Re: [google-appengine] HRD uses more datastore writes?
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Jason Collins jason.a.coll...@gmail.com wrote: I had a M-S app that was very regularly, daily, using around .73M datastore writes for a daily cost of around $0.68. I used the automatic migration tool to migrate this app to HRD. Now, it uses around 1.44M datastore writes for a daily cost of around $1.39 (or roughly double). Is this correct? Does the HRD really consume double the number of writes? Stray indexes? If you haven't deleted the old app yet you could compare the old and new using something like this: https://gist.github.com/715284 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] HRD uses more datastore writes?
Are you sure the writes are the same in both datastores? When looking here[1], gives me the impression that HR cost is bigger than MS. [1] http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/hr/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/Qo_NeUBQKdoJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] HRD uses more datastore writes?
I believe those costs are based on the old model, where datastore reads/writes were charged on a CPU basis. It sounds like Jason's increase is in actual write counts, which is relevant for the new pricing model. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/j3KmFkGZGKoJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] HRD uses more datastore writes?
You can sign up for the migration tool there: http://goo.gl/3jrXu. Hope that helps. On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Will vocalster@gmail.com wrote: Jason, Where is the automatic migration tool? I looked all places but couldn't find it. Is it the Copy to Another App button on the Datastore Admin page? Thanks, Will On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Jason Collins jason.a.coll...@gmail.com wrote: I had a M-S app that was very regularly, daily, using around .73M datastore writes for a daily cost of around $0.68. I used the automatic migration tool to migrate this app to HRD. Now, it uses around 1.44M datastore writes for a daily cost of around $1.39 (or roughly double). Is this correct? Does the HRD really consume double the number of writes? If so, given that the cost of HRD was dropped to be the same as M-S to encourage people to migrate, it's rather unfortunate. It could be that there's something else I'm not considering... j -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] HRD uses more datastore writes?
Thanks, Johan. On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Johan Euphrosine pro...@google.com wrote: You can sign up for the migration tool there: http://goo.gl/3jrXu. Hope that helps. On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Will vocalster@gmail.com wrote: Jason, Where is the automatic migration tool? I looked all places but couldn't find it. Is it the Copy to Another App button on the Datastore Admin page? Thanks, Will On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Jason Collins jason.a.coll...@gmail.com wrote: I had a M-S app that was very regularly, daily, using around .73M datastore writes for a daily cost of around $0.68. I used the automatic migration tool to migrate this app to HRD. Now, it uses around 1.44M datastore writes for a daily cost of around $1.39 (or roughly double). Is this correct? Does the HRD really consume double the number of writes? If so, given that the cost of HRD was dropped to be the same as M-S to encourage people to migrate, it's rather unfortunate. It could be that there's something else I'm not considering... j -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Johan Euphrosine (proppy) Developer Programs Engineer Google Developer Relations -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] HRD uses more datastore writes?
I had a M-S app that was very regularly, daily, using around .73M datastore writes for a daily cost of around $0.68. I used the automatic migration tool to migrate this app to HRD. Now, it uses around 1.44M datastore writes for a daily cost of around $1.39 (or roughly double). Is this correct? Does the HRD really consume double the number of writes? If so, given that the cost of HRD was dropped to be the same as M-S to encourage people to migrate, it's rather unfortunate. It could be that there's something else I'm not considering... j -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] HRD uses more datastore writes?
There is no difference between M/S and HRD with regards to write ops (i.e. given the same input, M/S and HRD report the exact same amount of writes). Something else must be different (traffic, existing entity values, etc). On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Jason Collins jason.a.coll...@gmail.comwrote: I had a M-S app that was very regularly, daily, using around .73M datastore writes for a daily cost of around $0.68. I used the automatic migration tool to migrate this app to HRD. Now, it uses around 1.44M datastore writes for a daily cost of around $1.39 (or roughly double). Is this correct? Does the HRD really consume double the number of writes? If so, given that the cost of HRD was dropped to be the same as M-S to encourage people to migrate, it's rather unfortunate. It could be that there's something else I'm not considering... j -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] HRD uses more datastore writes?
Jason, Where is the automatic migration tool? I looked all places but couldn't find it. Is it the Copy to Another App button on the Datastore Admin page? Thanks, Will On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Jason Collins jason.a.coll...@gmail.com wrote: I had a M-S app that was very regularly, daily, using around .73M datastore writes for a daily cost of around $0.68. I used the automatic migration tool to migrate this app to HRD. Now, it uses around 1.44M datastore writes for a daily cost of around $1.39 (or roughly double). Is this correct? Does the HRD really consume double the number of writes? If so, given that the cost of HRD was dropped to be the same as M-S to encourage people to migrate, it's rather unfortunate. It could be that there's something else I'm not considering... j -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
