[google-appengine] Re: Google Code issue tracker cleanup

2014-09-08 Thread Jon Stevens
Here is the case of an issue getting set as NotReproducible (and 
effectively closed) yet someone has responded to it in a way that it should 
be re-opened...

https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3497

I applaud the effort to work through these issues, but they shouldn't be 
closed so quickly either.

best,

jon


On Thursday, August 7, 2014 9:51:44 AM UTC-7, Eric Tray wrote:

 Obviously getting feedback from users is not too vital to you guys 
 otherwise you would'nt have ignored the Issue Tracker for 4+ years. How is 
 it that no one is held accountable for this? How is this acceptable for a 
 company such as Google? 

 If it takes you this long just to fix the issue tracker, I can only 
 imagine how long it will take for the actual issues themselves to get 
 resolved. Maybe 5 years later we will actually get Servlet 3.0 support. 
 Probably not though.

 On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 10:48:52 AM UTC-4, Jesse Scherer (Google) wrote:

 Over the past few years we have fallen behind on updating our issue 
 tracker on Google Code. But since getting feedback from our users is vital 
 to us, we will be renewing our focus on making the tracker useful to you.

 We must work through the large number of open issues which exist today. 
 Many of the older issues issues represent popular feature requests, but 
 others were opened long ago and are no longer relevant to the person who 
 opened them or to the App Engine community.

 We wish to fix this so that developers can easily find and follow issues 
 which apply to them. So, over the next few weeks we will review open issues 
 and close those that are obsolete and merge related issues together when 
 possible.

 There is much work to do here, and in some cases we may inadvertently 
 close issues which are still relevant and important. If an issue which 
 affects you is closed and marked as obsolete or as a duplicate of another 
 issue, please comment on the issue so we can take another look.

 How you can help

 --

 1. Check for a duplicate first. If so, star that issue. We often do sorts 
 by number of stars, so if it's a common issue, lots of duplicates can cause 
 us to miss it

 2. Write a clear, concise bug report. This is a report that needs to be 
 read several times. Write very clearly reproduction steps, OS, SDK version 
 and post code if you can. If we can't understand the bug report, we will 
 close it. 

 3. Follow up. We will sometimes post questions in the bug. If we don't 
 receive a response, we will close the bug. Also - if it turns out to be 
 user error, it helps us a lot if you post your fix. This sometimes helps us 
 expose places where we can improve our documentation.

 Thank you all in advance for your support and commitment.

 -- 

 Jesse Scherer | Technical Program Manager | jsch...@google.com



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[google-appengine] Re: Google Code issue tracker cleanup

2014-08-07 Thread Eric Tray
Obviously getting feedback from users is not too vital to you guys 
otherwise you would'nt have ignored the Issue Tracker for 4+ years. How is 
it that no one is held accountable for this? How is this acceptable for a 
company such as Google? 

If it takes you this long just to fix the issue tracker, I can only imagine 
how long it will take for the actual issues themselves to get resolved. 
Maybe 5 years later we will actually get Servlet 3.0 support. Probably not 
though.

On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 10:48:52 AM UTC-4, Jesse Scherer (Google) wrote:

 Over the past few years we have fallen behind on updating our issue 
 tracker on Google Code. But since getting feedback from our users is vital 
 to us, we will be renewing our focus on making the tracker useful to you.

 We must work through the large number of open issues which exist today. 
 Many of the older issues issues represent popular feature requests, but 
 others were opened long ago and are no longer relevant to the person who 
 opened them or to the App Engine community.

 We wish to fix this so that developers can easily find and follow issues 
 which apply to them. So, over the next few weeks we will review open issues 
 and close those that are obsolete and merge related issues together when 
 possible.

 There is much work to do here, and in some cases we may inadvertently 
 close issues which are still relevant and important. If an issue which 
 affects you is closed and marked as obsolete or as a duplicate of another 
 issue, please comment on the issue so we can take another look.

 How you can help

 --

 1. Check for a duplicate first. If so, star that issue. We often do sorts 
 by number of stars, so if it's a common issue, lots of duplicates can cause 
 us to miss it

 2. Write a clear, concise bug report. This is a report that needs to be 
 read several times. Write very clearly reproduction steps, OS, SDK version 
 and post code if you can. If we can't understand the bug report, we will 
 close it. 

 3. Follow up. We will sometimes post questions in the bug. If we don't 
 receive a response, we will close the bug. Also - if it turns out to be 
 user error, it helps us a lot if you post your fix. This sometimes helps us 
 expose places where we can improve our documentation.

 Thank you all in advance for your support and commitment.

 -- 

 Jesse Scherer | Technical Program Manager | jsch...@google.com 
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[google-appengine] Re: Google Code issue tracker cleanup

2014-08-06 Thread pdknsk
Wow, the good news keep rolling in. I apologise if this is an inappropriate 
question, but does the App Engine team have a relatively high fluctuation 
of Managers, or just so many of them. I'm not really familiar with job 
descriptions at big corporations.

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[google-appengine] Re: Google Code issue tracker cleanup

2014-08-06 Thread Kaan Soral
Yey! I'm one of those who urged the issue tracker usage at every feedback 
form and survey :)

Would be great to finally get more use of the issue tracker

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