Re: [google-appengine] Doom day

2011-12-04 Thread Kaan Soral
Great advice, thanks (to everyone)

I can't believe I was being billed for that much Idle instances, *my 
idiotness for not investigating further and trusting the scheduler and GAE 
for it *...
I probably paid 1k-2k extra for this mistake

Don't even want to think what I could do with that money ...

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RE: [google-appengine] Doom day

2011-12-04 Thread Brandon Wirtz
The scheduler isn't all things to all people, or all instances.  That's why
I have been trying to tell people to clamp it, and how to tune it (and
complaining about how it is tuned).

 

The Full Auto mode on instances can work if you tune the latency.  Full auto
on latency is almost always a bad idea.

 

We ran quite a few test passes to see what QoS users would get at different
settings on our app, and I would advise you to do the same thing.  Testing
in a Vacuum really lets you get a sense of how many you need of what.

 

Crawling through the apps that appear in Google Search results (yes I crawl
results I have a bot) I found that VERY few of them set cache headers.
People keep telling me why those don't matter, but I'm telling you, even the
least cachable apps on the planet have HTTP requests re-polled by ISPs, the
Alexa Bot, and other things, so if you aren't using HTTPS you should enable
Cache Headers to save a minimum of 10%.

 

 

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Great advice, thanks (to everyone)

I can't believe I was being billed for that much Idle instances, my
idiotness for not investigating further and trusting the scheduler and GAE
for it ...
I probably paid 1k-2k extra for this mistake

Don't even want to think what I could do with that money ...

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RE: [google-appengine] Doom day

2011-12-03 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Or this. 

 

http://www.xyhd.tv/2011/11/industry-news/setting-google-appengine-gae-perfor
mance-sliders-for-instance-and-latency/

 

 

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Subject: [google-appengine] Doom day

 

The 50% discount for frontend instance hours will expire on December 1st.
Please check your Billing History page and update your budget
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/billing.html#Setting_a_Daily_Budget
if necessary.

Since Python 2.7 is problematic, we have already been paying a lot with %50
discounted prices ... My daily costs went up to 90$ from 40$ before new
pricing, now it will be ~160$s ... 4x ...

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Re: [google-appengine] Doom day

2011-12-02 Thread Kaan Soral
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6282
This is the problem

You may be right about the sliders
I am attaching my instances chart, any suggestions?
(I kept everything at automatic-automatic until now, trusting gae, but it 
seems it is over using instances)

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attachment: chart.png

Re: [google-appengine] Doom day

2011-12-02 Thread Gerald Tan
If you set Max Idle Instance to automatic you will always pay for the total 
number of instances.
Looking at your chart I'd set Max Idle Instance to something between 20-25

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