Re: Eclipse plugin for Eclipse 3.5 (Galileo)

2009-07-30 Thread Gugas

Well done everybody!!!
We can crack open the champaigne!
3.5 plugin is out!!!

On 29 Jul, 17:05, petB  wrote:
> On Jul 28, 10:14 pm, Juraj Vitko  wrote:
>
> > If you know anything about software development, then you know that
> > any and all development time estimation is just a wild guess.
>
> It is still a good practice to provide release estimates, whatever
> imprecise.
>
> I just finished one (not web oriented) project and would like to start
> a new one with GWT. I need to decide if to instal Eclipse 3.5 and wait
> for GWT plugin or go with Eclipse 3.4. As I want to read some
> literature before, waiting  a week or more is not a problem. Not
> having this information, downgrading Eclipse to 3.4 and then upgrading
> it again within few days would be annoying.
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Re: Eclipse plugin for Eclipse 3.5 (Galileo)

2009-07-27 Thread Gugas

Just to clarify a few things:
1. I demand absolutely nothing and I have nothing but high regard for
the coders at google who develop the gwt framework.
2. I have no project on hold for lack of the plugin. I was simply
wanting to test it on Galileo, see how well it works.
3. My earlier comment was in regard to expectations of delivery that
have been given.
4. I use the GWT framework, and I also promote it and help others
around me use it.
5. Being branded by Mr. Isaac as someone who rudely seats back and
yells is utterly offensive to me. I am sure those comments cannot come
from someone who has any regard for the comunity of developers that
help GWT grow.


On 27 Jul, 16:31, Isaac Truett  wrote:
> None of the plugin developers has made an announcement or offered a
> release date. They have responded to questions from anxious developers
> eager to see the new version by offering their own hopes or
> expectations for delivery. That's more then you get from many
> projects, partially for the very reason we see here: when those
> aspirations aren't met, people who interpreted them as official
> commitments start complaining.
>
> I shouldn't have to haul out my soap box here. Have a little patience
> and put this in perspective. You are not paying customers and no one
> here is under any obligation to you. If you want hard delivery dates
> and commitments, get out your checkbook and see if anyone bites. A
> polite "how's that coming along" inquiry is, I would think, an
> appreciated sign of community interest. But if you want to sit in the
> back seat and yell "are we there yet" at the drivers, either accept
> that "soon" is a valid answer or, if you're lucky enough to get
> something more precise, understand that it's somebody sticking their
> neck out trying to be helpful.
>
> Go back to enjoying your free lunches. When dessert arrives, it will
> be announced.
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Gugas wrote:
>
> > Not to defend dependency on the plugin, but the fact is that gwt
> > coders keep saying that it will be out very shortly and this has kept
> > a good number of us hanging.
> > I understand that the realease has been  delayed because quality comes
> > first, as it should, but it would show a bit more professionalism if
> > gwt stopped making announcements for "the end of the week" and only
> > come up with a date when they are sure of it.
> > Best reagrds
>
> > On 26 Jul, 18:54, Isaac Truett  wrote:
> >> It certainly is unfortunate that you would be delaying your project
> >> because of a single convenience plugin. I would recommend that you
> >> strive for more self-sufficiency and less sense of entitlement.
>
> >> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:57 PM, SuperEva wrote:
>
> >> > So...just curious...when will the plugin be ready. Some of us have
> >> > been waiting over a month. It is very unfortunate the way this is
> >> > delaying our project. Do you recommend we move back to 3.4 Eclipse or
> >> > turn elsewhere for solutions? Or is the fix really gonna come within
> >> > the next week?
>
> >> > Appreciate a quick response,
> >> > Eva
>
> >> > On Jul 23, 10:35 am, Miguel Méndez  wrote:
> >> >> Don't worry.  Release 1.1 of the plugin will support Eclipse 3.3, 3.4 
> >> >> and
> >> >> 3.5.  However, we are considering deprecating support for Eclipse 3.3 
> >> >> in the
> >> >> 1.2 release of our plugin.
>
> >> >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Yaakov  
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> > Hi Rajeev,
>
> >> >> > You guys are still going to support the version for Eclipse 3.4,
> >> >> > right?
>
> >> >> > I am just hoping that you guys don't forget that not everyone can be
> >> >> > Google Wave and code against a constantly (and very rapidly) moving
> >> >> > platform.
>
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > Yaakov.
>
> >> >> > On Jul 22, 11:46 am, Rajeev Dayal  wrote:
> >> >> > > Hi,
> >> >> > > Yes, this has taken longer than expected, but we're now on the 
> >> >> > > finishing
> >> >> > > touches. We should have something out there within the week.
>
> >> >> > > Thanks,
> >> >> > > Rajeev
>
> >> >> > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Nik  wrote:
>
> >> >> > > > We're now heading towards months, not

Re: Eclipse plugin for Eclipse 3.5 (Galileo)

2009-07-27 Thread Gugas

Not to defend dependency on the plugin, but the fact is that gwt
coders keep saying that it will be out very shortly and this has kept
a good number of us hanging.
I understand that the realease has been  delayed because quality comes
first, as it should, but it would show a bit more professionalism if
gwt stopped making announcements for "the end of the week" and only
come up with a date when they are sure of it.
Best reagrds

On 26 Jul, 18:54, Isaac Truett  wrote:
> It certainly is unfortunate that you would be delaying your project
> because of a single convenience plugin. I would recommend that you
> strive for more self-sufficiency and less sense of entitlement.
>
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:57 PM, SuperEva wrote:
>
> > So...just curious...when will the plugin be ready. Some of us have
> > been waiting over a month. It is very unfortunate the way this is
> > delaying our project. Do you recommend we move back to 3.4 Eclipse or
> > turn elsewhere for solutions? Or is the fix really gonna come within
> > the next week?
>
> > Appreciate a quick response,
> > Eva
>
> > On Jul 23, 10:35 am, Miguel Méndez  wrote:
> >> Don't worry.  Release 1.1 of the plugin will support Eclipse 3.3, 3.4 and
> >> 3.5.  However, we are considering deprecating support for Eclipse 3.3 in 
> >> the
> >> 1.2 release of our plugin.
>
> >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Yaakov  wrote:
>
> >> > Hi Rajeev,
>
> >> > You guys are still going to support the version for Eclipse 3.4,
> >> > right?
>
> >> > I am just hoping that you guys don't forget that not everyone can be
> >> > Google Wave and code against a constantly (and very rapidly) moving
> >> > platform.
>
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Yaakov.
>
> >> > On Jul 22, 11:46 am, Rajeev Dayal  wrote:
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > > Yes, this has taken longer than expected, but we're now on the 
> >> > > finishing
> >> > > touches. We should have something out there within the week.
>
> >> > > Thanks,
> >> > > Rajeev
>
> >> > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Nik  wrote:
>
> >> > > > We're now heading towards months, not weeks.
> >> > > > Any progress?
>
> >> > > > On Jun 25, 10:17 pm, Alex Rudnick  wrote:
> >> > > > > If you enjoyed this thread, you may also like these:
> >> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit/browse_thread/threa..
> >> > ..
> >> > > > ..
>
> >> > > > > We're working on it *right now*, rest assured!
>
> >> > > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Rob Tanner
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > When will a version of the plugin be released for Eclipse 3.5 (or
> >> > can
> >> > > > > > I simply use the version for 3.4).  I would like to use the new
> >> > > > > > Eclipse, but GWT has become one of my main tools.
>
> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > > Rob
>
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > Alex Rudnick
> >> > > > > swe, gwt, atl
>
> >> --
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