[google-appengine] Re: Interesting evaluation of AppEngine for transaction processing and a comparison to other cloud providers

2010-05-27 Thread bFlood
hi ivan

when will the new GAE results using non-transactional writes be
available? also, were these tests run *after* the 500 rps limit was
removed?

at first glance, it looks like a pretty thorough test and GAE does not
look too good...

thanks
brian

On May 27, 7:27 am, Ivan Zuzak  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just thought I'd mention this here as it is probably interesting to
> AppEngine developers -- there's a paper on "An Evaluation of
> Alternative Architectures for Transaction Processing in the Cloud"
> available at [1] and a short overview at [2].
>
> Best,
> Ivan
>
> [1]http://systems.ethz.pubzone.org/servlet/Attachment?attachmentId=76&ve...
>
> [2]http://highscalability.com/blog/2010/5/26/end-to-end-performance-stud...

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[google-appengine] Re: Interesting evaluation of AppEngine for transaction processing and a comparison to other cloud providers

2010-05-27 Thread Ivan Zuzak
Brian -- I forgot to mention that I am not involved with the
referenced articles in any way, so I have no idea when new results
will be available. Contacting the authors of the paper and reporting
back here sounds like the thing to do. :)

Cheers,
Ivan

On May 27, 2:36 pm, bFlood  wrote:
> hi ivan
>
> when will the new GAE results using non-transactional writes be
> available? also, were these tests run *after* the 500 rps limit was
> removed?
>
> at first glance, it looks like a pretty thorough test and GAE does not
> look too good...
>
> thanks
> brian
>
> On May 27, 7:27 am, Ivan Zuzak  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > Just thought I'd mention this here as it is probably interesting to
> > AppEngine developers -- there's a paper on "An Evaluation of
> > Alternative Architectures for Transaction Processing in the Cloud"
> > available at [1] and a short overview at [2].
>
> > Best,
> > Ivan
>
> > [1]http://systems.ethz.pubzone.org/servlet/Attachment?attachmentId=76&ve...
>
> > [2]http://highscalability.com/blog/2010/5/26/end-to-end-performance-stud...

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[google-appengine] Re: Interesting evaluation of AppEngine for transaction processing and a comparison to other cloud providers

2010-05-27 Thread Sharp-Developer.Net
As someone pointed to in comments to the post looks like they use same
entity group in GAE datastore - what is bogus and make the test
senseless as GAE designed to be scaled and this test trying to prove
it's not.

Their reply point that "we wanted maximum consistency" just does not
add any sense as well - there are ways to achieve consistence without
single entities group though you would need spend some time to design
it properly.

So not that interesting to GAE developers.

Alex
http://sharp-developer.net/

On May 27, 12:27 pm, Ivan Zuzak  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just thought I'd mention this here as it is probably interesting to
> AppEngine developers -- there's a paper on "An Evaluation of
> Alternative Architectures for Transaction Processing in the Cloud"
> available at [1] and a short overview at [2].
>
> Best,
> Ivan
>
> [1]http://systems.ethz.pubzone.org/servlet/Attachment?attachmentId=76&ve...
>
> [2]http://highscalability.com/blog/2010/5/26/end-to-end-performance-stud...

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[google-appengine] Re: Interesting evaluation of AppEngine for transaction processing and a comparison to other cloud providers

2010-05-28 Thread Darien Caldwell
Yes, its like testing 3 cars, two diesel powered, and one gasoline
powered, and putting diesel in all 3 for 'maximum consistency'.  :)

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[google-appengine] Re: Interesting evaluation of AppEngine for transaction processing and a comparison to other cloud providers

2010-05-28 Thread Niklasro(.appspot)


On May 27, 7:27 am, Ivan Zuzak  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just thought I'd mention this here as it is probably interesting to
> AppEngine developers -- there's a paper on "An Evaluation of
> Alternative Architectures for Transaction Processing in the Cloud"
> available at [1] and a short overview at [2].
>
> Best,
> Ivan
>
> [1]http://systems.ethz.pubzone.org/servlet/Attachment?attachmentId=76&ve...
>
> [2]http://highscalability.com/blog/2010/5/26/end-to-end-performance-stud...
Alway think why you need it:Alla edits reversible. Same thing

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