[google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine Platform
GAE forces you to use a framework, php doesn't. GAE lets you cheaply host django, web.py and webapp frameworks. On Jan 9, 1:54 pm, Eric Frost wrote: > If I develop an app using the Google App Engine Platform and decide to > change my mind and host it ourselves later, is this possible? > > Are there some few features such as leveraging Google Accounts that > would not be possible? > > How about the database? > > I have a lot of experience with PHP and MySQL on cheaping hosting > accounts with WHM and CPANEL. > > What are the pros / cons of the PHP/MySQL platform vs. the Google App > Engine? > > Thanks, > Eric > > http://www.infomoving.comhttp://www.mapelves.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine Platform
What if I want to move away from GAE later.. can I host django, web.py, or webapp frameworks myself? (Does my question make sense?) Eric On Jan 9, 1:54 pm, adelevie wrote: > GAE forces you to use a framework, php doesn't. GAE lets you cheaply > host django, web.py and webapp frameworks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine Platform
If you go with django, especially say an appenginepatch version, you more than likely can move off without too much trouble. You'd have to redo your models, and if you use things like ListProperty you may have to make adjustments to how you handle that in your source. Basically, the entire data storage portion of your app would need to go through a major rewrite. I'm hoping in a few months to get the time to try that for an application I'm working on, just to see how much trouble it is and prepare for being able to do it if the need arises. On Jan 9, 2:58 pm, Eric Frost wrote: > What if I want to move away from GAE later.. can I host django, > web.py, or webapp frameworks myself? (Does my question make sense?) > > Eric > > On Jan 9, 1:54 pm, adelevie wrote: > > > GAE forces you to use a framework, php doesn't. GAE lets you cheaply > > host django, web.py and webapp frameworks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine Platform
You might well have to do some work scaling* the SDK, but it is possible to host a minimally changed App Engine App on differerent host. http://waxy.org/2008/04/exclusive_google_app_engine_ported_to_amazons_ec2/ * the SDK isnt intended to handle real traffic, so it wont natively scale very well. In particular the Datastore API would need to be modified to access a real database 2009/1/9 Eric Frost : > > What if I want to move away from GAE later.. can I host django, > web.py, or webapp frameworks myself? (Does my question make sense?) > > Eric > > On Jan 9, 1:54 pm, adelevie wrote: >> GAE forces you to use a framework, php doesn't. GAE lets you cheaply >> host django, web.py and webapp frameworks. > > > > -- Barry - www.nearby.org.uk - www.geograph.org.uk - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine Platform
Very good question.I think this also is most of startups' concern over using App Engine. http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2008/04/what-exactly-is-google-app-engine.html For the ListProperty, isn't it similar to ManyToManyField in Django? correct me if I am wrong. M On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Barry Hunter wrote: > > You might well have to do some work scaling* the SDK, but it is > possible to host a minimally changed App Engine App on differerent > host. > > http://waxy.org/2008/04/exclusive_google_app_engine_ported_to_amazons_ec2/ > > * the SDK isnt intended to handle real traffic, so it wont natively > scale very well. In particular the Datastore API would need to be > modified to access a real database > > 2009/1/9 Eric Frost : > > > > What if I want to move away from GAE later.. can I host django, > > web.py, or webapp frameworks myself? (Does my question make sense?) > > > > Eric > > > > On Jan 9, 1:54 pm, adelevie wrote: > >> GAE forces you to use a framework, php doesn't. GAE lets you cheaply > >> host django, web.py and webapp frameworks. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Barry > > - www.nearby.org.uk - www.geograph.org.uk - > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine Platform
> What if I want to move away from GAE later.. can I host django, > web.py, or webapp frameworks myself? (Does my question make sense?) > Check out this article: http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/pure_django.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine Platform
You may want to star this issue http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=874 Apologies if it reads a little strangely, I was in an odd mood at the time :) On Jan 10, 12:48 am, Alexander Kojevnikov wrote: > > What if I want to move away from GAE later.. can I host django, > > web.py, or webapp frameworks myself? (Does my question make sense?) > > Check out this > article:http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/pure_django.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
