Re: [google-appengine] Re: Datastore Admin Issue - Backup - Namespaces
Hi aswath We are working on sending this more generic request up. Basically we intend to have every place where namespace is accessible to be the same kind of suggestion box as the Admin. Thank you for your feedback, it is always appreciated, and we try to improve our services with it, so thank you for sending it :). As for Dataflow, I have to be honest I haven't explored it that much. I'd assume that you build your datastore reader with queries, and it should be possible to target specific namespaces. Cheers! On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 12:57:35 AM UTC-4, aswath wrote: Hi Patrice, A request for enhancement. Doing cron is fine, however, it is still a workaround. It can be done in the Datastore Viewer style. Please give a suggestbox style, instead of listing 250 namespaces, as this not really useful, if you are dealing with large namespaces. I have updated the issue also. My humble request to the appengine team. Please treat namespaces on par with default namespace. It should be supported in all tools and utilities with the same ease as the default namespace. On the same topic of namespaces, I just wanted to say that production apps experience difficulties because of the namespaces not supported well in all parts of the appengine. The biggest hurdle is in doing the migration/scheme change for the entities. Mapreduce lacks documentation for namespaces with no clear examples to handle large number namespaces. If anyone has done mapreduce for large number of namespaces, request to share tips or examples. Continuing.. I don't know much about Google Cloud Dataflow, does Google Cloud dataflow support namespaces? Thanks a lot. Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) pvoutsi...@google.com wrote: Hi again, So, as you can see on the linked issue, this is actually expected behavior, to make sure that the query retrieving your namespaces doesn't time out, we limit the results. If you need to have a namespace backed up that you cannot find, you will have to use cron jobs for scheduled backups. Cheers! On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 10:47:55 AM UTC-4, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) wrote: Hi Alejandro, thank you for letting me know. See that makes a little bit more sense that it simply shows the first X. Not exactly expected behavior, but more logical than what I thought was happening at first. In any case, that seems to be a defect within the admin console. I therefore went ahead and created this issue, as the proper place to report defects is the public issue tracker. I would suggest for you two to star the issue so you can get updated when there`s progress. Cheers! On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 4:40:05 AM UTC-4, Alejandro Gonzalez wrote: Hello Patrice, I checked this, and i have the same problem as Aswath. I have an application with a lot of namespaces, and the namespace dropdown is only showing the first 250 namespaces. For the round number it seems like there is a limit on the number of namespaces displayed. Thanks. Alejandro. 2015-06-03 9:29 GMT+02:00 Aswath Satrasala aswath.satras...@gmail.com: Hello, My appid: accountingguru-india Namespace: sarahfoodspvtltd-kumarharikant-sarahfoods.com The kinds, I want to backup are in that namespace, but I could have selected other kinds also (in the previous screen), that may not yet be in that namespace. A whole bunch of namespaces are missing in the dropdown selection. The namespaces starting after 'BIS..' are not displayed. Attached is the screen shot, of the namespace dropdown selection -Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) pvoutsi...@google.com wrote: Hi Aswath. We'd need a bit more details to be able to help you here. Are you sure that the namespace you want to backup isn't part of another application's datastore? Are the kinds you are backing up in that namespace? I've tried different combinations, and everything seemed to have worked fine. If you could add print screens, both showing that the kinds are in the requested namespace, and of the page not showing you the namespace, it would be helpful in troubleshooting further Cheers On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 8:14:58 AM UTC-4, aswath wrote: Hello, I am trying to do backup of a Namespace, however, I cannot select the namespace. I am doing the following in the appengine console (old) * Click on the Datastore Admin * Select the KINDS * Click on the 'Backup Entities' * In the next screen, I am trying to choose the namespace. However, there are only few namespaces displayed. I cannot select the namespace, I wanted. -Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net. --
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Datastore Admin Issue - Backup - Namespaces
Hi Patrice, A request for enhancement. Doing cron is fine, however, it is still a workaround. It can be done in the Datastore Viewer style. Please give a suggestbox style, instead of listing 250 namespaces, as this not really useful, if you are dealing with large namespaces. I have updated the issue also. My humble request to the appengine team. Please treat namespaces on par with default namespace. It should be supported in all tools and utilities with the same ease as the default namespace. On the same topic of namespaces, I just wanted to say that production apps experience difficulties because of the namespaces not supported well in all parts of the appengine. The biggest hurdle is in doing the migration/scheme change for the entities. Mapreduce lacks documentation for namespaces with no clear examples to handle large number namespaces. If anyone has done mapreduce for large number of namespaces, request to share tips or examples. Continuing.. I don't know much about Google Cloud Dataflow, does Google Cloud dataflow support namespaces? Thanks a lot. Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) pvoutsi...@google.com wrote: Hi again, So, as you can see on the linked issue, this is actually expected behavior, to make sure that the query retrieving your namespaces doesn't time out, we limit the results. If you need to have a namespace backed up that you cannot find, you will have to use cron jobs for scheduled backups. Cheers! On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 10:47:55 AM UTC-4, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) wrote: Hi Alejandro, thank you for letting me know. See that makes a little bit more sense that it simply shows the first X. Not exactly expected behavior, but more logical than what I thought was happening at first. In any case, that seems to be a defect within the admin console. I therefore went ahead and created this issue, as the proper place to report defects is the public issue tracker. I would suggest for you two to star the issue so you can get updated when there`s progress. Cheers! On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 4:40:05 AM UTC-4, Alejandro Gonzalez wrote: Hello Patrice, I checked this, and i have the same problem as Aswath. I have an application with a lot of namespaces, and the namespace dropdown is only showing the first 250 namespaces. For the round number it seems like there is a limit on the number of namespaces displayed. Thanks. Alejandro. 2015-06-03 9:29 GMT+02:00 Aswath Satrasala aswath.satras...@gmail.com: Hello, My appid: accountingguru-india Namespace: sarahfoodspvtltd-kumarharikant-sarahfoods.com The kinds, I want to backup are in that namespace, but I could have selected other kinds also (in the previous screen), that may not yet be in that namespace. A whole bunch of namespaces are missing in the dropdown selection. The namespaces starting after 'BIS..' are not displayed. Attached is the screen shot, of the namespace dropdown selection -Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) pvoutsi...@google.com wrote: Hi Aswath. We'd need a bit more details to be able to help you here. Are you sure that the namespace you want to backup isn't part of another application's datastore? Are the kinds you are backing up in that namespace? I've tried different combinations, and everything seemed to have worked fine. If you could add print screens, both showing that the kinds are in the requested namespace, and of the page not showing you the namespace, it would be helpful in troubleshooting further Cheers On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 8:14:58 AM UTC-4, aswath wrote: Hello, I am trying to do backup of a Namespace, however, I cannot select the namespace. I am doing the following in the appengine console (old) * Click on the Datastore Admin * Select the KINDS * Click on the 'Backup Entities' * In the next screen, I am trying to choose the namespace. However, there are only few namespaces displayed. I cannot select the namespace, I wanted. -Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CAKFF5G5wRCY_t4xwSz-P_Fxhv2r6sQ%3DoUTj-8UvGNOuC814rXA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Datastore Admin Issue - Backup - Namespaces
Hello Patrice, I checked this, and i have the same problem as Aswath. I have an application with a lot of namespaces, and the namespace dropdown is only showing the first 250 namespaces. For the round number it seems like there is a limit on the number of namespaces displayed. Thanks. Alejandro. 2015-06-03 9:29 GMT+02:00 Aswath Satrasala aswath.satras...@gmail.com: Hello, My appid: accountingguru-india Namespace: sarahfoodspvtltd-kumarharikant-sarahfoods.com The kinds, I want to backup are in that namespace, but I could have selected other kinds also (in the previous screen), that may not yet be in that namespace. A whole bunch of namespaces are missing in the dropdown selection. The namespaces starting after 'BIS..' are not displayed. Attached is the screen shot, of the namespace dropdown selection -Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) pvoutsi...@google.com wrote: Hi Aswath. We'd need a bit more details to be able to help you here. Are you sure that the namespace you want to backup isn't part of another application's datastore? Are the kinds you are backing up in that namespace? I've tried different combinations, and everything seemed to have worked fine. If you could add print screens, both showing that the kinds are in the requested namespace, and of the page not showing you the namespace, it would be helpful in troubleshooting further Cheers On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 8:14:58 AM UTC-4, aswath wrote: Hello, I am trying to do backup of a Namespace, however, I cannot select the namespace. I am doing the following in the appengine console (old) * Click on the Datastore Admin * Select the KINDS * Click on the 'Backup Entities' * In the next screen, I am trying to choose the namespace. However, there are only few namespaces displayed. I cannot select the namespace, I wanted. -Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CAKFF5G5wRCY_t4xwSz-P_Fxhv2r6sQ%3DoUTj-8UvGNOuC814rXA%40mail.gmail.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CAKFF5G5wRCY_t4xwSz-P_Fxhv2r6sQ%3DoUTj-8UvGNOuC814rXA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CAM5QdGd1urcx_MtD09Vvbmu1rYfXwUauErZ623-_6Fr7gyJ5_g%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Datastore Admin Issue - Backup - Namespaces
Hi Alejandro, thank you for letting me know. See that makes a little bit more sense that it simply shows the first X. Not exactly expected behavior, but more logical than what I thought was happening at first. In any case, that seems to be a defect within the admin console. I therefore went ahead and created this issue https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=12019, as the proper place to report defects is the public issue tracker. I would suggest for you two to star the issue so you can get updated when there`s progress. Cheers! On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 4:40:05 AM UTC-4, Alejandro Gonzalez wrote: Hello Patrice, I checked this, and i have the same problem as Aswath. I have an application with a lot of namespaces, and the namespace dropdown is only showing the first 250 namespaces. For the round number it seems like there is a limit on the number of namespaces displayed. Thanks. Alejandro. 2015-06-03 9:29 GMT+02:00 Aswath Satrasala aswath.satras...@gmail.com: Hello, My appid: accountingguru-india Namespace: sarahfoodspvtltd-kumarharikant-sarahfoods.com The kinds, I want to backup are in that namespace, but I could have selected other kinds also (in the previous screen), that may not yet be in that namespace. A whole bunch of namespaces are missing in the dropdown selection. The namespaces starting after 'BIS..' are not displayed. Attached is the screen shot, of the namespace dropdown selection -Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) pvoutsi...@google.com wrote: Hi Aswath. We'd need a bit more details to be able to help you here. Are you sure that the namespace you want to backup isn't part of another application's datastore? Are the kinds you are backing up in that namespace? I've tried different combinations, and everything seemed to have worked fine. If you could add print screens, both showing that the kinds are in the requested namespace, and of the page not showing you the namespace, it would be helpful in troubleshooting further Cheers On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 8:14:58 AM UTC-4, aswath wrote: Hello, I am trying to do backup of a Namespace, however, I cannot select the namespace. I am doing the following in the appengine console (old) * Click on the Datastore Admin * Select the KINDS * Click on the 'Backup Entities' * In the next screen, I am trying to choose the namespace. However, there are only few namespaces displayed. I cannot select the namespace, I wanted. -Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CAKFF5G5wRCY_t4xwSz-P_Fxhv2r6sQ%3DoUTj-8UvGNOuC814rXA%40mail.gmail.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CAKFF5G5wRCY_t4xwSz-P_Fxhv2r6sQ%3DoUTj-8UvGNOuC814rXA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/afc2581c-4c20-411a-9c24-46457afa5c72%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Datastore Admin Issue - Backup - Namespaces
Hi again, So, as you can see on the linked issue, this is actually expected behavior, to make sure that the query retrieving your namespaces doesn't time out, we limit the results. If you need to have a namespace backed up that you cannot find, you will have to use cron jobs for scheduled backups https://cloud.google.com/appengine/articles/scheduled_backups. Cheers! On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 10:47:55 AM UTC-4, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) wrote: Hi Alejandro, thank you for letting me know. See that makes a little bit more sense that it simply shows the first X. Not exactly expected behavior, but more logical than what I thought was happening at first. In any case, that seems to be a defect within the admin console. I therefore went ahead and created this issue https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=12019, as the proper place to report defects is the public issue tracker. I would suggest for you two to star the issue so you can get updated when there`s progress. Cheers! On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 4:40:05 AM UTC-4, Alejandro Gonzalez wrote: Hello Patrice, I checked this, and i have the same problem as Aswath. I have an application with a lot of namespaces, and the namespace dropdown is only showing the first 250 namespaces. For the round number it seems like there is a limit on the number of namespaces displayed. Thanks. Alejandro. 2015-06-03 9:29 GMT+02:00 Aswath Satrasala aswath.satras...@gmail.com: Hello, My appid: accountingguru-india Namespace: sarahfoodspvtltd-kumarharikant-sarahfoods.com The kinds, I want to backup are in that namespace, but I could have selected other kinds also (in the previous screen), that may not yet be in that namespace. A whole bunch of namespaces are missing in the dropdown selection. The namespaces starting after 'BIS..' are not displayed. Attached is the screen shot, of the namespace dropdown selection -Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) pvoutsi...@google.com wrote: Hi Aswath. We'd need a bit more details to be able to help you here. Are you sure that the namespace you want to backup isn't part of another application's datastore? Are the kinds you are backing up in that namespace? I've tried different combinations, and everything seemed to have worked fine. If you could add print screens, both showing that the kinds are in the requested namespace, and of the page not showing you the namespace, it would be helpful in troubleshooting further Cheers On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 8:14:58 AM UTC-4, aswath wrote: Hello, I am trying to do backup of a Namespace, however, I cannot select the namespace. I am doing the following in the appengine console (old) * Click on the Datastore Admin * Select the KINDS * Click on the 'Backup Entities' * In the next screen, I am trying to choose the namespace. However, there are only few namespaces displayed. I cannot select the namespace, I wanted. -Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CAKFF5G5wRCY_t4xwSz-P_Fxhv2r6sQ%3DoUTj-8UvGNOuC814rXA%40mail.gmail.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CAKFF5G5wRCY_t4xwSz-P_Fxhv2r6sQ%3DoUTj-8UvGNOuC814rXA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/ead52dd0-e013-4583-8d74-d8c63d3c3cce%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[google-appengine] Re: Datastore Admin Issue - Backup - Namespaces
Hi Aswath. We'd need a bit more details to be able to help you here. Are you sure that the namespace you want to backup isn't part of another application's datastore? Are the kinds you are backing up in that namespace? I've tried different combinations, and everything seemed to have worked fine. If you could add print screens, both showing that the kinds are in the requested namespace, and of the page not showing you the namespace, it would be helpful in troubleshooting further Cheers On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 8:14:58 AM UTC-4, aswath wrote: Hello, I am trying to do backup of a Namespace, however, I cannot select the namespace. I am doing the following in the appengine console (old) * Click on the Datastore Admin * Select the KINDS * Click on the 'Backup Entities' * In the next screen, I am trying to choose the namespace. However, there are only few namespaces displayed. I cannot select the namespace, I wanted. -Aswath www.AccountingGuru.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/99e9ec3b-296e-4a14-8b3b-cf39b5732c20%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
