that i can use to 
connect to my Cloud SQL database from my PHP app on App Engine?

Sorry but i really cant find a good answer for this pretty simple question.

Regards Charlotte

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Re: [google-appengine] Python 3.7 and Python 2 ndb cache conflict

['Andrew Gorcester' via Google App Engine]

Hi Eliran,

On Python 3, you can use Cloud Memorystore to provide a Redis cache.
However, you can't currently share a cache between the Python 2.7 and
Python 3.7 versions of the GAE. The cache will be separate, which will be
an issue as you describe if you are running both Python 2 and Python 3
versions targeting the same Datastore database.

Now that Cloud NDB supports Python 2.7 in addition to Python 3.7, you could
try to solve this problem by replacing your GAE NDB with Cloud NDB on
Python 2.7, and then pointing it at the same Redis instance as the Python
3.7 version. Instead of sharing Memcache, you can share Redis. See the
documentation for more info:
https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/python3/migrating-to-cloud-ndb

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 5:20 AM 'Eliran Segev' via Google App Engine <
google-appengine@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi, we are migrating our python 2 services to python 3.
>
>
> In python 2 we are using NDB - that uses Memcache
> In python 3 we are using cloud NDB - that cannot have Memcache as cache
> provider
>
> And now we have a problem when updating an entity from Python 3 it does
> not affect the cache, and when using Python 2 we get the cached copy of
> this entity.
>
>
> Without changing python 2 code to cloud NDB, how can we solve this and
> still have cache?
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[google-appengine] Hosting multiple web applications with Google App Engine

[Suhas Vengilat]

Hi All,

I'm a Google Cloud Infra guy. My client want to host multiple web 
applications using a app engine. Is this technically possible? My 
understanding is that, I can host multiple versions of the same web 
application using Google App Engine. 

Any helpful directions on this would be most welcome. 

Thanks
Suhas

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[google-appengine] Re: GCP App engine multithreading

[Ajinkya Khalwadekar]

Hello Elliott,

Thank you for your quick reply. 
This is one of the posts i came across 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3800435/why-does-google-app-engine-support-a-single-thread-of-execution-only
 .

So i want to develop a multi-threaded application, in which each thread 
makes a call to multiple third party applications and once the data from 
all these calls is returned I would want to do further processing. Can you 
please guide me on this?

Thanks,
Ajinkya. 

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:04:46 AM UTC+5:30, Elliott (Cloud 
Platform Support) wrote:
>
> Hello Ajinkya,
>
> Can you please share the links to the articles you found? I am told that 
> Java supports concurrent threads. Can you provide an example on how you 
> want to use this feature on Google Cloud Platform? We will need this to 
> provide a good answer for you. 
>
> The Executor framework is not managed by Google. Maybe a post on 
> Stackoverflow  would be appropriate.
>
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[google-appengine] Python 3.7 and Python 2 ndb cache conflict

['Eliran Segev' via Google App Engine]

Hi, we are migrating our python 2 services to python 3.


In python 2 we are using NDB - that uses Memcache
In python 3 we are using cloud NDB - that cannot have Memcache as cache 
provider

And now we have a problem when updating an entity from Python 3 it does not 
affect the cache, and when using Python 2 we get the cached copy of this 
entity.


Without changing python 2 code to cloud NDB, how can we solve this and 
still have cache?

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Re: [google-appengine] NEED HELP CREATING MY APP AND LAUNCHING ON GOOGLE CONSOLE

[Vanessa Bush]

Yes I need help with creating it, and launching, I m looking for a very
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On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 7:39 PM 'Elliott (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google
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> Hello Vanessa,
>
> Do you need help designing an application from scratch? Or do you have
> something ready that already exists that you want to put on Google Cloud?
>
> I think we can help guide you generally how to deploy an application.
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