Re: GWT 2.8 update

2015-08-05 Thread steve Zara
Any idea when this 2.7.1 release might be available?

On Tuesday, 21 July 2015 20:51:36 UTC+1, Jens wrote:



  At the very least could we have more openness about the state of Java 8 
 features in GWT, and the prospects of a release quality implementation?


 First of all 2.8 SNAPSHOT releases are production quality code as Google 
 runs their apps from the Git master branch as well as other companies (the 
 company I work for also uses snapshot builds of GWT and we never really had 
 a problem)

 That being said Java 8 syntax support is available in 2.8 SNAPSHOT builds 
 and works very, very well. What is not available is any kind of Java 8 API 
 emulation (java.util.function and the like) and the Google GWT team kind of 
 expects the community to provide these emulation as contribution to GWT. 
 The reason is that the Google GWT team heavily works on a new GWT compiler 
 and JsInterop.

 However contributing Java 8 API emulations isn't really fun as soon as 
 they require Java 8 syntax (I have done a few patches, see 
 https://gwt-review.googlesource.com/#/q/project:gwt+branch:master+topic:java8-emul).
  
 The reason is that Gerrit still triggers a Java 7 build, which fails of 
 course as soon as Java 8 syntax is used, and that the Java 8 build of GWT 
 fails on the CI server for some unknown reason with assertion errors that 
 do not make any sense, see http://build.gwtproject.org/job/gwt-java8/ . I 
 tried to reproduce the assertion errors locally and on CI servers of the 
 company I work for but didn't had any luck.

 Maybe a 2.7.1 release should be done with all the fixes and Java 8 syntax 
 support. Seems like JsInterop 1.0 is further delayed and Java 8 API 
 emulation is far from complete. 

 -- J.


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Re: GWT 2.8 update

2015-07-21 Thread Rogelio Flores
You can already use Java 8 to compile GWT 2.7 if that helps you at all 
(just don't use Java 8 syntax on the client side yet). I've been using it 
for over two months without any issues.

On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 7:41:09 AM UTC-6, steve Zara wrote:

 I am in the same situation.  Having seen suggestions of the likely release 
 of GWT 2.8 for the start of this year, I'm eager to switch to the use of 
 Java 8 syntax.  One of GWT's selling points has been the use of the same 
 language across client and server.  Right now we are stuck with Java 7 on 
 the client and soon there will be previews of Java 9 on the server.  If It 
 was announced that GWT was to remain at Java 7 I would have no problem. 
  What is difficult is having Java 8 features regularly promised but with no 
 delivery.  I'm working on critical commercial software, so snapshots aren't 
 enough. 
 I love using GWT - please don't let this change!

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Re: GWT 2.8 update

2015-07-21 Thread steve Zara
I have been using Java 8 to compile GWT for many months.  What I'm 
concerned about is the ability to use Java 8 syntax in code common to both 
client and server.  The current situation means I have to either avoid Java 
8 features altogether or develop in two different sets of Java syntax for 
client and server.  

As I said, the release of Java 8 features has been promised as 'coming 
soon' for about 9 months.  This is not really what I would expect from a 
widely used framework with a good reputation.  At the very least could we 
have more openness about the state of Java 8 features in GWT, and the 
prospects of a release quality implementation?

On Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:53:44 UTC+1, Rogelio Flores wrote:

 You can already use Java 8 to compile GWT 2.7 if that helps you at all 
 (just don't use Java 8 syntax on the client side yet). I've been using it 
 for over two months without any issues.

 On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 7:41:09 AM UTC-6, steve Zara wrote:

 I am in the same situation.  Having seen suggestions of the likely 
 release of GWT 2.8 for the start of this year, I'm eager to switch to the 
 use of Java 8 syntax.  One of GWT's selling points has been the use of the 
 same language across client and server.  Right now we are stuck with Java 7 
 on the client and soon there will be previews of Java 9 on the server.  If 
 It was announced that GWT was to remain at Java 7 I would have no problem. 
  What is difficult is having Java 8 features regularly promised but with no 
 delivery.  I'm working on critical commercial software, so snapshots aren't 
 enough. 
 I love using GWT - please don't let this change!



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Re: GWT 2.8 update

2015-07-21 Thread Jens


 At the very least could we have more openness about the state of Java 8 
 features in GWT, and the prospects of a release quality implementation?


First of all 2.8 SNAPSHOT releases are production quality code as Google 
runs their apps from the Git master branch as well as other companies (the 
company I work for also uses snapshot builds of GWT and we never really had 
a problem)

That being said Java 8 syntax support is available in 2.8 SNAPSHOT builds 
and works very, very well. What is not available is any kind of Java 8 API 
emulation (java.util.function and the like) and the Google GWT team kind of 
expects the community to provide these emulation as contribution to GWT. 
The reason is that the Google GWT team heavily works on a new GWT compiler 
and JsInterop.

However contributing Java 8 API emulations isn't really fun as soon as they 
require Java 8 syntax (I have done a few patches, see 
https://gwt-review.googlesource.com/#/q/project:gwt+branch:master+topic:java8-emul).
 
The reason is that Gerrit still triggers a Java 7 build, which fails of 
course as soon as Java 8 syntax is used, and that the Java 8 build of GWT 
fails on the CI server for some unknown reason with assertion errors that 
do not make any sense, see http://build.gwtproject.org/job/gwt-java8/ . I 
tried to reproduce the assertion errors locally and on CI servers of the 
company I work for but didn't had any luck.

Maybe a 2.7.1 release should be done with all the fixes and Java 8 syntax 
support. Seems like JsInterop 1.0 is further delayed and Java 8 API 
emulation is far from complete. 

-- J.

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Re: GWT 2.8 update

2015-07-21 Thread steve Zara


On Tuesday, 21 July 2015 20:51:36 UTC+1, Jens wrote:



  At the very least could we have more openness about the state of Java 8 
 features in GWT, and the prospects of a release quality implementation?


 First of all 2.8 SNAPSHOT releases are production quality code as Google 
 runs their apps from the Git master branch as well as other companies (the 
 company I work for also uses snapshot builds of GWT and we never really had 
 a problem)


Thank you - that is useful to know. 


 That being said Java 8 syntax support is available in 2.8 SNAPSHOT builds 
 and works very, very well. What is not available is any kind of Java 8 API 
 emulation (java.util.function and the like) and the Google GWT team kind of 
 expects the community to provide these emulation as contribution to GWT. 
 The reason is that the Google GWT team heavily works on a new GWT compiler 
 and JsInterop.

 However contributing Java 8 API emulations isn't really fun as soon as 
 they require Java 8 syntax (I have done a few patches, see 
 https://gwt-review.googlesource.com/#/q/project:gwt+branch:master+topic:java8-emul).
  
 The reason is that Gerrit still triggers a Java 7 build, which fails of 
 course as soon as Java 8 syntax is used, and that the Java 8 build of GWT 
 fails on the CI server for some unknown reason with assertion errors that 
 do not make any sense, see http://build.gwtproject.org/job/gwt-java8/ . I 
 tried to reproduce the assertion errors locally and on CI servers of the 
 company I work for but didn't had any luck.

 Maybe a 2.7.1 release should be done with all the fixes and Java 8 syntax 
 support. Seems like JsInterop 1.0 is further delayed and Java 8 API 
 emulation is far from complete. 


That sounds like an excellent idea.  I would find this being available in 
an official release of GWT would be really useful - not because I don't 
trust snapshots, but it would help reassure clients who use my products.   
This would also, of course, permit Java 8 syntax to be used in Android and 
iOS development via gwt-phonegap.

For now I will start to make use of the snapshot jars, and I will look 
forward to a possible 2.7.1 release.

Thanks for the helpful reply.

 -- J.


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GWT 2.8 update

2015-07-21 Thread steve Zara
I am in the same situation.  Having seen suggestions of the likely release of 
GWT 2.8 for the start of this year, I'm eager to switch to the use of Java 8 
syntax.  One of GWT's selling points has been the use of the same language 
across client and server.  Right now we are stuck with Java 7 on the client and 
soon there will be previews of Java 9 on the server.  If It was announced that 
GWT was to remain at Java 7 I would have no problem.  What is difficult is 
having Java 8 features regularly promised but with no delivery.  I'm working on 
critical commercial software, so snapshots aren't enough. 
I love using GWT - please don't let this change!

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Re: GWT 2.8 update

2015-07-20 Thread k.balaji k.bala
Hello
On Jul 11, 2015 7:16 AM, Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez 
lfpg@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd like to ask for an update on the planning for 2.8 release.
 Are there still many missing functionality? What is the tentative release
 schedule?
 I'm avid to change our project source level to Java 8, but I'm not
 confident in using the SNAPSHOT in a release version of our app.
 Any chances it will be out still in August?
 Thanks, Luis.

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GWT 2.8 update

2015-07-10 Thread Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez
I'd like to ask for an update on the planning for 2.8 release.
Are there still many missing functionality? What is the tentative release 
schedule?
I'm avid to change our project source level to Java 8, but I'm not 
confident in using the SNAPSHOT in a release version of our app.
Any chances it will be out still in August?
Thanks, Luis.

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