[google-appengine] Re: Want to talk to the App Engine team in person?
Any chance there is someone in Boulder in the GAE team? I've gotten a tour of the offices there before, pretty neat place. We are about the launch a pretty big product using GAE and it would be awesome if we could meet with someone. On Sep 2, 6:42 pm, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I know that the pricing changes are challenging and in some ways hard to understand. So, we thought it might help to talk to the App Engine team about it in person, ask us questions you might have, and maybe have a beer with us. If you are interested let us know on the form so we can put you on the list: SIGNUP:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEpzUWdiMU9ZLVlS... WHEN: September 8, 2011 6-9PM PDT WHERE: Thirsty Bear (http://g.co/maps/rmvt) 661 Howard Street San Francisco, CA 94103 Hope to see you there! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Want to talk to the App Engine team in person?
Hi, Thanks for the meetup yesterday! It was very nice chatting with all the smart engineers from Google - I have a lot of respect for what you guys are doing (with a some constructive criticism :). I summarized my thoughts from the meetup here: http://phraktle.com/en/on-the-new-pricing-scheme-of-google-app-engine Regards, Viktor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/ucye-jwpyosJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Want to talk to the App Engine team in person?
Hi Vivek, I'll see what I can do about having one in New York (and other cities), I'll post to the list if we can work it out. Thanks for the suggestions! Greg On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Vivek Puri v...@vivekpuri.com wrote: Can we have a similar meetup in NYC? On Sep 2, 8:42 pm, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I know that the pricing changes are challenging and in some ways hard to understand. So, we thought it might help to talk to the App Engine team about it in person, ask us questions you might have, and maybe have a beer with us. If you are interested let us know on the form so we can put you on the list: SIGNUP: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEpzUWdiMU9ZLVlS... WHEN: September 8, 2011 6-9PM PDT WHERE: Thirsty Bear ( http://g.co/maps/rmvt) 661 Howard Street San Francisco, CA 94103 Hope to see you there! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Want to talk to the App Engine team in person?
What about Auckland, New Zealand? :p Actually, do you guys have some dev in NZ or is it just Assie? On Sep 8, 6:02 pm, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hi Vivek, I'll see what I can do about having one in New York (and other cities), I'll post to the list if we can work it out. Thanks for the suggestions! Greg On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Vivek Puri v...@vivekpuri.com wrote: Can we have a similar meetup in NYC? On Sep 2, 8:42 pm, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I know that the pricing changes are challenging and in some ways hard to understand. So, we thought it might help to talk to the App Engine team about it in person, ask us questions you might have, and maybe have a beer with us. If you are interested let us know on the form so we can put you on the list: SIGNUP: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEpzUWdiMU9ZLVlS... WHEN: September 8, 2011 6-9PM PDT WHERE: Thirsty Bear ( http://g.co/maps/rmvt) 661 Howard Street San Francisco, CA 94103 Hope to see you there! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Want to talk to the App Engine team in person?
I would love to spend all my time flying around to hang out with App Engine developers, but alas there is work to be done here :) We don't currently have any App Engine developers in Auckland, but we do in Sydney... Greg On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Tomas tomas.ada...@gmail.com wrote: What about Auckland, New Zealand? :p Actually, do you guys have some dev in NZ or is it just Assie? On Sep 8, 6:02 pm, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hi Vivek, I'll see what I can do about having one in New York (and other cities), I'll post to the list if we can work it out. Thanks for the suggestions! Greg On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Vivek Puri v...@vivekpuri.com wrote: Can we have a similar meetup in NYC? On Sep 2, 8:42 pm, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I know that the pricing changes are challenging and in some ways hard to understand. So, we thought it might help to talk to the App Engine team about it in person, ask us questions you might have, and maybe have a beer with us. If you are interested let us know on the form so we can put you on the list: SIGNUP: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEpzUWdiMU9ZLVlS. .. WHEN: September 8, 2011 6-9PM PDT WHERE: Thirsty Bear ( http://g.co/maps/rmvt) 661 Howard Street San Francisco, CA 94103 Hope to see you there! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Want to talk to the App Engine team in person?
+1 on usage-based billing. It was a HUGE factor in our decision to use App Engine; we have built all of our company's products on App Engine. On a related note, the 15-minute cost to spin up new instances defeats one of the greatest features of App Engine: the ability to fan-out and process large jobs very quickly. We have architected many processes that take advantage of this feature: various stats compilations, Map- Reduce data migrations, large scale batch import and report generation. It was always an amazing power of App Engine to scale-out and chew through these jobs in very little time. Now, to scale out, we will incur a bunch of extra billing in order to warm up the instances. Our solution, I guess, will be to tune back our queue rates and force the jobs to run longer. Seems like a waste of a great infrastructure. j -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Want to talk to the App Engine team in person?
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jason Collins wrote: On a related note, the 15-minute cost to spin up new instances defeats one of the greatest features of App Engine: ... Do have a read of the the min instace time is 24 hours? thread. It's a treasure trove of information. Not least you are only paying the '15-minute cost for the number of instances under the 'max-idle-instances' setting. So a huge burst of instances to furfil a map-reduce style task, - you still only paying for active instances. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Want to talk to the App Engine team in person?
Thanks for noting that Barry, I was just going to mention the same thing! We'll try to do a better job of codifying it in our FAQ. Greg On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Barry Hunter barrybhun...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Jason Collins wrote: On a related note, the 15-minute cost to spin up new instances defeats one of the greatest features of App Engine: ... Do have a read of the the min instace time is 24 hours? thread. It's a treasure trove of information. Not least you are only paying the '15-minute cost for the number of instances under the 'max-idle-instances' setting. So a huge burst of instances to furfil a map-reduce style task, - you still only paying for active instances. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Want to talk to the App Engine team in person?
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:41, Jason Collins jason.a.coll...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on usage-based billing. It was a HUGE factor in our decision to use App Engine; we have built all of our company's products on App Engine. On a related note, the 15-minute cost to spin up new instances defeats one of the greatest features of App Engine: the ability to fan-out and process large jobs very quickly. We have architected many processes that take advantage of this feature: various stats compilations, Map- Reduce data migrations, large scale batch import and report generation. It was always an amazing power of App Engine to scale-out and chew through these jobs in very little time. Now, to scale out, we will incur a bunch of extra billing in order to warm up the instances. Our solution, I guess, will be to tune back our queue rates and force the jobs to run longer. Seems like a waste of a great infrastructure. Me too. j -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Want to talk to the App Engine team in person?
Can we have a similar meetup in NYC? On Sep 2, 8:42 pm, Gregory D'alesandre gr...@google.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I know that the pricing changes are challenging and in some ways hard to understand. So, we thought it might help to talk to the App Engine team about it in person, ask us questions you might have, and maybe have a beer with us. If you are interested let us know on the form so we can put you on the list: SIGNUP:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEpzUWdiMU9ZLVlS... WHEN: September 8, 2011 6-9PM PDT WHERE: Thirsty Bear (http://g.co/maps/rmvt) 661 Howard Street San Francisco, CA 94103 Hope to see you there! Greg D'Alesandre Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Want to talk to the App Engine team in person?
App Engine team should do a world tour visiting at least one bar in every country :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/4szoj7-SHdEJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Want to talk to the App Engine team in person?
Hi Greg, That's a great idea, but I will not be able to attend that night. Will there be others like this in the future? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
