[google-appengine] GAE access from mainland china and cloudfare
before heard that there were access problem to GAE (ghs.google.com) from mainland china. would like to know latest status about this. now we hv domain mapped to GAE instance and seems some users from mainland china can access it without problems. but not sure if all users from different part of china can access, at anytime? also, any help if going through cloudfare? - eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] GAE access from mainland china and cloudfare
GAE is still blocked in mainland China. The regime is constantly monitoring the network traffic and servers and taking actions whenever it sees fit. So I don't believe any simple method can claim access for 'all users' from 'all parts' at 'anytime'. If one server is deemed a 'threat', the whole DNS may be blocked, as is the case of GAE. Good luck, Will On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng ngk...@gmail.com wrote: before heard that there were access problem to GAE (ghs.google.com) from mainland china. would like to know latest status about this. now we hv domain mapped to GAE instance and seems some users from mainland china can access it without problems. but not sure if all users from different part of china can access, at anytime? also, any help if going through cloudfare? - eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] GAE access from mainland china and cloudfare
Thx Will for your input. so cloudfare is not going to help? - eric On 23 May 2012 01:16, Will vocalster@gmail.com wrote: GAE is still blocked in mainland China. The regime is constantly monitoring the network traffic and servers and taking actions whenever it sees fit. So I don't believe any simple method can claim access for 'all users' from 'all parts' at 'anytime'. If one server is deemed a 'threat', the whole DNS may be blocked, as is the case of GAE. Good luck, Will On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng ngk...@gmail.com wrote: before heard that there were access problem to GAE (ghs.google.com) from mainland china. would like to know latest status about this. now we hv domain mapped to GAE instance and seems some users from mainland china can access it without problems. but not sure if all users from different part of china can access, at anytime? also, any help if going through cloudfare? - eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] GAE access from mainland china and cloudfare
This is an interesting question. If I am not mistaken, the Great Firewall is IP-based. CloudFlare is a proxy. If you are on public (non-ssl) CF, you are using a shared IP and chances are you will have erratic problems. If you are using ssl, then you are still using a shared IP, but only shared with ~20 other sites. The chance that one of those other sites will trigger a GFW ban is low... but not zero. Depending on the consequences of China downtime for your app, it might be a viable solution. You can probably get CF to regenerate the certificates and land you on a different IP if the old one ever gets blocked. Chances are it will never be an issue. Of course, this requires making your app full-time SSL. Which is not a bad idea. Jeff On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng ngk...@gmail.com wrote: before heard that there were access problem to GAE (ghs.google.com) from mainland china. would like to know latest status about this. now we hv domain mapped to GAE instance and seems some users from mainland china can access it without problems. but not sure if all users from different part of china can access, at anytime? also, any help if going through cloudfare? - eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] GAE access from mainland china and cloudfare
For sure, cloudfare will help. I'm simply using Amazon's EC2 and it works great for me. Yes, occasionally there are a few minutes glitches here and there, especially when there is a political freak show going on such as recently. Not ideal certainly but acceptable for my purpose. Don't know if that is alright for your business model. Best, Will On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng ngk...@gmail.com wrote: Thx Will for your input. so cloudfare is not going to help? - eric On 23 May 2012 01:16, Will vocalster@gmail.com wrote: GAE is still blocked in mainland China. The regime is constantly monitoring the network traffic and servers and taking actions whenever it sees fit. So I don't believe any simple method can claim access for 'all users' from 'all parts' at 'anytime'. If one server is deemed a 'threat', the whole DNS may be blocked, as is the case of GAE. Good luck, Will On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng ngk...@gmail.com wrote: before heard that there were access problem to GAE (ghs.google.com) from mainland china. would like to know latest status about this. now we hv domain mapped to GAE instance and seems some users from mainland china can access it without problems. but not sure if all users from different part of china can access, at anytime? also, any help if going through cloudfare? - eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
RE: [google-appengine] GAE access from mainland china and cloudfare
If you use CloudFlare you will be sad. You can put a Proxy/Squid on AWS and Use Route53 to do Geo-Balancing. CF often gets blocked by well... Pretty much everything because it is used by Pirates and Porn sites, and quite often you will share IP's with those. Plus CloudFlare will throw Captcha's to Google Bot and that will cause your site to get de-ranked if not de-listed. I used to make a lot of money cleaning up after CloudFlare. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
