[google-appengine] Re: Another perspective on the upcoming datastore prices

2011-09-23 Thread Alex Epshteyn
Correction: my math is probably off by a factor of about 10 on the
AdSense revenue estimate, and I apologize for my quickness in jumping
to my conclusion.

But still, we're talking about some pretty narrow margins here.


On Sep 23, 1:58 pm, Alex Epshteyn alexander.epsht...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Consider an average dynamic page in any web application.  It might do
 one entity write and fetch a small result set.  Under the new GAE
 billing model, this might cost 25 Write Ops, and 21 Read Ops (a pretty
 conservative estimate).

 Those amount to ~ $40 per million page views, which is more than the
 average revenue from Google AdSense for the same million pageviews!

 There's something really wrong with this picture.  The reason AdSense
 does so well is that web hosting in this day and age costs a lot less
 than what AdSense earns.  But now GAE hosting is about to cost much
 more than what AdSense earns (and so far I only counted just the
 datastore ops, so the true costs might be 2-3x higher than $40 per
 million pageviews).

 The bottom line: developers will be losing money by hosting an ad-
 supported application on GAE!

 What's going on here? Google App Engine was supposed to be more cost-
 effective than the alternatives, but these new prices seem to be
 totally out of whack with the reality of current web economics.

 To the management at Google who came up with these prices: please
 consider consulting the AdSense team before these prices go into
 effect!

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Another perspective on the upcoming datastore prices

2011-09-23 Thread Timofey Koolin
In GAE you must cache often used data in memcache to reduce cost and
latency.

2011/9/23 Alex Epshteyn alexander.epsht...@gmail.com

 Correction: my math is probably off by a factor of about 10 on the
 AdSense revenue estimate, and I apologize for my quickness in jumping
 to my conclusion.

 But still, we're talking about some pretty narrow margins here.


 On Sep 23, 1:58 pm, Alex Epshteyn alexander.epsht...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Consider an average dynamic page in any web application.  It might do
  one entity write and fetch a small result set.  Under the new GAE
  billing model, this might cost 25 Write Ops, and 21 Read Ops (a pretty
  conservative estimate).
 
  Those amount to ~ $40 per million page views, which is more than the
  average revenue from Google AdSense for the same million pageviews!
 
  There's something really wrong with this picture.  The reason AdSense
  does so well is that web hosting in this day and age costs a lot less
  than what AdSense earns.  But now GAE hosting is about to cost much
  more than what AdSense earns (and so far I only counted just the
  datastore ops, so the true costs might be 2-3x higher than $40 per
  million pageviews).
 
  The bottom line: developers will be losing money by hosting an ad-
  supported application on GAE!
 
  What's going on here? Google App Engine was supposed to be more cost-
  effective than the alternatives, but these new prices seem to be
  totally out of whack with the reality of current web economics.
 
  To the management at Google who came up with these prices: please
  consider consulting the AdSense team before these prices go into
  effect!

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