Re: [google-appengine] Re: Django on AppEngine, django-rocket-engine

2012-05-05 Thread Sebastian Pawlus
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Will vocalster@gmail.com wrote:
 What does it differ from the django provided by GAE, such as django 1.2 with
 Python 2.7?

Rather than alternative to GAE SDK (with Django 1.3 now) this library
tries to support SDK with simple helper stuff that you need to write
anyway, one way or another.

 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:45 PM, John Gardner hux...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you haven't seen app-engine-patch (the ancestor of django-nonrel), you
 should take a look.
 https://github.com/huxoll/app-engine-patch

 It's also mostly Django, but with the backend as entirely GAE.

To be honest I've seen this library. I've spent some time recently
developing quite a big project with django + django-nonrel. My opinion
is that non-relational databases on the top of the relational ORM just
don't work. You can use them for fairly simple things but when comes
to slightly advance usage you will end up with problems and
limitations. It's even worse when your background is Django
development with SQL databases you will see them really quickly. I'm
not saying that GAE storage is bad. Django ORM + GAE storage is bad
idea.

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[google-appengine] Re: Django on AppEngine, django-rocket-engine

2012-05-04 Thread John Gardner
If you haven't seen app-engine-patch (the ancestor of django-nonrel), you 
should take a look.
https://github.com/huxoll/app-engine-patch

It's also mostly Django, but with the backend as entirely GAE.

Regards,
John

On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 4:43:26 PM UTC-5, x_O wrote:

 Hi 

 I'm quite new in AppEngine development but was using Django for few 
 years now. I've found that setup described in docs is not like django 
 that I got used to. So I decided to write small helper library to 
 bring django AppEngine usage as close as possible to 'normal' (in 
 subjective way) django usage that I got used to. Project is more like 
 prof-of-concept than stable library that you should use on production. 
 But since I'm using this for my small projects maybe someone will find 
 this useful as well. 

 http://django-rocket-engine.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html 
 with an example application: 
 https://github.com/xando/rocket-project 
 http://xando-1.appspot.com/ 

 Project was highly inspired by work done in djangoappengine of All 
 Button Pressed, but since that project was dedicated to work with 
 django-nonrel, I decided to write my own and focus only on Google 
 CloudSQL. 

 Thanks 
 seba 


On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 4:43:26 PM UTC-5, x_O wrote:

 Hi 

 I'm quite new in AppEngine development but was using Django for few 
 years now. I've found that setup described in docs is not like django 
 that I got used to. So I decided to write small helper library to 
 bring django AppEngine usage as close as possible to 'normal' (in 
 subjective way) django usage that I got used to. Project is more like 
 prof-of-concept than stable library that you should use on production. 
 But since I'm using this for my small projects maybe someone will find 
 this useful as well. 

 http://django-rocket-engine.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html 
 with an example application: 
 https://github.com/xando/rocket-project 
 http://xando-1.appspot.com/ 

 Project was highly inspired by work done in djangoappengine of All 
 Button Pressed, but since that project was dedicated to work with 
 django-nonrel, I decided to write my own and focus only on Google 
 CloudSQL. 

 Thanks 
 seba 


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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Django on AppEngine, django-rocket-engine

2012-05-04 Thread Will
What does it differ from the django provided by GAE, such as django 1.2
with Python 2.7?

Thanks,

Will

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:45 PM, John Gardner hux...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you haven't seen app-engine-patch (the ancestor of django-nonrel), you
 should take a look.
 https://github.com/huxoll/app-engine-patch

 It's also mostly Django, but with the backend as entirely GAE.

 Regards,
 John

 On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 4:43:26 PM UTC-5, x_O wrote:

 Hi

 I'm quite new in AppEngine development but was using Django for few
 years now. I've found that setup described in docs is not like django
 that I got used to. So I decided to write small helper library to
 bring django AppEngine usage as close as possible to 'normal' (in
 subjective way) django usage that I got used to. Project is more like
 prof-of-concept than stable library that you should use on production.
 But since I'm using this for my small projects maybe someone will find
 this useful as well.

 http://django-rocket-engine.**readthedocs.org/en/latest/**index.htmlhttp://django-rocket-engine.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html
 with an example application:
 https://github.com/xando/**rocket-projecthttps://github.com/xando/rocket-project
 http://xando-1.appspot.com/

 Project was highly inspired by work done in djangoappengine of All
 Button Pressed, but since that project was dedicated to work with
 django-nonrel, I decided to write my own and focus only on Google
 CloudSQL.

 Thanks
 seba


 On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 4:43:26 PM UTC-5, x_O wrote:

 Hi

 I'm quite new in AppEngine development but was using Django for few
 years now. I've found that setup described in docs is not like django
 that I got used to. So I decided to write small helper library to
 bring django AppEngine usage as close as possible to 'normal' (in
 subjective way) django usage that I got used to. Project is more like
 prof-of-concept than stable library that you should use on production.
 But since I'm using this for my small projects maybe someone will find
 this useful as well.

 http://django-rocket-engine.**readthedocs.org/en/latest/**index.htmlhttp://django-rocket-engine.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html
 with an example application:
 https://github.com/xando/**rocket-projecthttps://github.com/xando/rocket-project
 http://xando-1.appspot.com/

 Project was highly inspired by work done in djangoappengine of All
 Button Pressed, but since that project was dedicated to work with
 django-nonrel, I decided to write my own and focus only on Google
 CloudSQL.

 Thanks
 seba

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