[appengine-java] Re: What Framework to use?

2010-05-24 Thread Philippe Marschall


On May 21, 6:29 pm, "hurray!"  wrote:
> I am looking for a web framework to use on GAE that
> 1. Provides pretty URLs
> 2. Makes passing data to views easier.
> 3. Is productive.
>
> I tried Grails for a small app, but the startup time was too long.
>
> I am curious what framework do you guys use for a small to medium
> sizeapp (that gets a few hundred visits per day)? Please advise based
> on your production level experience on GAE.

I used Wicket and the low level datastore API. I was quite happy with
it but had slow, high CPU loading requests. So I went to static html,
JQuery and JAX-RS handlers or servlets. Performance is stellar now.
It's a small application though.

Cheers
Philippe

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[appengine-java] Re: What Framework to use?

2010-05-24 Thread Jake
Hey,

I also dropped JDO in favor of Objectify.  I tried loading your site 4
times in the span of about 4 minutes: 3 times the delay was over 9
seconds, sometimes up to 15 seconds.  I presume those were loading
requests as the delay was all located in the initial request.  These
still remain my biggest complaints with GAE: low traffic sites see
loading requests make up 30-50% of their requests and the
unpredictable delay between request and filter init() on such loading
requests.

Jake

On May 24, 11:31 am, nicolas melendez  wrote:
> You can see my wicket and gae app, the start up time is aceptable because it
> doesn't use jdo. Www.clasificad.com.ar
>
> El may 24, 2010 10:30 a.m., "Jake"  escribió:
>
> I'm also using Wicket and it works well.  I have had some difficulties
> with GAE but, after many months of debugging, I do not believe they
> are related to Wicket.  Sometimes, I have a pretty long startup time,
> but it is never during the actual Wicket startup (from filter init to
> app ready) - it's always the 3-8 seconds before the filter
> initializes.  The framework itself is great.
>
> Jake
>
> On May 21, 10:30 pm, nicolas melendez  wrote:
>
> > chose the Wicket way!
>
> > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:22 PM, jnizet  wrote:
> > > I have used Stripes on GAE : seehttps://memwords.appspot.com/and
> > >http://code.google.com/p/memwords/forthe sources. It's a very
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Re: [appengine-java] Re: What Framework to use?

2010-05-24 Thread nicolas melendez
You can see my wicket and gae app, the start up time is aceptable because it
doesn't use jdo. Www.clasificad.com.ar

El may 24, 2010 10:30 a.m., "Jake"  escribió:

I'm also using Wicket and it works well.  I have had some difficulties
with GAE but, after many months of debugging, I do not believe they
are related to Wicket.  Sometimes, I have a pretty long startup time,
but it is never during the actual Wicket startup (from filter init to
app ready) - it's always the 3-8 seconds before the filter
initializes.  The framework itself is great.

Jake


On May 21, 10:30 pm, nicolas melendez  wrote:
> chose the Wicket way!
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:22 PM, jnizet  wrote:
> > I have used Stripes on GAE : seehttps://memwords.appspot.com/and

> >http://code.google.com/p/memwords/for the sources. It's a very
> > elegant and productive action-...
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[appengine-java] Re: What Framework to use?

2010-05-24 Thread Jake
I'm also using Wicket and it works well.  I have had some difficulties
with GAE but, after many months of debugging, I do not believe they
are related to Wicket.  Sometimes, I have a pretty long startup time,
but it is never during the actual Wicket startup (from filter init to
app ready) - it's always the 3-8 seconds before the filter
initializes.  The framework itself is great.

Jake

On May 21, 10:30 pm, nicolas melendez  wrote:
> chose the Wicket way!
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:22 PM, jnizet  wrote:
> > I have used Stripes on GAE : seehttps://memwords.appspot.com/and
> >http://code.google.com/p/memwords/for the sources. It's a very
> > elegant and productive action-based framework, which works very well
> > on GAE. I have a 5-10 seconds cold startup time on GAE, but once it's
> > started, it flies.
>
> > JB.
>
> > On May 21, 9:40 pm, Rusty Wright  wrote:
> > > Stripes.  http://www.stripesframework.org/display/stripes/Home
>
> > > On 2010-05-21 09:29, hurray! wrote:
>
> > > > I am looking for a web framework to use on GAE that
> > > > 1. Provides pretty URLs
> > > > 2. Makes passing data to views easier.
> > > > 3. Is productive.
>
> > > > I tried Grails for a small app, but the startup time was too long.
>
> > > > I am curious what framework do you guys use for a small to medium
> > > > sizeapp (that gets a few hundred visits per day)? Please advise based
> > > > on your production level experience on GAE.
>
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Re: [appengine-java] Re: What Framework to use?

2010-05-21 Thread nicolas melendez
chose the Wicket way!

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:22 PM, jnizet  wrote:

> I have used Stripes on GAE : see https://memwords.appspot.com/ and
> http://code.google.com/p/memwords/ for the sources. It's a very
> elegant and productive action-based framework, which works very well
> on GAE. I have a 5-10 seconds cold startup time on GAE, but once it's
> started, it flies.
>
> JB.
>
> On May 21, 9:40 pm, Rusty Wright  wrote:
> > Stripes.  http://www.stripesframework.org/display/stripes/Home
> >
> > On 2010-05-21 09:29, hurray! wrote:
> >
> > > I am looking for a web framework to use on GAE that
> > > 1. Provides pretty URLs
> > > 2. Makes passing data to views easier.
> > > 3. Is productive.
> >
> > > I tried Grails for a small app, but the startup time was too long.
> >
> > > I am curious what framework do you guys use for a small to medium
> > > sizeapp (that gets a few hundred visits per day)? Please advise based
> > > on your production level experience on GAE.
> >
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A) Google App Engine works:

1) http://www.clasificad.com.ar - Local free classifieds for  housing, sale,
services, local community, curses,jobs, and events - GAE/J + Wicket + YUI

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Applets + Wicket

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[appengine-java] Re: What Framework to use?

2010-05-21 Thread jnizet
I have used Stripes on GAE : see https://memwords.appspot.com/ and
http://code.google.com/p/memwords/ for the sources. It's a very
elegant and productive action-based framework, which works very well
on GAE. I have a 5-10 seconds cold startup time on GAE, but once it's
started, it flies.

JB.

On May 21, 9:40 pm, Rusty Wright  wrote:
> Stripes.  http://www.stripesframework.org/display/stripes/Home
>
> On 2010-05-21 09:29, hurray! wrote:
>
> > I am looking for a web framework to use on GAE that
> > 1. Provides pretty URLs
> > 2. Makes passing data to views easier.
> > 3. Is productive.
>
> > I tried Grails for a small app, but the startup time was too long.
>
> > I am curious what framework do you guys use for a small to medium
> > sizeapp (that gets a few hundred visits per day)? Please advise based
> > on your production level experience on GAE.
>
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[appengine-java] Re: What Framework to use?

2010-05-21 Thread hurray!
Have you used Stripes on GAE or just throwing it out there?


On May 21, 2:40 pm, Rusty Wright  wrote:
> Stripes.  http://www.stripesframework.org/display/stripes/Home
>
> On 2010-05-21 09:29, hurray! wrote:
>
> > I am looking for a web framework to use on GAE that
> > 1. Provides pretty URLs
> > 2. Makes passing data to views easier.
> > 3. Is productive.
>
> > I tried Grails for a small app, but the startup time was too long.
>
> > I am curious what framework do you guys use for a small to medium
> > sizeapp (that gets a few hundred visits per day)? Please advise based
> > on your production level experience on GAE.
>
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