Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE python 2.7 end of life

2019-01-09 Thread NP 
Someone wrote a wrapper for the cloud datastore API - 
https://github.com/Bogdanp/anom-py. I haven't used it myself so can't 
comment.


On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 12:31:46 PM UTC-8, Blaine Garrett wrote:
>
> I asked this in a different thread, but I wonder if anyone has tried to 
> port the ndb package as a standalone python 3 package.
> Thus far, in my experiments, once I got the datastore emulator running 
> locally, converting the consumption of the datastore apis from ndb to 
> native objects has been the biggest pain. I have not tried converting my 
> deferred tasks, etc.
>
> Source code for the ndb package
>
> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/python/refdocs/modules/google/appengine/ext/ndb/model
>
> ~ Blaine
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 12:07:44 PM UTC-6, Rahul Ravindran wrote:
>>
>> Google has a policy of a one year deprecation policy for any GA runtime. 
>> Given that nothing has been announced yet, please know that your 
>> application will continue running for at least a year and that will be the 
>> *minimum 
>> *period for you to need to do anything. 
>>
>> I apologize on being very brief around this at this point, but there are 
>> discussions going on. Stay tuned for longer term guidance around this issue.
>>
>> ~Rahul.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 6:47 AM bFlood  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> its not the incompatibility of python (language/runtime), its missing 
>>> services with regard to GAE Standard 2.7 and GAE Standard 3.0. (memcache, 
>>> NDB, Search, Images, Users, webapp2, etc). Are these going to be duplicated 
>>> in GAE3? and if so, will existing data and model definitions in the 2.7 
>>> datastore work in 3? 
>>>
>>> it looks like some work is being done for this but it would be great to 
>>> know officially what Google plans for this upgrade process. how much code 
>>> will need to change? 
>>>
>>> https://github.com/googleapis/google-cloud-python/issues?q=NDB+sort%3Aupdated-desc
>>>
>>> also, generally what do you mean by "not directly affected on an 
>>> immediate time frame"? a year, 2 years, 5 years before 2.7 apps stop 
>>> running? 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 9:32:36 AM UTC-5, George (Cloud 
>>> Platform Support) wrote:

 You are perfectly right, NP. Python 3 is made incompatible with 2, and 
 Python 3 does not support quite a few features, and will require effort to 
 re-program your app in an alternative manner. I was simply saying that 
 often the effort is not enormous, and becomes worthwhile on the longer 
 term. 

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE python 2.7 end of life

2019-01-09 Thread Blaine Garrett 
I asked this in a different thread, but I wonder if anyone has tried to 
port the ndb package as a standalone python 3 package.
Thus far, in my experiments, once I got the datastore emulator running 
locally, converting the consumption of the datastore apis from ndb to 
native objects has been the biggest pain. I have not tried converting my 
deferred tasks, etc.

Source code for the ndb package
https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/python/refdocs/modules/google/appengine/ext/ndb/model

~ Blaine


On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 12:07:44 PM UTC-6, Rahul Ravindran wrote:
>
> Google has a policy of a one year deprecation policy for any GA runtime. 
> Given that nothing has been announced yet, please know that your 
> application will continue running for at least a year and that will be the 
> *minimum 
> *period for you to need to do anything. 
>
> I apologize on being very brief around this at this point, but there are 
> discussions going on. Stay tuned for longer term guidance around this issue.
>
> ~Rahul.
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 6:47 AM bFlood  > wrote:
>
>> its not the incompatibility of python (language/runtime), its missing 
>> services with regard to GAE Standard 2.7 and GAE Standard 3.0. (memcache, 
>> NDB, Search, Images, Users, webapp2, etc). Are these going to be duplicated 
>> in GAE3? and if so, will existing data and model definitions in the 2.7 
>> datastore work in 3? 
>>
>> it looks like some work is being done for this but it would be great to 
>> know officially what Google plans for this upgrade process. how much code 
>> will need to change? 
>>
>> https://github.com/googleapis/google-cloud-python/issues?q=NDB+sort%3Aupdated-desc
>>
>> also, generally what do you mean by "not directly affected on an 
>> immediate time frame"? a year, 2 years, 5 years before 2.7 apps stop 
>> running? 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 9:32:36 AM UTC-5, George (Cloud Platform 
>> Support) wrote:
>>>
>>> You are perfectly right, NP. Python 3 is made incompatible with 2, and 
>>> Python 3 does not support quite a few features, and will require effort to 
>>> re-program your app in an alternative manner. I was simply saying that 
>>> often the effort is not enormous, and becomes worthwhile on the longer 
>>> term. 
>>>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE python 2.7 end of life

2019-01-09 Thread 'Rahul Ravindran' via Google App Engine 
Google has a policy of a one year deprecation policy for any GA runtime.
Given that nothing has been announced yet, please know that your
application will continue running for at least a year and that will be
the *minimum
*period for you to need to do anything.

I apologize on being very brief around this at this point, but there are
discussions going on. Stay tuned for longer term guidance around this issue.

~Rahul.

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 6:47 AM bFlood  wrote:

> its not the incompatibility of python (language/runtime), its missing
> services with regard to GAE Standard 2.7 and GAE Standard 3.0. (memcache,
> NDB, Search, Images, Users, webapp2, etc). Are these going to be duplicated
> in GAE3? and if so, will existing data and model definitions in the 2.7
> datastore work in 3?
>
> it looks like some work is being done for this but it would be great to
> know officially what Google plans for this upgrade process. how much code
> will need to change?
>
> https://github.com/googleapis/google-cloud-python/issues?q=NDB+sort%3Aupdated-desc
>
> also, generally what do you mean by "not directly affected on an immediate
> time frame"? a year, 2 years, 5 years before 2.7 apps stop running?
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 at 9:32:36 AM UTC-5, George (Cloud Platform
> Support) wrote:
>>
>> You are perfectly right, NP. Python 3 is made incompatible with 2, and
>> Python 3 does not support quite a few features, and will require effort to
>> re-program your app in an alternative manner. I was simply saying that
>> often the effort is not enormous, and becomes worthwhile on the longer
>> term.
>>
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