Re: [google-appengine] Re: Stolen website on Google sub domaine? What should I do?

2015-11-09 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi,

Based on the page at: -

http://flawedgate.appspot.com/

...and what happens when you enter Google's own domain there: -

http://flawedgate.appspot.com/google.com

...the site in question seems to simply be a proxy.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: My site scraped with app on appspot.com

2015-07-09 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi Eduard,

On 09/07/15 08:39, Eduard Dimitrov wrote:

P.S. I see many other sites with such a problems within urls of this
App - vivaciousp29.appspot.com


It's a proxy, rather than a site hosting scraped content, so you can 
probably access pretty much any site through it.


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Re: [google-appengine] Google Apps No Longer Free

2015-01-22 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi Vinny,

On 22/01/15 04:22, Vinny P wrote:

You're talking about the difference between adding the domain as a
secondary domain/adding it as an alias domain, correct?



Yes, I think so - don't recall the term secondary, but looking at a 
paid Google apps account, the option is described as: -


Add another domain
Manage users and groups at an associated domain that you own, 
independently of the primary domain.


...so I think we're talking about the same thing.


To connect a domain name to App Engine, it's always been recommended to
use the domain as a primary or an alias domain on Apps. Configuring it
as a secondary domain might give you distinct email accounts, but in my
experience that introduces strange issues for Apps management and config
- not only for App Engine but other services as well. I understand your
point, but at the same time I think the change helps streamline Apps and
probably helps reduce support costs as well. Frankly, I've always
thought it was strange that Apps had 3 different ways (primary,
secondary, alias) of configuring domains.



Re. problems, I haven't experienced those, but to be honest that's 
probably because I'm not doing anything very complicated.


Re. helps streamline Apps and probably helps reduce support costs, I 
don't honestly see that - this change makes the grandafathered free 
versions different from the standard version in functionality as opposed 
to numerical limits (which is surely /less/ streamlined), and given that 
were are talking about the unpaid versions I don't supposed an enormous 
amount of resource goes into support.


FWIW, although Google have been silent on this issue, there is some 
suggestion in the support forums that this was done to prevent abuse, 
specifically to prevent people selling free apps accounts and using 
this mechanism to switch domains. If that's the case, I'm a little 
perplexed - seems like a crude way of combating the problem, and it 
seems like a problem that is self-limiting in the sense that there can 
only be a finite no. of these account out there. More to the point, I 
feel as though I'm being punished for someone else's misbehaviour, and 
that Google haven't been entirely straight about the fact, the timing, 
or the rationale for the change.


It might seem churlish complaining about tweaks to a free service, and I 
absolutely do appreciate the fantastic freebie that apps for domains was 
(and continues to be, up to a point), but it does constitute a change 
when we were told the service would be unchanged, and it does make my 
existing accounts much less useful for my purpose, in part because this 
has diminished my confidence in continuity of service.



If you absolutely must have free email accounts, I would suggest looking
at your registrar - GoDaddy and other registrars occasionally have sales
where they bundle free email or another service with the purchase of a
domain. It's entirely possible to configure an alias domain, use it for
an App Engine site, but to use an external mail service for that domain.



Sure - I run a bunch of servers with Virtualmin on them, so giving 
people the ability to create multiple email addresses is not an issue.


For me the issue is that I was able to set up projects with a domain 
name, probably only two or three users (one of them me), and hand it 
over the user as a coherent whole, where the Google Apps account let 
them manage their domain, email, apps and - in some cases - App Engine 
apps with a single account.


Knitting together multiple services is fiddly for me, and the result is 
messier for my users. What I've come to realise is that the Google 
account within the Apps domain was the valuable bit - without that, its 
easier to host and deploy elsewhere.


Having said all the above, I recognise that I'm probably not that great 
a fit for App Engine, and that this change has just made that clear to 
me - my point is merely that this is an unannounced change to the 
service, and that for some of us it means that these grandfathered 
accounts are no longer useful for new projects.



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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google Apps No Longer Free

2015-01-21 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi,

On 21/01/15 16:04, PK wrote:

Yes old Google Apps accounts are grandfathered with the terms of the
time they were opened.



Mostly!

Google recently disabled the ability to add an additional domain to an 
existing account - you can now add an alias domain, but not a domain 
with distinct email addresses.


Whilst this is a PITA in my particular circumstances, it's not a huge 
deal - but there was no announcement, and Google's support folks are 
pretending that it has always been that way, which is simply not true.


This has considerably reduced my faith in Google's commitment to not 
reducing the functionality of these grandfathered accounts, and I've 
essentially stopped starting up new projects in them.



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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Appengine ecosystem?

2014-06-27 Thread Philip Kilner
Hi,

On 27/06/14 09:15, timh wrote:
 Unfortunately it seems all the good appengine discussions went away with
 the SO introduction
 however SO is no good for discussions about approach, idea's etc...  it
 also seems like a lot of input etc
 disappeared when people like Nick Johnson and Ikai went elsewhere.
 
 Just my 2c worth.
 

+1

I find that listening to the chit-chat of form discussions is a great
way to discover how other people use tools and helps me learn, and the
lack of such a forum since the advent of SO as the official channel has
made App Engine that much less attractive as a result.

Ultimately, Google's changes in this area have convinced me that I am
not the intended audience for App Engine. As a solo developer, my needs
have been much better served since I switched to platforms where the
vendors see the value in this sort of community.


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Re: [google-appengine] what is future of GAE?

2013-10-24 Thread Philip Kilner
Hi,

On 24/10/13 20:08, Vinny P wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Jeff Schnitzer j...@infohazard.org
 mailto:j...@infohazard.org wrote:

 It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th, 1997.

 Jeff

 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Ashwini
 Krishna ashwini.kasar...@gmail.com
 mailto:ashwini.kasar...@gmail.com wrote:

 what is future of GAE?



 It's been self aware for 16 years? Uh oh... does anyone know how to
 contact the Terminator?

sudo apt-get install terminator ?

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Re: [google-appengine] not working www.myapp-id.appspot.com while using https

2013-04-26 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi Naveen,

On 26/04/13 06:29, Naveen Mamidala wrote:

  In my app engine application am using domain appspot.com, and enabled
https. After this all redirect urls are working fine with https.
But my problem is when am trying to access www.myapp-id.appspot.com it
should redirect to https://myapp-id.appspot.com, but am
faceing below problem



The issue is the www, as in that format your full URL would match 
*.*.appspot.com, but not *.appspot.com.


Apparently this used to work, but is no longer supported: -


https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/google-appengine/u2Tmtv8W6Bo

However, the part of your question I don't understand is the statement 
that it should redirect - are you implementing the redirect yourself 
to catch people who add www when it is not required, are you expecting 
that to be automatic, or something else?



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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Outage - Python 2.7, HRD. CloudSQL

2013-03-03 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi All,

My app has now been down for 48 hours, and since no-one else here seems 
to have the same issue or severity, so have posted a production issue 
here: -


https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=8918

If you /do/ have the same issue, please star!


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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Outage - Python 2.7, HRD. CloudSQL

2013-03-03 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi John,

On 03/03/13 16:01, johnP wrote:

There are lots of posts lately about bad serving performance across many
configurations.  There have also lots of posts questioning why Google
has not acknowledged any of the posts.



All true.

It's probably worth mentioning out that this is a simple CRUD app - it 
really isn't doing anything exotic. The only thing on my side that I 
can see affecting it is the Cloud SQL connection code in the framework, 
although I'd hardly expect that to suddenly stop working.


Fortunately, this app is portable and is currently in the process of 
being commissioned, so I can move it temporarily without significant 
impact on the customer. If it were not for the fact that I've planned 
for that contingency, this situation would very serious indeed.




There are clearly serving issues.  There is clearly no reaction, over an
extended period of time.



Well, I've been tracking this forum and the situation for a couple of 
years, an have gone into it with my eyes open and a Plan B all ready 
to roll, so I'm prepared - but the response to this will be a bit of a 
litmus test.



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[google-appengine] Outage - Python 2.7, HRD. CloudSQL

2013-03-01 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi,

I've had an outage now since approximately 00:50am UK time - Pingdom 
tells me that the app is up and down, but in reality it isn't serving pages.


Looking at logs, I see a wide variety of errors, even though every hit 
is to the home page or redirected to the login page (just monitor hist 
and login attempts).


It really isn't consistent enough for me to feel that my previously 
happy app has an issue, and in fact the errors are primarily time-outs 
or throw tracebacks related to framework code making a DB connection.


Errors spotted so far are are: -

- Deadline exceeded

- Exceeded soft private memory limit with 154.66 MB after servicing 1 
requests total


- File 
/python27_runtime/python27_lib/versions/1/google/storage/speckle/python/api/rdbms.py, 
line 967, in _MakeRetriableRequest

raise _ToDbApiException(sql_exception)
InternalError: (0L, u'Connection is already in use.')

...none of which I've seen before.

I'm hoping matters will improve, and fortunately am not (yet) under too 
much pressure but wanted to ask: -


- Is anyone else seeing this?

- Is there a known issue with Cloud SQL? (When it gets as far as an 
error, RDBMS connection seems to be the issue)


- Is there anything useful I can do other than wait?



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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Every day around 9.10 AM Brussels time, huge drop in GAE performances

2013-02-11 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi,

On 11/02/13 08:20, gafal wrote:

It's happening AGAIN!!
the instances that are spun up are unable to serve any request!

*H E L P*

This is not acceptable!!



I've just experienced something similar: -

- The app was apparently temporarily frozen.
- Browsers just showed a loading spinner.
- Console showed no instances.
- The bulk import that I was running aborted with error, but it's not 
100% clear to me right now whether that was the same issue.


There was certainly something odd going on, around 8am UK time today - 
from my PoV, it started at or a whisker before 8am GMT, and lasted c.20 
mins.


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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Every day around 9.10 AM Brussels time, huge drop in GAE performances

2013-02-11 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi Again,

On 11/02/13 08:33, Philip Kilner wrote:

There was certainly something odd going on, around 8am UK time today -
from my PoV, it started at or a whisker before 8am GMT, and lasted c.20
mins.



Spoke too soon - am still getting anomalous behaviour, specifically 
spinning (un-served) requests, and console reports no instances - looks 
like it's having trouble spinning up instances to serve requests. It's 
improving over time, but is still not what I'd expect.


Based on what I'm seeing, I'm astonished that this does not show as a 
spike in the latency on the status page.



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Re: [google-appengine] Re: cannot run app engine

2013-01-31 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi,

On 30/01/13 08:29, Joyce Santiago wrote:

WHERE I CAN FIND THE TERMINAL? HELP ME GUYS! THIS IS MY FIRST TO CREATE
APPS.



What OS are you one? Windows / Linux / OSX / Other?

The answer is different for each platform...


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Re: [google-appengine] How do I get the GoBS security that is needed to be in compliance with German law for business applications electronically storing invoices?

2012-02-22 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi Martin,

On 22/02/2012 12:13, AX Business Solutions AG wrote:

In Germany there is
a law called GoBS that regulates the security for storing data that is
required for storing invoices. E.g. it says that the data only is
allowed to be stored on places withing Europe. What do I have to do -
whom do I have to contact - to ensure this.



I'm in the UK, but the data protection regime is broadly similar here.

The two things you need to know are: -

- Although Google don't say all of GAE is in Maintain View, CA, they 
do say it's all in a North American Data Centre - so your data will 
certainly be in the USA.


- There is a Safe Harbour provision that covers this case, so I 
/believe/ (IANAL!) that you will be compliant.


See here: -

http://export.gov/safeharbor/eu/eg_main_018365.asp

...for example.

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Re: [google-appengine] Adhering to data privacy laws with Appengine

2011-10-06 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi Richard,

On 06/10/2011 18:19, Richard Druce wrote:

We have a client who has requested that all their data stay in the EU to
adhere to data privacy laws they are governed by. Is this a possibility
in Appengine?



No, or at least not at the moment.

However, if you are referring to mainstream European Data Protection 
legislation rather than something more specialised, then see: -


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_Harbor_Principles

US-EU Safe Harbor is a streamlined process for US companies to comply 
with the EU Directive 95/46/EC on the protection of personal data.


Intended for organizations within the EU or US that store customer data, 
the Safe Harbor Principles are designed to prevent accidental 
information disclosure or loss. US companies can opt into the program as 
long as they adhere to the 7 principles outlined in the Directive.


...which may cover you if you host such data on App Engine.

IANAL, etc. etc - but worth looking into to see if it covers your 
intended usage.




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Re: [google-appengine] Adhering to data privacy laws with Appengine

2011-10-06 Thread Philip Kilner

Hi,

Hit send too soon, meant to say that Google are signed up for the Safe 
Harbor provisions - see: -


http://www.google.com/privacy/privacy-policy.html

...under Enforcement (2nd to last para): -

Google adheres to the US Safe Harbor Privacy Principles of Notice, 
Choice, Onward Transfer, Security, Data Integrity, Access and 
Enforcement, and is registered with the U.S. Department of Commerce’s 
Safe Harbor Program.


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