[google-appengine] Re: Interesting evaluation of AppEngine for transaction processing and a comparison to other cloud providers
hi ivan when will the new GAE results using non-transactional writes be available? also, were these tests run *after* the 500 rps limit was removed? at first glance, it looks like a pretty thorough test and GAE does not look too good... thanks brian On May 27, 7:27 am, Ivan Zuzak wrote: > Hi all, > > Just thought I'd mention this here as it is probably interesting to > AppEngine developers -- there's a paper on "An Evaluation of > Alternative Architectures for Transaction Processing in the Cloud" > available at [1] and a short overview at [2]. > > Best, > Ivan > > [1]http://systems.ethz.pubzone.org/servlet/Attachment?attachmentId=76&ve... > > [2]http://highscalability.com/blog/2010/5/26/end-to-end-performance-stud... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Interesting evaluation of AppEngine for transaction processing and a comparison to other cloud providers
Brian -- I forgot to mention that I am not involved with the referenced articles in any way, so I have no idea when new results will be available. Contacting the authors of the paper and reporting back here sounds like the thing to do. :) Cheers, Ivan On May 27, 2:36 pm, bFlood wrote: > hi ivan > > when will the new GAE results using non-transactional writes be > available? also, were these tests run *after* the 500 rps limit was > removed? > > at first glance, it looks like a pretty thorough test and GAE does not > look too good... > > thanks > brian > > On May 27, 7:27 am, Ivan Zuzak wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > Just thought I'd mention this here as it is probably interesting to > > AppEngine developers -- there's a paper on "An Evaluation of > > Alternative Architectures for Transaction Processing in the Cloud" > > available at [1] and a short overview at [2]. > > > Best, > > Ivan > > > [1]http://systems.ethz.pubzone.org/servlet/Attachment?attachmentId=76&ve... > > > [2]http://highscalability.com/blog/2010/5/26/end-to-end-performance-stud... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Interesting evaluation of AppEngine for transaction processing and a comparison to other cloud providers
As someone pointed to in comments to the post looks like they use same entity group in GAE datastore - what is bogus and make the test senseless as GAE designed to be scaled and this test trying to prove it's not. Their reply point that "we wanted maximum consistency" just does not add any sense as well - there are ways to achieve consistence without single entities group though you would need spend some time to design it properly. So not that interesting to GAE developers. Alex http://sharp-developer.net/ On May 27, 12:27 pm, Ivan Zuzak wrote: > Hi all, > > Just thought I'd mention this here as it is probably interesting to > AppEngine developers -- there's a paper on "An Evaluation of > Alternative Architectures for Transaction Processing in the Cloud" > available at [1] and a short overview at [2]. > > Best, > Ivan > > [1]http://systems.ethz.pubzone.org/servlet/Attachment?attachmentId=76&ve... > > [2]http://highscalability.com/blog/2010/5/26/end-to-end-performance-stud... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Interesting evaluation of AppEngine for transaction processing and a comparison to other cloud providers
Yes, its like testing 3 cars, two diesel powered, and one gasoline powered, and putting diesel in all 3 for 'maximum consistency'. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Interesting evaluation of AppEngine for transaction processing and a comparison to other cloud providers
On May 27, 7:27 am, Ivan Zuzak wrote: > Hi all, > > Just thought I'd mention this here as it is probably interesting to > AppEngine developers -- there's a paper on "An Evaluation of > Alternative Architectures for Transaction Processing in the Cloud" > available at [1] and a short overview at [2]. > > Best, > Ivan > > [1]http://systems.ethz.pubzone.org/servlet/Attachment?attachmentId=76&ve... > > [2]http://highscalability.com/blog/2010/5/26/end-to-end-performance-stud... Alway think why you need it:Alla edits reversible. Same thing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.