Robert,

You are right, and that is exactly the reason why GAE is blocked right now.
I am afraid Kaan is a little behind the times with the YouTube ban, which
has since been lifted. The most recent ban, that also affects one of the IP
addresses that ghs.google.com resolves to, is related to a copyright
violation by a site running on GAE or Blogger. For people who are interested
(and can read Turkish), you can find a copy of the court order here:
http://imgur.com/gYzPl.jpg . The IP address 74.125.43.121 is clearly
visible.

Kaan,

Turkish authorities have reverted to blocking IP address for good now. I
don't think they will change that soon, since they have seen DNS blocking
does not work as they want (too easy to circumvent). About your reachability
problem, I am afraid there is hardly anything Google can do about it. I know
it is frustrating (I have an app or two on GAE as well) but as others have
said there are ways around it:

   1. You can go the reverse proxy route. Others have suggested (I am afraid
   I don't remember who) on this very mailing list, to use a small Linux VPS
   instance on RackSpace to setup a reverse proxy for your site. It seems the
   ping times from there to GAE are very low and the cost is only around $10 a
   month. I already had some Windows services hosted on an EC2 instance on AWS
   and set up ARR on the IIS7 server to do the reverse proxy in about 10
   minutes, and haven't looked back.
   2. I came upon an alternative just the other day. It appears that if you
   set your DNS records to point to one of alternate the IP addresses of
   ghs.google.com, you won't have any problems. (source:
   http://www.burcakcubukcu.com/2010/12/bloggerda-bulunan-alan-adl-siteme.html)
   Now, I haven't tried this myself, but I presume it would work for GAE as
   well. I suggest you setup an A record for yourself such as "
   redirect.example.com" with the IP address contained in the linked article
   and CNAME you primary site (let's say "www.example.com" to "
   redirect.example.com"). If, and, hopefully, when, the ban is lifted, you
   can change the "redirect.example.com" from an A record to a CNAME record
   that points to "ghs.google.com" and you will be all set. YMMV, though.

Best,

Ufuk

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Robert Kluin <robert.kl...@gmail.com>wrote:

> So what happens when they find an app hosted on App Engine they don't
> like and block that?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 14:57, Kaan Soral <kaanso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Actually Turkey doesn't block google, they block Youtube IP's, so the
> > problem is probebly caused by shared IP's.
> >
> > So in my opinion the problem can be solved if Google uses seperate
> > IP's for components.
> >
> > And for government blocking, they normally block domain names rather
> > than IP's but for some reason they only block Youtube IP's because
> > people just enter the site using seperate DNS etc.
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2:29 am, Tim Hoffman <zutes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I don't really believe it is solvable by google.
> >>
> >> If they add a new pool of addresses for appengine, and some apps turn up
> on
> >> appengine that
> >> any particular government doesn't like, they will block access to that
> range
> >> and you are
> >> back in the same situation.
> >>
> >> All anyone can do is educate and lobby their government.
> >>
> >> Rgds
> >>
> >> Tim Hoffman
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