Worth to mention their debug mode where you can find design problems.

Try to click on the "analyse layouts" button:
http://demo.vaadin.com/sampler/?debug=true

so +1 for Vaadin

Marcelo Magno



On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Steve Wart <steve.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Vaadin looks good, and it makes sense to keep the client-side load
> light, especially with touch devices becoming prevalent.
>
> But it doesn't seem great (so far) for touch UI work, and I think the
> "everything in Java" mantra is sub-optimal. While Vaadin has hooks for
> CSS and hand-crafted JavaScript, my ideal toolset would better support
> the developers who can make these technologies sing.
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Kevin Qiu <kevin.jing....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > +1 for Vaadin.
> > Their widgets are very polished and professional. GXT and SmartGWT are
> fine
> > but they're too desktop-looky, not Web2.0 looky...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:03 PM, marius.andreiana
> > <marius.andrei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Chi,
> >>
> >> On Aug 9, 10:23 pm, Chi H <c...@chi.ca> wrote:
> >> >  * Pagination is the standard solution to the 'large number of
> >> > entities' problem.  However, there is a usability cost to pagination.
> >> > It would be really nice to get rid of the pagination and just use a
> >> > scrollbar.   If you used the approach of SlickGrid (http://
> >> > wiki.github.com/mleibman/SlickGrid/), where you only rendered what
> was
> >> > visible on the screen, you can render large numbers entities without
> >> > the need for pagination.
> >>
> >> How will search engines index all the content in this case?
> >>
> >> The SlickGrid widget doesn't work at all if JS is not enabled.
> >>
> >> Thanks
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