Re: GWT PCI Compliance Toolkit

2009-11-17 Thread Evan Ruff
Exactly!

Not only do we tell you sucess/failure, we tell you every event that goes
through the forum.

The module displays the payment form in an iframe. The form includes a style
sheet located on your site to match the look and feel of your application.
When the user interacts with the form, CRE Secure uses some cross-domain
mojo to pass back status to your application through JSNI and up to the GWT
layer. All error messages, whatCVV2 requests, completion messages and cancel
messages are handled on your site in any way you choose. All of this is done
in a PCI compliant manner. The user never has any jarring interruption,
visual disconnects or continuity issues around payment.

CRE Secure distributes a JAR file that you can drop into your application.
You the implement the four functions our CRESecureProcessor interface and
pass it to the included CRESecureManager. CRESecureManager does all
the marshaling of the JNSI functions, frame creation, etc.

Currently, we have a 1.0 release in production processing cards now. We're
pushing out 1.1 this week with a number of improvements to make the
implementation experience a little smoother. We're currently looking for
people that are using GWT, collect credit cards and don't want to deal with
the hassle of PCI compliance.

Evan
evan.r...@crecommerce.com



On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Yozons Support on Gmail
wrote:

> The real benefit of your service is that you've provided a GWT
> widget/module we can install by downloading it from your secure server so
> that the CC information is entered on my page, but your widget actually
> captures the CC info and submits it for processing to your server directly
> so our web site never touches CC data and thus can avoid PCI compliance?
> But it somehow is able to communicate with my code (some sort of event
> listener?) to tell me success/failure of the payment?
>
> I know that most merchant services companies offer tools like this, though
> most are "redirect to their site" to do the payment, and then redirect back
> to your site with success/failure.  Is this how you differ from what they
> offer?
>
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Re: GWT PCI Compliance Toolkit

2009-11-17 Thread Yozons Support on Gmail
The real benefit of your service is that you've provided a GWT widget/module
we can install by downloading it from your secure server so that the CC
information is entered on my page, but your widget actually captures the CC
info and submits it for processing to your server directly so our web site
never touches CC data and thus can avoid PCI compliance?  But it somehow is
able to communicate with my code (some sort of event listener?) to tell me
success/failure of the payment?

I know that most merchant services companies offer tools like this, though
most are "redirect to their site" to do the payment, and then redirect back
to your site with success/failure.  Is this how you differ from what they
offer?

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Re: GWT PCI Compliance Toolkit

2009-11-17 Thread Evan Ruff
Yozons,

I think we are actually on-topic here. PCI Compliance is something that
every application must deal with. Because of the hybrid nature of GWT
applications, there are certain challenges that are unique to the platform.


I think you might be misunderstanding the problem with PCI Compliance,
especially from a GWT standpoint. It is not possible to connect a GWT Widget
(such as a payment form) directly to an external payment processor through
RPC due to the cross-domain security policies of the browser. These requests
must be routed through the hosting server. Because the payment details touch
the server, the application must conform to PCI guidelines.

When the credit card data touches the server-side service, you are
immediately subjected to SAQ-C (at least). The overview in your post is
extremely high level without the specific requirements for compliance. I've
included a link to the full PCI-DSS and SAQ below. While a vast majority of
the SAQ-C requirements focus on server software implementation, Section 9 of
the PCI-DSS lays out a number of PHYSICAL requirements that must followed at
the data center level.

Hosting your application at a PCI-Compliant data center is extremely
expensive; furthermore, cloud-based environments such as EC2 or Google App
Engine are, by nature, not PCI Compliant. CRE Secure aims to eliminate the
entire PCI Compliance variable by collecting and processing the payment data
in our hosted environment, all while maintaining the customer experience on
your site.

If you'd like to see a demo of our solution working in a GWT application,
please drop me an email.

Thanks,

Evan
evan.r...@crecommerce.com

SAQ-C : https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/saq/docs/aoc_saq_c.doc
PCI-DSS:
https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/security_standards/pci_dss_download.html


On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Yozons Support on Gmail
wrote:

> This has gone off-topic, so I won't belabor my point, but the PCI
> principles clearly show it's more geared towards the server-side, as the
> browser itself never had to be "PCI compliant" or any such rubbish.  And no
> GWT interface tool can ensure PCI compliance either.  A server that has gone
> through the compliance analysis is key, so if that part is taken over with
> the GWT interface, then I surely understand that.
>
> The core of the PCI DSS is a group of principles and accompanying
> requirements, around which the specific elements of the DSS are organized:
>
> *Build and Maintain a Secure Network*
>
> *Requirement 1:* Install and maintain a firewall configuration to protect
> cardholder data
> *Requirement 2:* Do not use vendor-supplied defaults for system passwords
> and other security parameters
>
> *Protect Cardholder Data*
>
> *Requirement 3:* Protect stored cardholder data
> *Requirement 4:* Encrypt transmission of cardholder data across open,
> public networks
>
> *Maintain a Vulnerability Management Program*
>
> *Requirement 5:* Use and regularly update anti-virus software
> *Requirement 6:* Develop and maintain secure systems and applications
>
> *Implement Strong Access Control Measures*
>
> *Requirement 7:* Restrict access to cardholder data by business
> need-to-know
> *Requirement 8:* Assign a unique ID to each person with computer access
> *Requirement 9:* Restrict physical access to cardholder data
>
> *Regularly Monitor and Test Networks*
>
> *Requirement 10:* Track and monitor all access to network resources and
> cardholder data
> *Requirement 11:* Regularly test security systems and processes
>
> *Maintain an Information Security Policy*
>
> *Requirement 12:* Maintain a policy that addresses information security
>
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Re: GWT PCI Compliance Toolkit

2009-11-16 Thread Yozons Support on Gmail
This has gone off-topic, so I won't belabor my point, but the PCI principles
clearly show it's more geared towards the server-side, as the browser itself
never had to be "PCI compliant" or any such rubbish.  And no GWT interface
tool can ensure PCI compliance either.  A server that has gone through the
compliance analysis is key, so if that part is taken over with the GWT
interface, then I surely understand that.

The core of the PCI DSS is a group of principles and accompanying
requirements, around which the specific elements of the DSS are organized:

*Build and Maintain a Secure Network*

*Requirement 1:* Install and maintain a firewall configuration to protect
cardholder data
*Requirement 2:* Do not use vendor-supplied defaults for system passwords
and other security parameters

*Protect Cardholder Data*

*Requirement 3:* Protect stored cardholder data
*Requirement 4:* Encrypt transmission of cardholder data across open, public
networks

*Maintain a Vulnerability Management Program*

*Requirement 5:* Use and regularly update anti-virus software
*Requirement 6:* Develop and maintain secure systems and applications

*Implement Strong Access Control Measures*

*Requirement 7:* Restrict access to cardholder data by business need-to-know
*Requirement 8:* Assign a unique ID to each person with computer access
*Requirement 9:* Restrict physical access to cardholder data

*Regularly Monitor and Test Networks*

*Requirement 10:* Track and monitor all access to network resources and
cardholder data
*Requirement 11:* Regularly test security systems and processes

*Maintain an Information Security Policy*

*Requirement 12:* Maintain a policy that addresses information security

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Re: GWT PCI Compliance Toolkit

2009-11-16 Thread Evan Ruff
Yozons,

You're running into one of the most common PCI Compliance
misconceptions: just because you don't store the card data does not
mean you're compliant. If the application touches the card data IN ANY
WAY, even just to immediately transmit to the gateway, you must have
your application served in a PCI-Compliant data center, be subjected
to PCI change control guidelines and have your application undergo PCI-
DSS auditing.

Our solution pulls the handling of the actual card data out of the
scope of the application. Because the style and functional operation
of the module is defined by your application, the secure processing is
completely transparent to the user. The customer experience is
completely maintained on your site. The card data is handled 100% on
the CRE Secure side, giving your application PCI Compliance and still
allowing the application to process card data.

Thanks!

Evan

On Nov 16, 12:55 pm, Yozons Support on Gmail  wrote:
> Isn't most PCI compliance related to the server?  GWT only holds the
> information a short time to make a payment and shouldn't normally hold on to
> the data after submitting it for processing.  How does your GWT help with
> PCI compliance since this would also require your server and server code to
> be compliant.  Furthermore, if using a payment gateway, you shouldn't even
> have to store the payment information locally and thus avoid most PCI
> compliance issues.

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Re: GWT PCI Compliance Toolkit

2009-11-16 Thread Yozons Support on Gmail
Isn't most PCI compliance related to the server?  GWT only holds the
information a short time to make a payment and shouldn't normally hold on to
the data after submitting it for processing.  How does your GWT help with
PCI compliance since this would also require your server and server code to
be compliant.  Furthermore, if using a payment gateway, you shouldn't even
have to store the payment information locally and thus avoid most PCI
compliance issues.

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Re: GWT PCI Compliance Toolkit

2009-11-16 Thread Duong BaTien
We are still in development mode and have not fully committed to any
yet. Please keep in touch.

Duong BaTien
DBGROUPS and BudhNet

On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 11:17 -0500, Evan Ruff wrote:
> Hey Duong,
> 
> 
> We're preparing to roll out our PCI compliance solution. I was
> wondering which gateway you are using to process your payments.
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Evan
> 
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Duong BaTien 
> wrote:
> 
> Please announce your release and put me duong.bat...@gmail.com
> in your
> list. We use GWT to develop a new E-Commerce system.
> 
> Duong BaTien
> DBGROUPS and BudhNet
> 
> On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 05:20 -0700, Evan Ruff wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I'm the project lead on CRE Secure's new iFrame Hosted
> Payment Page
> > solution (http://www.cresecure.com). I've been a big GWT guy
> since
> > back around 1.5RC1 so I've had a special eye on the GWT-
> centric issues
> > around PCI Compliance, especially from a application
> control/look-and-
> > feel standpoint. The current solution is packaged as a JAR
> and
> > contains a number of hooks to help with the GWT integration.
> The
> > solution gives the developer maximum control over the form,
> rendering,
> > display and callback of the entire payment process, all
> while
> > maintaining PCI compliance without leaving your application.
> >
> > We're looking to release the platform sometime in early
> October and
> > are looking for early beta testers to help test our
> implementation. We
> > are certified to the Authroize.net Platform and the Chase
> Paymentech
> > (Tampa and Salem) Platform and are looking to get the JAR
> into
> > people's hands a soon as possible. If you accept credit
> cards in your
> > application and are not yet PCI Compliant, we'd like to help
> you get
> > there.
> >
> > Send me an email or reply to this thread and we'll get in
> touch. We've
> > got a demo up and running that I'd love to walk through to
> show
> > exactly what it can do. Also, if anyone has any PCI
> Compliance
> > questions feel free to drop me a line our check out our site
> at
> > http://www.cresecure.com.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Evan Ruff
> > evan.r...@hendersonsawmill.com
> > Enterprise Development
> > CRE Secure
> > >
> 
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Re: GWT PCI Compliance Toolkit

2009-11-16 Thread Evan Ruff
Hey Duong,

We're preparing to roll out our PCI compliance solution. I was wondering
which gateway you are using to process your payments.

Thanks!

Evan

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Duong BaTien  wrote:

>
> Please announce your release and put me duong.bat...@gmail.com in your
> list. We use GWT to develop a new E-Commerce system.
>
> Duong BaTien
> DBGROUPS and BudhNet
>
> On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 05:20 -0700, Evan Ruff wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I'm the project lead on CRE Secure's new iFrame Hosted Payment Page
> > solution (http://www.cresecure.com). I've been a big GWT guy since
> > back around 1.5RC1 so I've had a special eye on the GWT-centric issues
> > around PCI Compliance, especially from a application control/look-and-
> > feel standpoint. The current solution is packaged as a JAR and
> > contains a number of hooks to help with the GWT integration. The
> > solution gives the developer maximum control over the form, rendering,
> > display and callback of the entire payment process, all while
> > maintaining PCI compliance without leaving your application.
> >
> > We're looking to release the platform sometime in early October and
> > are looking for early beta testers to help test our implementation. We
> > are certified to the Authroize.net Platform and the Chase Paymentech
> > (Tampa and Salem) Platform and are looking to get the JAR into
> > people's hands a soon as possible. If you accept credit cards in your
> > application and are not yet PCI Compliant, we'd like to help you get
> > there.
> >
> > Send me an email or reply to this thread and we'll get in touch. We've
> > got a demo up and running that I'd love to walk through to show
> > exactly what it can do. Also, if anyone has any PCI Compliance
> > questions feel free to drop me a line our check out our site at
> > http://www.cresecure.com.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Evan Ruff
> > evan.r...@hendersonsawmill.com
> > Enterprise Development
> > CRE Secure
> > >
>
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Re: GWT PCI Compliance Toolkit

2009-10-02 Thread Duong BaTien

Please announce your release and put me duong.bat...@gmail.com in your
list. We use GWT to develop a new E-Commerce system.

Duong BaTien
DBGROUPS and BudhNet

On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 05:20 -0700, Evan Ruff wrote:
> Hey guys,
> 
> I'm the project lead on CRE Secure's new iFrame Hosted Payment Page
> solution (http://www.cresecure.com). I've been a big GWT guy since
> back around 1.5RC1 so I've had a special eye on the GWT-centric issues
> around PCI Compliance, especially from a application control/look-and-
> feel standpoint. The current solution is packaged as a JAR and
> contains a number of hooks to help with the GWT integration. The
> solution gives the developer maximum control over the form, rendering,
> display and callback of the entire payment process, all while
> maintaining PCI compliance without leaving your application.
> 
> We're looking to release the platform sometime in early October and
> are looking for early beta testers to help test our implementation. We
> are certified to the Authroize.net Platform and the Chase Paymentech
> (Tampa and Salem) Platform and are looking to get the JAR into
> people's hands a soon as possible. If you accept credit cards in your
> application and are not yet PCI Compliant, we'd like to help you get
> there.
> 
> Send me an email or reply to this thread and we'll get in touch. We've
> got a demo up and running that I'd love to walk through to show
> exactly what it can do. Also, if anyone has any PCI Compliance
> questions feel free to drop me a line our check out our site at
> http://www.cresecure.com.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Evan Ruff
> evan.r...@hendersonsawmill.com
> Enterprise Development
> CRE Secure
> > 


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GWT PCI Compliance Toolkit

2009-10-02 Thread Evan Ruff

Hey guys,

I'm the project lead on CRE Secure's new iFrame Hosted Payment Page
solution (http://www.cresecure.com). I've been a big GWT guy since
back around 1.5RC1 so I've had a special eye on the GWT-centric issues
around PCI Compliance, especially from a application control/look-and-
feel standpoint. The current solution is packaged as a JAR and
contains a number of hooks to help with the GWT integration. The
solution gives the developer maximum control over the form, rendering,
display and callback of the entire payment process, all while
maintaining PCI compliance without leaving your application.

We're looking to release the platform sometime in early October and
are looking for early beta testers to help test our implementation. We
are certified to the Authroize.net Platform and the Chase Paymentech
(Tampa and Salem) Platform and are looking to get the JAR into
people's hands a soon as possible. If you accept credit cards in your
application and are not yet PCI Compliant, we'd like to help you get
there.

Send me an email or reply to this thread and we'll get in touch. We've
got a demo up and running that I'd love to walk through to show
exactly what it can do. Also, if anyone has any PCI Compliance
questions feel free to drop me a line our check out our site at
http://www.cresecure.com.

Thanks!

Evan Ruff
evan.r...@hendersonsawmill.com
Enterprise Development
CRE Secure
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