[google-appengine] Re: cooperate with top Google Apps Engine developer
On Mar 6, 10:18 am, Ben beruss...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 6, 12:30 am, dalenewman dalenew...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, You should use oDesk (www.odesk.com) for this. One catch though -- you'll have to pay the developers :-) ... if you can call $2/hr getting payed. oDesk is a joke. Indeed! Many clients on those sites seem to expect a miracle for just a few $. The question is what kind of quality you actually get for free, but how can the client judge that if he can't code? :) Could someone please report his experience with App Engine freelancers (or dev companies)? Maybe this is an option for outsourcing the development of some reusable Django apps? Bye, Waldemar Kornewald --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: cooperate with top Google Apps Engine developer
On Mar 6, 4:18 am, Ben beruss...@gmail.com wrote: ... if you can call $2/hr getting payed. oDesk is a joke. Ben. I respectfully disagree with your opinion. I wouldn't write off odesk as a joke. If you get connected with a good partner, you can get guaranteed payments on hourly rates and have the money directly deposited into your banking account. Obviously; don't bid on jobs that pay $2 an hour. You have to wonder what kind of boss only pays $2 an hour :-) Finding the right work and salary can be challenging, but it's worth it to get supplementary income in times like this. Dale www.bookdope.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: cooperate with top Google Apps Engine developer
Here here. I can share a funny story I once built a phone system for someone that wanted to set up a 900 number (remember those?) so you can call in and pay two dollars a minute to listen to samples of some New Age music catalog (think Enya or something even more awful). It was quite possibly the stupidest idea I had ever encountered, but the client was blindly unaware of just how much their idea sucked. I remember one of them saying, and this is a direct quote I will remember all the way to the grave, We smell gold here, and we have the right mining equipment. Right. I was just out of college and desperate for cash, so I did the job, but I left a timer in my code so if I didn't call in within 90 days with a secret code to unlock it, it would stop working. Sure enough, the client didn't pay, and right on schedule, I got an angry call from one of them complaining about a database error message, to which I replied that the system appeared to be working perfectly. They went through several more developers, and needless to say, did not go on to build iTunes. So a bit of advice for people here who are thinking of renting themselves out. There are plenty of established companies that are intrigued by cloud computing, have professional management, and the means to pay and pay well to prototype things. If I were building a consulting business that's where I would focus my efforts. The economy may be really bad now, but this is one area where companies can save a lot of money, and the number of people working in this domain is still pretty small. That's where you want to be in a recession, not working on commission for a startup which will more than likely fail (especially in this economy). My two cents... On Mar 5, 2:41 am, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote: *chuckle* So wait, you lack capability, but rather than be forthcoming about your needs, you wish to screen the people volunteering to help you? Sounds like yet another pseudo-entrepreneur who wants to take advantage of techies. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Alex Rad alexra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Linbo! The questions that it will answer is Where it is and what it is using Google map, reader and google finance. Drop me a few lines about your expereince and I will send out a full description as soon I have read through all the people who has shown their interest. Regards Alex 2009/3/5 lianbo waveconnex...@gmail.com Hi, Alex, What app are you trying to develop? -lb On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM, AlexR alexra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I am not a very good developer, therefore I am looking for some one who can join me to develop an apps. So anyone who enjoy working in team, why not send me an email --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: cooperate with top Google Apps Engine developer
Hi Waldemar, I'm a developer myself and used Elance to hire App Engine Developers due my lack of expirience with Python and tight schedule. A project ($100) was completed on time and I was happy with the work. So I would say it quite possible to find someone for reasonable price and acceptable quality. Here is my orignial feedback with link to profiles of the developers I liked if anyone interested: http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/6af4a2f60fb95084/227a9f8812a5bca8?lnk=gstq=elance#227a9f8812a5bca8 -- Alex On Mar 7, 1:29 pm, Waldemar Kornewald wkornew...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 6, 10:18 am, Ben beruss...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 6, 12:30 am, dalenewman dalenew...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, You should use oDesk (www.odesk.com) for this. One catch though -- you'll have to pay the developers :-) ... if you can call $2/hr getting payed. oDesk is a joke. Indeed! Many clients on those sites seem to expect a miracle for just a few $. The question is what kind of quality you actually get for free, but how can the client judge that if he can't code? :) Could someone please report his experience with App Engine freelancers (or dev companies)? Maybe this is an option for outsourcing the development of some reusable Django apps? Bye, Waldemar Kornewald --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: cooperate with top Google Apps Engine developer
I'm offering my services ! paid of course :) On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:30 PM, dalenewman dalenew...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, You should use oDesk ( www.odesk.com ) for this. One catch though -- you'll have to pay the developers :-) Dale www.bookdope.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: cooperate with top Google Apps Engine developer
Im available through odesk for work such as this already, only catch is limited time for completion before I would no longer be available. Jeremy On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 14:07 +0200, Amr Ellafi wrote: I'm offering my services ! paid of course :) On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:30 PM, dalenewman dalenew...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, You should use oDesk ( www.odesk.com ) for this. One catch though -- you'll have to pay the developers :-) Dale www.bookdope.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[google-appengine] Re: cooperate with top Google Apps Engine developer
On Mar 6, 12:30 am, dalenewman dalenew...@gmail.com wrote: Alex, You should use oDesk (www.odesk.com) for this. One catch though -- you'll have to pay the developers :-) ... if you can call $2/hr getting payed. oDesk is a joke. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: cooperate with top Google Apps Engine developer
Hi Linbo!The questions that it will answer is Where it is and what it is using Google map, reader and google finance. Drop me a few lines about your expereince and I will send out a full description as soon I have read through all the people who has shown their interest. Regards Alex 2009/3/5 lianbo waveconnex...@gmail.com Hi, Alex, What app are you trying to develop? -lb On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM, AlexR alexra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I am not a very good developer, therefore I am looking for some one who can join me to develop an apps. So anyone who enjoy working in team, why not send me an email --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: cooperate with top Google Apps Engine developer
*chuckle* So wait, you lack capability, but rather than be forthcoming about your needs, you wish to screen the people volunteering to help you? Sounds like yet another pseudo-entrepreneur who wants to take advantage of techies. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Alex Rad alexra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Linbo! The questions that it will answer is Where it is and what it is using Google map, reader and google finance. Drop me a few lines about your expereince and I will send out a full description as soon I have read through all the people who has shown their interest. Regards Alex 2009/3/5 lianbo waveconnex...@gmail.com Hi, Alex, What app are you trying to develop? -lb On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM, AlexR alexra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I am not a very good developer, therefore I am looking for some one who can join me to develop an apps. So anyone who enjoy working in team, why not send me an email --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: cooperate with top Google Apps Engine developer
Hi Andrew... Well there you are wrong... a team discuss and get togehter something that every team member is happy with it I am not here to say This What I WANT HELP ME TO DO IT!!.. By the way with your point of view I dont like you to be in the team!.. 2009/3/5 Andrew Badera and...@badera.us *chuckle* So wait, you lack capability, but rather than be forthcoming about your needs, you wish to screen the people volunteering to help you? Sounds like yet another pseudo-entrepreneur who wants to take advantage of techies. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Alex Rad alexra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Linbo! The questions that it will answer is Where it is and what it is using Google map, reader and google finance. Drop me a few lines about your expereince and I will send out a full description as soon I have read through all the people who has shown their interest. Regards Alex 2009/3/5 lianbo waveconnex...@gmail.com Hi, Alex, What app are you trying to develop? -lb On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM, AlexR alexra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I am not a very good developer, therefore I am looking for some one who can join me to develop an apps. So anyone who enjoy working in team, why not send me an email --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: cooperate with top Google Apps Engine developer
You're asking people to volunteer their help, but rather than give them details of what you're expecting them to do, you want them to submit THEIR information, so you can screen them? A bit presumptuous, don't you think? Not to mention bass-ackwards. PS No interest in being on your team, but thanks for the thought! ;) On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Alex Rad alexra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrew... Well there you are wrong... a team discuss and get togehter something that every team member is happy with it I am not here to say This What I WANT HELP ME TO DO IT!!.. By the way with your point of view I dont like you to be in the team!.. 2009/3/5 Andrew Badera and...@badera.us *chuckle* So wait, you lack capability, but rather than be forthcoming about your needs, you wish to screen the people volunteering to help you? Sounds like yet another pseudo-entrepreneur who wants to take advantage of techies. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Alex Rad alexra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Linbo! The questions that it will answer is Where it is and what it is using Google map, reader and google finance. Drop me a few lines about your expereince and I will send out a full description as soon I have read through all the people who has shown their interest. Regards Alex 2009/3/5 lianbo waveconnex...@gmail.com Hi, Alex, What app are you trying to develop? -lb On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM, AlexR alexra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I am not a very good developer, therefore I am looking for some one who can join me to develop an apps. So anyone who enjoy working in team, why not send me an email --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: cooperate with top Google Apps Engine developer
Alex, You should use oDesk ( www.odesk.com ) for this. One catch though -- you'll have to pay the developers :-) Dale www.bookdope.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: cooperate with top Google Apps Engine developer
Hi, Alex, What app are you trying to develop? -lb On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM, AlexR alexra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I am not a very good developer, therefore I am looking for some one who can join me to develop an apps. So anyone who enjoy working in team, why not send me an email --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---