Re: [google-appengine] Re: Deleted default Google Cloud Storage bucket, unable to recreate

2015-11-01 Thread bb b 
Filed https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=12502 for 
the issue specific to Managed VMs.

On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 3:08:01 AM UTC-8, bb b wrote:
>
> Reviving this thread... Is there a tracker for this issue?
>
> I ran into a different version of this: I accidentally deleted the 
> staging..appspot.com bucket used by the Managed VM deployment 
> process (gcloud preview app deploy) and I can't recreate it; further 
> invocations of "gcloud preview app deploy" fail when trying to add files to 
> this bucket. As far as I know there's no way to change the staging bucket 
> used by that deployment process, so it would seem that I can't use Managed 
> VM in this project anymore. :-(
>
> +1 to Jeff Schnitzer's "it's just very bad practice to have buttons that, 
> when accidentally clicked, wedge the application into a state that cannot 
> be recovered without spending engineering resources on changing the 
> deployment process"
>
>
> On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 8:55:48 PM UTC-7, Chris Ramsdale wrote:
>>
>> well, this isn't cool.  let me look into what's going on here and see if 
>> we can add a fix.  at minimum, we shouldn't allow you to delete the default 
>> bucket (we use if for other services) and get yourself into a horked state. 
>>  -- Chris
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Sean Lynch  wrote:
>>
>>> While GCS is very cheap, the default bucket is free up to 5GB and more 
>>> importantly, does not require billing to be enabled. I just ported an 
>>> application using the deprecated google.appengine.ext.files API to GCS but 
>>> now I'll need to enable billing to restore this file upload functionality 
>>> for their application. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, 6:20 PM Jeff Schnitzer  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 While I haven't made this particular mistake, it's actually kind of a 
 big deal. We deploy the same code to acceptance, staging, etc 
 environments. 
 Using the default bucket means we don't have to set up buckets by hand for 
 each of those environments. Before you say "that's not a big deal", the 
 entire career of devops exists because there are a thousand "no big deals" 
 required to set up and run environments. GAE's primary value proposition 
 is 
 "no devops".

 Also, it's just very bad practice to have buttons that, when 
 accidentally clicked, wedge the application into a state that cannot be 
 recovered without spending engineering resources on changing the 
 deployment 
 process.

 I would star this issue.

 Jeff

 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) <
 pvout...@google.com> wrote:

> Hi Sean,
>
> Unfortunately, no there is no way to re-create the default bucket if 
> you deleted it. 
>
> I don't see why you really need the default one though... can't you 
> use any other bucket, since they have the exact same behavior as the 
> default ones?
>
> If you really need to use the default one, yes unfortunately the only 
> way to do so is to re-create a new app, but again, I don't see why you 
> need 
> to take the default one, when you can just create a new one.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-4, Sean Lynch wrote:
>>
>> While attempting to get the ACL setup correctly on the default Google 
>> Cloud Storage bucket (APPID.appspot.com), I deleted this default 
>> bucket but now I see no way to recreate it.  
>>
>> Under Cloud Integration on the old App Engine console, I now see "The 
>> project was created successfully. See the Basics section for more 
>> details." 
>> instead of the create button.  At the top of Application Settings I see 
>> Google 
>> Cloud Storage Bucket: APPID.appspot.com but clicking the link 
>> returns "A required resource is not available".
>>
>> I tried to manually recreate the GCS bucket under the new Cloud 
>> console, but get the error:
>>
>>> Note that a bucket name may only contain a dot if it is a valid 
>>> domain name, such as "example.com" or "sub.example.com". You will 
>>> need to demonstrate that you are an owner or manager of this domain 
>>> before 
>>> creating the bucket.
>>
>>
>> I'd rather not create a new application to replace this one.  How can 
>> I recreate the default bucket? 
>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Deleted default Google Cloud Storage bucket, unable to recreate

2015-11-01 Thread bb b 
Reviving this thread... Is there a tracker for this issue?

I ran into a different version of this: I accidentally deleted the 
staging..appspot.com bucket used by the Managed VM deployment 
process (gcloud preview app deploy) and I can't recreate it; further 
invocations of "gcloud preview app deploy" fail when trying to add files to 
this bucket. As far as I know there's no way to change the staging bucket 
used by that deployment process, so it would seem that I can't use Managed 
VM in this project anymore. :-(

+1 to Jeff Schnitzer's "it's just very bad practice to have buttons that, 
when accidentally clicked, wedge the application into a state that cannot 
be recovered without spending engineering resources on changing the 
deployment process"


On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 8:55:48 PM UTC-7, Chris Ramsdale wrote:
>
> well, this isn't cool.  let me look into what's going on here and see if 
> we can add a fix.  at minimum, we shouldn't allow you to delete the default 
> bucket (we use if for other services) and get yourself into a horked state. 
>  -- Chris
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Sean Lynch  > wrote:
>
>> While GCS is very cheap, the default bucket is free up to 5GB and more 
>> importantly, does not require billing to be enabled. I just ported an 
>> application using the deprecated google.appengine.ext.files API to GCS but 
>> now I'll need to enable billing to restore this file upload functionality 
>> for their application. 
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, 6:20 PM Jeff Schnitzer > > wrote:
>>
>>> While I haven't made this particular mistake, it's actually kind of a 
>>> big deal. We deploy the same code to acceptance, staging, etc environments. 
>>> Using the default bucket means we don't have to set up buckets by hand for 
>>> each of those environments. Before you say "that's not a big deal", the 
>>> entire career of devops exists because there are a thousand "no big deals" 
>>> required to set up and run environments. GAE's primary value proposition is 
>>> "no devops".
>>>
>>> Also, it's just very bad practice to have buttons that, when 
>>> accidentally clicked, wedge the application into a state that cannot be 
>>> recovered without spending engineering resources on changing the deployment 
>>> process.
>>>
>>> I would star this issue.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) <
>>> pvout...@google.com > wrote:
>>>
 Hi Sean,

 Unfortunately, no there is no way to re-create the default bucket if 
 you deleted it. 

 I don't see why you really need the default one though... can't you use 
 any other bucket, since they have the exact same behavior as the default 
 ones?

 If you really need to use the default one, yes unfortunately the only 
 way to do so is to re-create a new app, but again, I don't see why you 
 need 
 to take the default one, when you can just create a new one.

 Cheers!


 On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-4, Sean Lynch wrote:
>
> While attempting to get the ACL setup correctly on the default Google 
> Cloud Storage bucket (APPID.appspot.com), I deleted this default 
> bucket but now I see no way to recreate it.  
>
> Under Cloud Integration on the old App Engine console, I now see "The 
> project was created successfully. See the Basics section for more 
> details." 
> instead of the create button.  At the top of Application Settings I see 
> Google 
> Cloud Storage Bucket: APPID.appspot.com but clicking the link returns 
> "A required resource is not available".
>
> I tried to manually recreate the GCS bucket under the new Cloud 
> console, but get the error:
>
>> Note that a bucket name may only contain a dot if it is a valid 
>> domain name, such as "example.com" or "sub.example.com". You will 
>> need to demonstrate that you are an owner or manager of this domain 
>> before 
>> creating the bucket.
>
>
> I'd rather not create a new application to replace this one.  How can 
> I recreate the default bucket? 
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Deleted default Google Cloud Storage bucket, unable to recreate

2015-06-08 Thread 'Chris Ramsdale' via Google App Engine 
well, this isn't cool.  let me look into what's going on here and see if we
can add a fix.  at minimum, we shouldn't allow you to delete the default
bucket (we use if for other services) and get yourself into a horked state.
 -- Chris

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Sean Lynch  wrote:

> While GCS is very cheap, the default bucket is free up to 5GB and more
> importantly, does not require billing to be enabled. I just ported an
> application using the deprecated google.appengine.ext.files API to GCS but
> now I'll need to enable billing to restore this file upload functionality
> for their application.
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, 6:20 PM Jeff Schnitzer  wrote:
>
>> While I haven't made this particular mistake, it's actually kind of a big
>> deal. We deploy the same code to acceptance, staging, etc environments.
>> Using the default bucket means we don't have to set up buckets by hand for
>> each of those environments. Before you say "that's not a big deal", the
>> entire career of devops exists because there are a thousand "no big deals"
>> required to set up and run environments. GAE's primary value proposition is
>> "no devops".
>>
>> Also, it's just very bad practice to have buttons that, when accidentally
>> clicked, wedge the application into a state that cannot be recovered
>> without spending engineering resources on changing the deployment process.
>>
>> I would star this issue.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) <
>> pvoutsi...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sean,
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, no there is no way to re-create the default bucket if you
>>> deleted it.
>>>
>>> I don't see why you really need the default one though... can't you use
>>> any other bucket, since they have the exact same behavior as the default
>>> ones?
>>>
>>> If you really need to use the default one, yes unfortunately the only
>>> way to do so is to re-create a new app, but again, I don't see why you need
>>> to take the default one, when you can just create a new one.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-4, Sean Lynch wrote:

 While attempting to get the ACL setup correctly on the default Google
 Cloud Storage bucket (APPID.appspot.com), I deleted this default
 bucket but now I see no way to recreate it.

 Under Cloud Integration on the old App Engine console, I now see "The
 project was created successfully. See the Basics section for more details."
 instead of the create button.  At the top of Application Settings I see 
 Google
 Cloud Storage Bucket: APPID.appspot.com but clicking the link returns
 "A required resource is not available".

 I tried to manually recreate the GCS bucket under the new Cloud
 console, but get the error:

> Note that a bucket name may only contain a dot if it is a valid domain
> name, such as "example.com" or "sub.example.com". You will need to
> demonstrate that you are an owner or manager of this domain before 
> creating
> the bucket.


 I'd rather not create a new application to replace this one.  How can I
 recreate the default bucket?

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Deleted default Google Cloud Storage bucket, unable to recreate

2015-06-08 Thread Sean Lynch 
While GCS is very cheap, the default bucket is free up to 5GB and more
importantly, does not require billing to be enabled. I just ported an
application using the deprecated google.appengine.ext.files API to GCS but
now I'll need to enable billing to restore this file upload functionality
for their application.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015, 6:20 PM Jeff Schnitzer  wrote:

> While I haven't made this particular mistake, it's actually kind of a big
> deal. We deploy the same code to acceptance, staging, etc environments.
> Using the default bucket means we don't have to set up buckets by hand for
> each of those environments. Before you say "that's not a big deal", the
> entire career of devops exists because there are a thousand "no big deals"
> required to set up and run environments. GAE's primary value proposition is
> "no devops".
>
> Also, it's just very bad practice to have buttons that, when accidentally
> clicked, wedge the application into a state that cannot be recovered
> without spending engineering resources on changing the deployment process.
>
> I would star this issue.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) <
> pvoutsi...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sean,
>>
>> Unfortunately, no there is no way to re-create the default bucket if you
>> deleted it.
>>
>> I don't see why you really need the default one though... can't you use
>> any other bucket, since they have the exact same behavior as the default
>> ones?
>>
>> If you really need to use the default one, yes unfortunately the only way
>> to do so is to re-create a new app, but again, I don't see why you need to
>> take the default one, when you can just create a new one.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-4, Sean Lynch wrote:
>>>
>>> While attempting to get the ACL setup correctly on the default Google
>>> Cloud Storage bucket (APPID.appspot.com), I deleted this default bucket
>>> but now I see no way to recreate it.
>>>
>>> Under Cloud Integration on the old App Engine console, I now see "The
>>> project was created successfully. See the Basics section for more details."
>>> instead of the create button.  At the top of Application Settings I see 
>>> Google
>>> Cloud Storage Bucket: APPID.appspot.com but clicking the link returns
>>> "A required resource is not available".
>>>
>>> I tried to manually recreate the GCS bucket under the new Cloud console,
>>> but get the error:
>>>
 Note that a bucket name may only contain a dot if it is a valid domain
 name, such as "example.com" or "sub.example.com". You will need to
 demonstrate that you are an owner or manager of this domain before creating
 the bucket.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd rather not create a new application to replace this one.  How can I
>>> recreate the default bucket?
>>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Deleted default Google Cloud Storage bucket, unable to recreate

2015-06-08 Thread Jeff Schnitzer 
While I haven't made this particular mistake, it's actually kind of a big
deal. We deploy the same code to acceptance, staging, etc environments.
Using the default bucket means we don't have to set up buckets by hand for
each of those environments. Before you say "that's not a big deal", the
entire career of devops exists because there are a thousand "no big deals"
required to set up and run environments. GAE's primary value proposition is
"no devops".

Also, it's just very bad practice to have buttons that, when accidentally
clicked, wedge the application into a state that cannot be recovered
without spending engineering resources on changing the deployment process.

I would star this issue.

Jeff

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) <
pvoutsi...@google.com> wrote:

> Hi Sean,
>
> Unfortunately, no there is no way to re-create the default bucket if you
> deleted it.
>
> I don't see why you really need the default one though... can't you use
> any other bucket, since they have the exact same behavior as the default
> ones?
>
> If you really need to use the default one, yes unfortunately the only way
> to do so is to re-create a new app, but again, I don't see why you need to
> take the default one, when you can just create a new one.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-4, Sean Lynch wrote:
>>
>> While attempting to get the ACL setup correctly on the default Google
>> Cloud Storage bucket (APPID.appspot.com), I deleted this default bucket
>> but now I see no way to recreate it.
>>
>> Under Cloud Integration on the old App Engine console, I now see "The
>> project was created successfully. See the Basics section for more details."
>> instead of the create button.  At the top of Application Settings I see 
>> Google
>> Cloud Storage Bucket: APPID.appspot.com but clicking the link returns "A
>> required resource is not available".
>>
>> I tried to manually recreate the GCS bucket under the new Cloud console,
>> but get the error:
>>
>>> Note that a bucket name may only contain a dot if it is a valid domain
>>> name, such as "example.com" or "sub.example.com". You will need to
>>> demonstrate that you are an owner or manager of this domain before creating
>>> the bucket.
>>
>>
>> I'd rather not create a new application to replace this one.  How can I
>> recreate the default bucket?
>>
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[google-appengine] Re: Deleted default Google Cloud Storage bucket, unable to recreate

2015-06-08 Thread Patrice (Cloud Platform Support) 
Hi Sean,

Unfortunately, no there is no way to re-create the default bucket if you 
deleted it. 

I don't see why you really need the default one though... can't you use any 
other bucket, since they have the exact same behavior as the default ones?

If you really need to use the default one, yes unfortunately the only way 
to do so is to re-create a new app, but again, I don't see why you need to 
take the default one, when you can just create a new one.

Cheers!

On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 4:00:39 PM UTC-4, Sean Lynch wrote:
>
> While attempting to get the ACL setup correctly on the default Google 
> Cloud Storage bucket (APPID.appspot.com), I deleted this default bucket 
> but now I see no way to recreate it.  
>
> Under Cloud Integration on the old App Engine console, I now see "The 
> project was created successfully. See the Basics section for more details." 
> instead of the create button.  At the top of Application Settings I see 
> Google 
> Cloud Storage Bucket: APPID.appspot.com but clicking the link returns "A 
> required resource is not available".
>
> I tried to manually recreate the GCS bucket under the new Cloud console, 
> but get the error:
>
>> Note that a bucket name may only contain a dot if it is a valid domain 
>> name, such as "example.com" or "sub.example.com". You will need to 
>> demonstrate that you are an owner or manager of this domain before creating 
>> the bucket.
>
>
> I'd rather not create a new application to replace this one.  How can I 
> recreate the default bucket? 
>

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