Re: [google-appengine] Doom day
Great advice, thanks (to everyone) I can't believe I was being billed for that much Idle instances, *my idiotness for not investigating further and trusting the scheduler and GAE for it *... I probably paid 1k-2k extra for this mistake Don't even want to think what I could do with that money ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/XddC3fYV9l4J. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
RE: [google-appengine] Doom day
The scheduler isn't all things to all people, or all instances. That's why I have been trying to tell people to clamp it, and how to tune it (and complaining about how it is tuned). The Full Auto mode on instances can work if you tune the latency. Full auto on latency is almost always a bad idea. We ran quite a few test passes to see what QoS users would get at different settings on our app, and I would advise you to do the same thing. Testing in a Vacuum really lets you get a sense of how many you need of what. Crawling through the apps that appear in Google Search results (yes I crawl results I have a bot) I found that VERY few of them set cache headers. People keep telling me why those don't matter, but I'm telling you, even the least cachable apps on the planet have HTTP requests re-polled by ISPs, the Alexa Bot, and other things, so if you aren't using HTTPS you should enable Cache Headers to save a minimum of 10%. From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kaan Soral Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 11:26 AM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Doom day Great advice, thanks (to everyone) I can't believe I was being billed for that much Idle instances, my idiotness for not investigating further and trusting the scheduler and GAE for it ... I probably paid 1k-2k extra for this mistake Don't even want to think what I could do with that money ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/XddC3fYV9l4J. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
RE: [google-appengine] Doom day
Or this. http://www.xyhd.tv/2011/11/industry-news/setting-google-appengine-gae-perfor mance-sliders-for-instance-and-latency/ From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kaan Soral Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:27 AM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: [google-appengine] Doom day The 50% discount for frontend instance hours will expire on December 1st. Please check your Billing History page and update your budget http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/billing.html#Setting_a_Daily_Budget if necessary. Since Python 2.7 is problematic, we have already been paying a lot with %50 discounted prices ... My daily costs went up to 90$ from 40$ before new pricing, now it will be ~160$s ... 4x ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/xd3yViF2pggJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Doom day
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6282 This is the problem You may be right about the sliders I am attaching my instances chart, any suggestions? (I kept everything at automatic-automatic until now, trusting gae, but it seems it is over using instances) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/GbOYuz42dlQJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. attachment: chart.png
Re: [google-appengine] Doom day
If you set Max Idle Instance to automatic you will always pay for the total number of instances. Looking at your chart I'd set Max Idle Instance to something between 20-25 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/zitj392_plYJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.