[google-appengine] Re: The price of Google Channel API

[Nick (Cloud Platform Support)]

Hi F. L. Lee, 

I'm not quite sure I understand your question. I can tell you that "budget" 
refers to the App Engine daily budget, found under "Compute > App Engine > 
Settings" in the Developers Console . 
Perhaps you can expand more on what exactly you'd like to know? I'm not 
sure what you mean, for example, by "how to charge for" in this context.

Best wishes,

Nick

On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 4:58:00 AM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:
>
> hi Guys,
>
> I have a question about the price of google channel API.  from 
> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas, it claims, for paid user, 
> the daily limits of "Channel Create" and "Channel Hour Requested" are both 
> "based on your budget". Refer to the attached for more details.
> I can't find exactly how to charge for the exceeded Channel Creates and 
> Channel Hour Requests. Could you please give me more details or forward my 
> question to proper people if you're not the one? Thanks in advance.
>
> best regards
> Forest
>

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[google-appengine] Re: The price of Google Channel API

[F.L Lee]

Hi Nick,

Thanks for your prompt response.  
Sorry for the confusion,actually I would like to know such cost 
 information, like "$ 0.026 per GB per month" for "Code and static data 
storage". I can't find such cost description for "channel api"
 Let me describe my questions in detail.
1) Suppose "Channels Created" of my application is 10,000 within today, 
then how much should I pay for it?
2) Support "Channel Hours Requested" of my application is 20,000 within 
today,   then how much should I pay for it?
3) Support we have 1 million clients, and each client need maintain a 
channel for 24 hours each day , then how much should I pay for single day?

Not sure if I have clear my question. looking forward to your reply.

best regards,
Forest


On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 4:58:00 PM UTC+8, F.L Lee wrote:
>
> hi Guys,
>
> I have a question about the price of google channel API.  from 
> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas, it claims, for paid user, 
> the daily limits of "Channel Create" and "Channel Hour Requested" are both 
> "based on your budget". Refer to the attached for more details.
> I can't find exactly how to charge for the exceeded Channel Creates and 
> Channel Hour Requests. Could you please give me more details or forward my 
> question to proper people if you're not the one? Thanks in advance.
>
> best regards
> Forest
>

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[google-appengine] Re: The price of Google Channel API

[Nick (Cloud Platform Support)]

Hi F. L. Lee, 

I understand your question now. I've investigated the docs page in question 
and it appears that you're correct that there's no mention of the actual 
pricing. I believe this may be a case of the docs needing an update and 
we're working on getting it fixed already. 

There are many resources out there on the web such as stackoverflow which 
point to previous price-points, but those of course can't be relied-on. 

In the meantime, you can test your billing using the Developers Console and 
its Billing section, along with precisely performing a few small tests 
which create channels and send a given number of bytes over them, etc. Of 
course, you could also wait while the docs become updated.

I hope this helps asnwer your questions. 

Sincerely,

Nick

On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 1:29:26 AM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> Thanks for your prompt response.  
> Sorry for the confusion,actually I would like to know such cost 
>  information, like "$ 0.026 per GB per month" for "Code and static data 
> storage". I can't find such cost description for "channel api"
>  Let me describe my questions in detail.
> 1) Suppose "Channels Created" of my application is 10,000 within today, 
> then how much should I pay for it?
> 2) Support "Channel Hours Requested" of my application is 20,000 within 
> today,   then how much should I pay for it?
> 3) Support we have 1 million clients, and each client need maintain a 
> channel for 24 hours each day , then how much should I pay for single day?
>
> Not sure if I have clear my question. looking forward to your reply.
>
> best regards,
> Forest
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 4:58:00 PM UTC+8, F.L Lee wrote:
>>
>> hi Guys,
>>
>> I have a question about the price of google channel API.  from 
>> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas, it claims, for paid 
>> user, the daily limits of "Channel Create" and "Channel Hour Requested" are 
>> both "based on your budget". Refer to the attached for more details.
>> I can't find exactly how to charge for the exceeded Channel Creates and 
>> Channel Hour Requests. Could you please give me more details or forward my 
>> question to proper people if you're not the one? Thanks in advance.
>>
>> best regards
>> Forest
>>
>

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: The price of Google Channel API

[F.L Lee]

hi Nick,
Thanks for your confirmation. This does help us to make business decision!
But I have not seen the updates on docs yet.

Anyway,may I ask a further question in this thread regarding the "Billing
Enabled Default Limit-maximum rate" which is only "60 creations/minute".
refer to https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas?hl=en_US
This number is too low for us.

Also I have somebody has already raised the concern. refer to
https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=10016

My question is, is there any way to increase the limit? My app has millions
of user, so the expected quota should be very huge.

Looking forward to your early reply.
best regards,
Forest


On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) <
pay...@google.com> wrote:

> Hey F. L. Lee,
>
> After investigation, I can confirm that there is no additional or hidden
> price for the Channel Create operation. The docs will update soon to show
> this.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 11:10:23 PM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nick, Alex,
>>
>> Just let you know, we're still waiting for your updates on this question,
>> in order to make final decision.
>> Inform me ASAP when you figure out the confirmative answer. Look forward
>> to your early replay.
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> best regards,
>> Forest
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) <
>> pay...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi F. L. Lee,
>>>
>>> I understand your question now. I've investigated the docs page in
>>> question and it appears that you're correct that there's no mention of the
>>> actual pricing. I believe this may be a case of the docs needing an update
>>> and we're working on getting it fixed already.
>>>
>>> There are many resources out there on the web such as stackoverflow
>>> which point to previous price-points, but those of course can't be
>>> relied-on.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, you can test your billing using the Developers Console
>>> and its Billing section, along with precisely performing a few small tests
>>> which create channels and send a given number of bytes over them, etc. Of
>>> course, you could also wait while the docs become updated.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps asnwer your questions.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 1:29:26 AM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:

 Hi Nick,

 Thanks for your prompt response.
 Sorry for the confusion,actually I would like to know such cost
  information, like "$ 0.026 per GB per month" for "Code and static
 data storage". I can't find such cost description for "channel api"
  Let me describe my questions in detail.
 1) Suppose "Channels Created" of my application is 10,000 within
 today, then how much should I pay for it?
 2) Support "Channel Hours Requested" of my application is 20,000
 within today,   then how much should I pay for it?
 3) Support we have 1 million clients, and each client need maintain a
 channel for 24 hours each day , then how much should I pay for single day?

 Not sure if I have clear my question. looking forward to your reply.

 best regards,
 Forest


 On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 4:58:00 PM UTC+8, F.L Lee wrote:
>
> hi Guys,
>
> I have a question about the price of google channel API.  from
> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas, it claims, for paid
> user, the daily limits of "Channel Create" and "Channel Hour Requested" 
> are
> both "based on your budget". Refer to the attached for more details.
> I can't find exactly how to charge for the exceeded Channel Creates
> and Channel Hour Requests. Could you please give me more details or 
> forward
> my question to proper people if you're not the one? Thanks in advance.
>
> best regards
> Forest
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: The price of Google Channel API

['Alex Martelli' via Google App Engine]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:31 AM, F.L Lee  wrote:

> hi Nick,
> Thanks for your confirmation. This does help us to make business decision!
> But I have not seen the updates on docs yet.
>

It's at https://cloud.google.com/appengine/pricing , last row in table
"Resource billing rates":

"""
Sending Email, Shared Memcache, Pagespeed, Cron, APIs (URLFetch, Task
Queues, Image, Sockets, Files, Users, and Channel) No Additional Charge
"""

Alex


>
> Anyway,may I ask a further question in this thread regarding the "Billing
> Enabled Default Limit-maximum rate" which is only "60 creations/minute".
> refer to https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas?hl=en_US
> This number is too low for us.
>
> Also I have somebody has already raised the concern. refer to
> https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=10016
>
> My question is, is there any way to increase the limit? My app has
> millions of user, so the expected quota should be very huge.
>
> Looking forward to your early reply.
> best regards,
> Forest
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) <
> pay...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey F. L. Lee,
>>
>> After investigation, I can confirm that there is no additional or hidden
>> price for the Channel Create operation. The docs will update soon to show
>> this.
>>
>> Best of luck,
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 11:10:23 PM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Nick, Alex,
>>>
>>> Just let you know, we're still waiting for your updates on this
>>> question, in order to make final decision.
>>> Inform me ASAP when you figure out the confirmative answer. Look forward
>>> to your early replay.
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>> Forest
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) <
>>> pay...@google.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi F. L. Lee,

 I understand your question now. I've investigated the docs page in
 question and it appears that you're correct that there's no mention of the
 actual pricing. I believe this may be a case of the docs needing an update
 and we're working on getting it fixed already.

 There are many resources out there on the web such as stackoverflow
 which point to previous price-points, but those of course can't be
 relied-on.

 In the meantime, you can test your billing using the Developers Console
 and its Billing section, along with precisely performing a few small tests
 which create channels and send a given number of bytes over them, etc. Of
 course, you could also wait while the docs become updated.

 I hope this helps asnwer your questions.

 Sincerely,

 Nick

 On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 1:29:26 AM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> Thanks for your prompt response.
> Sorry for the confusion,actually I would like to know such cost
>  information, like "$ 0.026 per GB per month" for "Code and static
> data storage". I can't find such cost description for "channel api"
>  Let me describe my questions in detail.
> 1) Suppose "Channels Created" of my application is 10,000 within
> today, then how much should I pay for it?
> 2) Support "Channel Hours Requested" of my application is 20,000
> within today,   then how much should I pay for it?
> 3) Support we have 1 million clients, and each client need maintain a
> channel for 24 hours each day , then how much should I pay for single day?
>
> Not sure if I have clear my question. looking forward to your reply.
>
> best regards,
> Forest
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 4:58:00 PM UTC+8, F.L Lee wrote:
>>
>> hi Guys,
>>
>> I have a question about the price of google channel API.  from
>> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas, it claims, for paid
>> user, the daily limits of "Channel Create" and "Channel Hour Requested" 
>> are
>> both "based on your budget". Refer to the attached for more details.
>> I can't find exactly how to charge for the exceeded Channel Creates
>> and Channel Hour Requests. Could you please give me more details or 
>> forward
>> my question to proper people if you're not the one? Thanks in advance.
>>
>> best regards
>> Forest
>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: The price of Google Channel API

[F.L Lee]

Hi Alex,
Thanks for your prompt reply.  yes, the docs is updated, but I ignored it ,
sorry for that.
And may I ask a further question in this thread regarding the "Billing
Enabled Default Limit-maximum rate" which is only "60 creations/minute".
refer to https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas?hl=en_US
This number is too low for us.

Also I have somebody has already raised the concern. refer to
https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=10016

My question is, is there any way to increase the limit? My app has millions
of user, so the expected quota should be very huge.

Looking forward to your early reply.
best regards,
Forest


On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:03 PM, 'Alex Martelli' via Google App Engine <
google-appengine@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:31 AM, F.L Lee  wrote:
>
>> hi Nick,
>> Thanks for your confirmation. This does help us to make business decision!
>> But I have not seen the updates on docs yet.
>>
>
> It's at https://cloud.google.com/appengine/pricing , last row in table
> "Resource billing rates":
>
> """
> Sending Email, Shared Memcache, Pagespeed, Cron, APIs (URLFetch, Task
> Queues, Image, Sockets, Files, Users, and Channel) No Additional Charge
> """
>
> Alex
>
>
>>
>> Anyway,may I ask a further question in this thread regarding the "Billing
>> Enabled Default Limit-maximum rate" which is only "60 creations/minute".
>> refer to https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas?hl=en_US
>> This number is too low for us.
>>
>> Also I have somebody has already raised the concern. refer to
>> https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=10016
>>
>> My question is, is there any way to increase the limit? My app has
>> millions of user, so the expected quota should be very huge.
>>
>> Looking forward to your early reply.
>> best regards,
>> Forest
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) <
>> pay...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey F. L. Lee,
>>>
>>> After investigation, I can confirm that there is no additional or hidden
>>> price for the Channel Create operation. The docs will update soon to show
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Best of luck,
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 11:10:23 PM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:

 Hi Nick, Alex,

 Just let you know, we're still waiting for your updates on this
 question, in order to make final decision.
 Inform me ASAP when you figure out the confirmative answer. Look
 forward to your early replay.
 Thanks in advance.

 best regards,
 Forest

 On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) <
 pay...@google.com> wrote:

> Hi F. L. Lee,
>
> I understand your question now. I've investigated the docs page in
> question and it appears that you're correct that there's no mention of the
> actual pricing. I believe this may be a case of the docs needing an update
> and we're working on getting it fixed already.
>
> There are many resources out there on the web such as stackoverflow
> which point to previous price-points, but those of course can't be
> relied-on.
>
> In the meantime, you can test your billing using the Developers
> Console and its Billing section, along with precisely performing a few
> small tests which create channels and send a given number of bytes over
> them, etc. Of course, you could also wait while the docs become updated.
>
> I hope this helps asnwer your questions.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Nick
>
> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 1:29:26 AM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> Thanks for your prompt response.
>> Sorry for the confusion,actually I would like to know such cost
>>  information, like "$ 0.026 per GB per month" for "Code and static
>> data storage". I can't find such cost description for "channel api"
>>  Let me describe my questions in detail.
>> 1) Suppose "Channels Created" of my application is 10,000 within
>> today, then how much should I pay for it?
>> 2) Support "Channel Hours Requested" of my application is 20,000
>> within today,   then how much should I pay for it?
>> 3) Support we have 1 million clients, and each client need maintain a
>> channel for 24 hours each day , then how much should I pay for single 
>> day?
>>
>> Not sure if I have clear my question. looking forward to your reply.
>>
>> best regards,
>> Forest
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 4:58:00 PM UTC+8, F.L Lee wrote:
>>>
>>> hi Guys,
>>>
>>> I have a question about the price of google channel API.  from
>>> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas, it claims, for paid
>>> user, the daily limits of "Channel Create" and "Channel Hour Requested" 
>>> are
>>> both "based on your budget". Refer to the attached for more details.
>>> I can't find exactly how t

Re: [google-appengine] Re: The price of Google Channel API

['Alex Martelli' via Google App Engine]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:31 PM, F.L Lee  wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> Thanks for your prompt reply.  yes, the docs is updated, but I ignored it
> , sorry for that.
>

You're welcome -- I sweated blood to make that doc change *happen*.


> And may I ask a further question in this thread regarding the "Billing
> Enabled Default Limit-maximum rate" which is only "60 creations/minute".
>

...which is *NOT* about the PRICE, which is how you decided to title this
thread back 4 months ago.

So, this thread is pretty useless to discuss issues that are NOT about the
price.

I recommend you star the PIT issue you've pointed to, and comment there.
Moreover...:


> refer to https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas?hl=en_US
> This number is too low for us.
>
> Also I have somebody has already raised the concern. refer to
> https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=10016
>
> My question is, is there any way to increase the limit? My app has
> millions of user, so the expected quota should be very huge.
>

...in this case you can no doubt afford Gold or (better) Platinum support,
which gives you much better and more direct access to *dedicated* support
engineers (and, for Platinum, tech account managers) able to bridge
communications between your team and our Sales etc groups.

Me, I lead "1:many" cloud tech support -- a team mostly dedicated to
supporting customers who can't afford such premium support contracts
(hence, logically, small, "long-tail" customers). Neither I myself, nor
others in the team I lead, are therefore any good, or at all experienced,
at dealing with requests for quotas orders of magnitude larger than normal
-- you really need a TAM (thus, Platinum support) to navigate *that*
optimally!

We (1:many) are mostly active here on google groups, stackoverflow and
serverfault sites, and the public issue trackers -- very public channels,
because, to scale up our help, we absolutely need our actions to help, not
just the one customer asking, but, many of them. Negotiation for huge
increases in quotas would obviously be very private ones -- one more reason
to not involve us (1:many) in such "huge customer" negotiations!-)


Best of luck,

Alex


> Looking forward to your early reply.
> best regards,
> Forest
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:03 PM, 'Alex Martelli' via Google App Engine <
> google-appengine@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:31 AM, F.L Lee  wrote:
>>
>>> hi Nick,
>>> Thanks for your confirmation. This does help us to make business
>>> decision!
>>> But I have not seen the updates on docs yet.
>>>
>>
>> It's at https://cloud.google.com/appengine/pricing , last row in table
>> "Resource billing rates":
>>
>> """
>> Sending Email, Shared Memcache, Pagespeed, Cron, APIs (URLFetch, Task
>> Queues, Image, Sockets, Files, Users, and Channel) No Additional Charge
>> """
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Anyway,may I ask a further question in this thread regarding the
>>> "Billing Enabled Default Limit-maximum rate" which is only "60
>>> creations/minute".
>>> refer to https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas?hl=en_US
>>> This number is too low for us.
>>>
>>> Also I have somebody has already raised the concern. refer to
>>> https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=10016
>>>
>>> My question is, is there any way to increase the limit? My app has
>>> millions of user, so the expected quota should be very huge.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to your early reply.
>>> best regards,
>>> Forest
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) <
>>> pay...@google.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hey F. L. Lee,

 After investigation, I can confirm that there is no additional or
 hidden price for the Channel Create operation. The docs will update soon to
 show this.

 Best of luck,

 Nick


 On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 11:10:23 PM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:
>
> Hi Nick, Alex,
>
> Just let you know, we're still waiting for your updates on this
> question, in order to make final decision.
> Inform me ASAP when you figure out the confirmative answer. Look
> forward to your early replay.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> best regards,
> Forest
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) <
> pay...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi F. L. Lee,
>>
>> I understand your question now. I've investigated the docs page in
>> question and it appears that you're correct that there's no mention of 
>> the
>> actual pricing. I believe this may be a case of the docs needing an 
>> update
>> and we're working on getting it fixed already.
>>
>> There are many resources out there on the web such as stackoverflow
>> which point to previous price-points, but those of course can't be
>> relied-on.
>>
>> In the meantime, you can test your billing using the Developers
>> Console and its Billing section, al

Re: [google-appengine] Re: The price of Google Channel API

[F.L Lee]

Hi Nick, Alex,

Just let you know, we're still waiting for your updates on this question,
in order to make final decision.
Inform me ASAP when you figure out the confirmative answer. Look forward to
your early replay.
Thanks in advance.

best regards,
Forest

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) <
pay...@google.com> wrote:

> Hi F. L. Lee,
>
> I understand your question now. I've investigated the docs page in
> question and it appears that you're correct that there's no mention of the
> actual pricing. I believe this may be a case of the docs needing an update
> and we're working on getting it fixed already.
>
> There are many resources out there on the web such as stackoverflow which
> point to previous price-points, but those of course can't be relied-on.
>
> In the meantime, you can test your billing using the Developers Console
> and its Billing section, along with precisely performing a few small tests
> which create channels and send a given number of bytes over them, etc. Of
> course, you could also wait while the docs become updated.
>
> I hope this helps asnwer your questions.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Nick
>
> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 1:29:26 AM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:
>>
>> Hi Nick,
>>
>> Thanks for your prompt response.
>> Sorry for the confusion,actually I would like to know such cost
>>  information, like "$ 0.026 per GB per month" for "Code and static data
>> storage". I can't find such cost description for "channel api"
>>  Let me describe my questions in detail.
>> 1) Suppose "Channels Created" of my application is 10,000 within today,
>> then how much should I pay for it?
>> 2) Support "Channel Hours Requested" of my application is 20,000 within
>> today,   then how much should I pay for it?
>> 3) Support we have 1 million clients, and each client need maintain a
>> channel for 24 hours each day , then how much should I pay for single day?
>>
>> Not sure if I have clear my question. looking forward to your reply.
>>
>> best regards,
>> Forest
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 4:58:00 PM UTC+8, F.L Lee wrote:
>>>
>>> hi Guys,
>>>
>>> I have a question about the price of google channel API.  from
>>> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas, it claims, for paid
>>> user, the daily limits of "Channel Create" and "Channel Hour Requested" are
>>> both "based on your budget". Refer to the attached for more details.
>>> I can't find exactly how to charge for the exceeded Channel Creates and
>>> Channel Hour Requests. Could you please give me more details or forward my
>>> question to proper people if you're not the one? Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> best regards
>>> Forest
>>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: The price of Google Channel API

[Nick (Cloud Platform Support)]

Hey F.L Lee,

I should have some information for you shortly. I'll update you no matter 
what by the 23rd of September (two days from now).Thanks for your 
persistence and apologies for the delay.

Best wishes,

Nick

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 11:10:23 PM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:
>
> Hi Nick, Alex,
>
> Just let you know, we're still waiting for your updates on this question, 
> in order to make final decision.  
> Inform me ASAP when you figure out the confirmative answer. Look forward 
> to your early replay.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> best regards,
> Forest
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) <
> pay...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi F. L. Lee, 
>>
>> I understand your question now. I've investigated the docs page in 
>> question and it appears that you're correct that there's no mention of the 
>> actual pricing. I believe this may be a case of the docs needing an update 
>> and we're working on getting it fixed already. 
>>
>> There are many resources out there on the web such as stackoverflow which 
>> point to previous price-points, but those of course can't be relied-on. 
>>
>> In the meantime, you can test your billing using the Developers Console 
>> and its Billing section, along with precisely performing a few small tests 
>> which create channels and send a given number of bytes over them, etc. Of 
>> course, you could also wait while the docs become updated.
>>
>> I hope this helps asnwer your questions. 
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 1:29:26 AM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Nick,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your prompt response.  
>>> Sorry for the confusion,actually I would like to know such cost 
>>>  information, like "$ 0.026 per GB per month" for "Code and static data 
>>> storage". I can't find such cost description for "channel api"
>>>  Let me describe my questions in detail.
>>> 1) Suppose "Channels Created" of my application is 10,000 within today, 
>>> then how much should I pay for it?
>>> 2) Support "Channel Hours Requested" of my application is 20,000 within 
>>> today,   then how much should I pay for it?
>>> 3) Support we have 1 million clients, and each client need maintain a 
>>> channel for 24 hours each day , then how much should I pay for single day?
>>>
>>> Not sure if I have clear my question. looking forward to your reply.
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>> Forest
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 4:58:00 PM UTC+8, F.L Lee wrote:

 hi Guys,

 I have a question about the price of google channel API.  from 
 https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas, it claims, for paid 
 user, the daily limits of "Channel Create" and "Channel Hour Requested" 
 are 
 both "based on your budget". Refer to the attached for more details.
 I can't find exactly how to charge for the exceeded Channel Creates and 
 Channel Hour Requests. Could you please give me more details or forward my 
 question to proper people if you're not the one? Thanks in advance.

 best regards
 Forest

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: The price of Google Channel API

[Nick (Cloud Platform Support)]

Hey F. L. Lee,

After investigation, I can confirm that there is no additional or hidden 
price for the Channel Create operation. The docs will update soon to show 
this.

Best of luck,

Nick

On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 11:10:23 PM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:
>
> Hi Nick, Alex,
>
> Just let you know, we're still waiting for your updates on this question, 
> in order to make final decision.  
> Inform me ASAP when you figure out the confirmative answer. Look forward 
> to your early replay.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> best regards,
> Forest
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) <
> pay...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi F. L. Lee, 
>>
>> I understand your question now. I've investigated the docs page in 
>> question and it appears that you're correct that there's no mention of the 
>> actual pricing. I believe this may be a case of the docs needing an update 
>> and we're working on getting it fixed already. 
>>
>> There are many resources out there on the web such as stackoverflow which 
>> point to previous price-points, but those of course can't be relied-on. 
>>
>> In the meantime, you can test your billing using the Developers Console 
>> and its Billing section, along with precisely performing a few small tests 
>> which create channels and send a given number of bytes over them, etc. Of 
>> course, you could also wait while the docs become updated.
>>
>> I hope this helps asnwer your questions. 
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 1:29:26 AM UTC-4, F.L Lee wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Nick,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your prompt response.  
>>> Sorry for the confusion,actually I would like to know such cost 
>>>  information, like "$ 0.026 per GB per month" for "Code and static data 
>>> storage". I can't find such cost description for "channel api"
>>>  Let me describe my questions in detail.
>>> 1) Suppose "Channels Created" of my application is 10,000 within today, 
>>> then how much should I pay for it?
>>> 2) Support "Channel Hours Requested" of my application is 20,000 within 
>>> today,   then how much should I pay for it?
>>> 3) Support we have 1 million clients, and each client need maintain a 
>>> channel for 24 hours each day , then how much should I pay for single day?
>>>
>>> Not sure if I have clear my question. looking forward to your reply.
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>> Forest
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 4:58:00 PM UTC+8, F.L Lee wrote:

 hi Guys,

 I have a question about the price of google channel API.  from 
 https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas, it claims, for paid 
 user, the daily limits of "Channel Create" and "Channel Hour Requested" 
 are 
 both "based on your budget". Refer to the attached for more details.
 I can't find exactly how to charge for the exceeded Channel Creates and 
 Channel Hour Requests. Could you please give me more details or forward my 
 question to proper people if you're not the one? Thanks in advance.

 best regards
 Forest

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