[google-appengine] the fate of a write during an unplanned downtime
There should be a better place for me to post this as it is a comment on the recent downtime notification, which is actually a different google group. (1) The recent downtime announcement said: > We want to stress that these unapplied > writes do not impact the transactional consistency of application data > and resulted in corruption. I'm hoping they meant "and did *not* result in corruption". (2) Question: if there are unapplied writes, what was my application's experience when the unapplied write happened? Did it get a failure during the write? I hope so, because at least then it could respond. It would be worse if the write seemed to go through and then just got sent into the unapplied writes bucket. Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] a fundamental increase in App Engine transparency and locality is needed
I have long wanted to build apps on Google App Engine and have learned a lot about it in preparation for doing so. However the one problem is if I have a customer and their app goes down for an hour and they call me and say "what happened?" and "how can we prevent that in the future?" my only response will be "I don't know" and "we can't." These are unacceptable answers. If you want App Engine to "cross the chasm" and become really for real then at the very least what you need to do is provide the kind of depth of sight into your infrastructure that you the Google engineers have. Further you need some kind of locality in the cloud: it would help if there were some way of ensuring reliability by knowing that (1) I have bought space on some particular cluster of machines (2) which is now stable and more apps are not being added to it; I should know (3) who is maintaining that cluster and (4) be able to send them a trouble ticket and (5) have some idea of what is wrong and how long it is going to take them to fix it. This opaque cloud utility of compute stuff is a fantasy: some locality and transparency will be needed or App Engine will never be really for real. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
