[google-appengine] Re: Really frustrated by Google's inaction on fixing certain e-mail bugs for years

2012-03-16 Thread pdknsk
 Sorry if this seems callous, but IMHO the send email api is a waste
 of precious developer resources.

How many Googlers are currently working on it?

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[google-appengine] Re: Really frustrated by Google's inaction on fixing certain e-mail bugs for years

2012-03-16 Thread anatoly techtonik
On Friday, March 16, 2012 11:14:30 AM UTC+3, PK wrote:

Issue 2383 http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=2383   
 Filed on *Nov 11 2009*  8bit Mail encoding


Let me point out the two important aspects of this (correct me if I wrong):

1. Emails in pretty valid 8bit encoding are silently ignored (users are not 
notified about errors)
2. This is marked as a Feature

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[google-appengine] Re: Really frustrated by Google's inaction on fixing certain e-mail bugs for years

2012-03-16 Thread PK
I really do not understand why Brandon insists on this one, he is really 
not helping us to raise the visibility of this with Google. What are these 
unsubstantiated theories that Google does not decode 8bit encoded MIME 
messages for security reasons.

I have a really simple feature here---part of a much bigger service. It 
receives e-mails, decodes them, processes them, encodes them again and 
forwards them. Pretty cool!! For most e-mails it works and I have many 
happy users. For some encodings (like 8bit) it does not and raises an 
exception and for those users I cannot provide the service and then they go 
to my customer and compain. Like it or not there are e-mail clients out 
there to this day that generate e-mail message with such encodings. As I 
point in the bug, and the reason that triggered this message, I just found 
an e-mail like that yesterday night from a CS Professor at Stanford. I 
cannot control what e-mail clients my users use and I should not 

Thanks for reading,
PK

On Friday, March 16, 2012 3:12:35 AM UTC-7, anatoly techtonik wrote:

 On Friday, March 16, 2012 11:14:30 AM UTC+3, PK wrote:

 Issue 2383http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=2383   
 Filed on *Nov 11 2009*  8bit Mail encoding


 Let me point out the two important aspects of this (correct me if I wrong):

 1. Emails in pretty valid 8bit encoding are silently ignored (users are 
 not notified about errors)
 2. This is marked as a Feature


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RE: [google-appengine] Re: Really frustrated by Google's inaction on fixing certain e-mail bugs for years

2012-03-16 Thread Brandon Wirtz
 What are these unsubstantiated theories that Google does not decode 8bit
encoded MIME messages for security reasons.



Strong Typing (and Encoding) are pretty core to python. Accepting all
codings is actually not common in most functions.  

This may not seem like a security thing, but it is certainly a Testing
overhead, and a potential outputs issue (plus all the dependencies then have
to support the encoding as well.  There are a number of things that Python
errors horribly if there is a non-standard or unexpected encoding on a
character.  It's a pain in the ass, but it is the way of the world.

 

 

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