GWT app development in teams
Hello all I'm looking for best practices in developing GWT apps. Let's assume we are 3-5 programmers working on a fairly big GWT app. I could not find any straightforward information on this. Maybe because it's absolutely clear for most developers or maybe there are just too many possible solutions. I know that this is not just a GWT specific question. Anyways, back to our scenario. Let's assume its an GWT app with a database behind, and using JAVA in the backend. Everything is working on Linux basis. My situation: I'm developing and debugging locally, then deploy the .war file manually on my tomcat server. This works fine when working alone. Now, a couple of friends want to join in. The whole thing gets complex. What setup (e.g. server, software) would you use to handle such a scenario? Here are a couple thoughts I ran into: 1. Should each developer develop and debug locally (sharing files via subversion) ? There is a big down-side on this. Each developer needs to do the server configuration in order to keep the app running locally. Is there an alternative? 2. How can one add server-side debug ability to the test server? On the test server runs the app in hosted mode. How can errors, warnings be stored and outputted to the developer? Is there a software or do you work with error logs? 3. How can one export the files from a test server to a production server? Is there any software which supports such function? I'm programming for quite a while now, but I don't have any experiences in programming together with other developers. So, basically I would love to know anything how you guys develop GWT apps in teams. Please let me know if I shall be more precise. Thanks for your tips! benjamin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: GWT app development in teams
Hi Ben, we're working in 10 people on a big gwt project. Some people work in office, some remotely. I think the problem in your scenario is My situation: I'm developing and debugging locally, then deploy the .war file manually on my tomcat server. everything should be done automatically either by maven or by an ant task. Then after the commit we have a CI server (hudson) that run tests and deploy it in a preprod env. All the debug is done locally. We have 2 main scripts, one for run in hosted mode and another for run on jetty. CI server deploy it on a Jboss configured like in production. hope this can help you. cheers Uberto On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Ben benjamin.groehb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all I'm looking for best practices in developing GWT apps. Let's assume we are 3-5 programmers working on a fairly big GWT app. I could not find any straightforward information on this. Maybe because it's absolutely clear for most developers or maybe there are just too many possible solutions. I know that this is not just a GWT specific question. Anyways, back to our scenario. Let's assume its an GWT app with a database behind, and using JAVA in the backend. Everything is working on Linux basis. My situation: I'm developing and debugging locally, then deploy the .war file manually on my tomcat server. This works fine when working alone. Now, a couple of friends want to join in. The whole thing gets complex. What setup (e.g. server, software) would you use to handle such a scenario? Here are a couple thoughts I ran into: 1. Should each developer develop and debug locally (sharing files via subversion) ? There is a big down-side on this. Each developer needs to do the server configuration in order to keep the app running locally. Is there an alternative? 2. How can one add server-side debug ability to the test server? On the test server runs the app in hosted mode. How can errors, warnings be stored and outputted to the developer? Is there a software or do you work with error logs? 3. How can one export the files from a test server to a production server? Is there any software which supports such function? I'm programming for quite a while now, but I don't have any experiences in programming together with other developers. So, basically I would love to know anything how you guys develop GWT apps in teams. Please let me know if I shall be more precise. Thanks for your tips! benjamin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: GWT app development in teams
If it's a new project and you're not tied to a specific backend, you could could consider deploying on AppEngine. This has been very efficient for our team where every developer works remotely. AppEngine offers a standardized built-in environment right in eclipse so everybody can test locally with good confidence that the behavior will be the same on the deployed version. We also use continuous deployment to a (free) AppEngine account, our continuous integration solution is TeamCity with a relatively simple ant script. Other practices we use and I would recommend: - DVCS (we use mercurial hosted on bitbucket) - Use a highly decoupled architecture, consider an MVP framework. (we use gwt-platform) - Heavily unit test (we use JUnit4, mockito) - Use DI to simplify the two above (we use GIN and Guice) - Use integration testing (we're still experimenting tools in this area) - Asynchronous code reviews (rietveld works really well for us) - Use UiBinder so that you can easily port HTML mockups to GWT. - Find a good tool to monitor your dev process (we use AgileZen) Cheers, Philippe On Jul 22, 8:59 am, Uberto Barbini ube...@ubiland.net wrote: Hi Ben, we're working in 10 people on a big gwt project. Some people work in office, some remotely. I think the problem in your scenario is My situation: I'm developing and debugging locally, then deploy the .war file manually on my tomcat server. everything should be done automatically either by maven or by an ant task. Then after the commit we have a CI server (hudson) that run tests and deploy it in a preprod env. All the debug is done locally. We have 2 main scripts, one for run in hosted mode and another for run on jetty. CI server deploy it on a Jboss configured like in production. hope this can help you. cheers Uberto On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Ben benjamin.groehb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all I'm looking for best practices in developing GWT apps. Let's assume we are 3-5 programmers working on a fairly big GWT app. I could not find any straightforward information on this. Maybe because it's absolutely clear for most developers or maybe there are just too many possible solutions. I know that this is not just a GWT specific question. Anyways, back to our scenario. Let's assume its an GWT app with a database behind, and using JAVA in the backend. Everything is working on Linux basis. My situation: I'm developing and debugging locally, then deploy the .war file manually on my tomcat server. This works fine when working alone. Now, a couple of friends want to join in. The whole thing gets complex. What setup (e.g. server, software) would you use to handle such a scenario? Here are a couple thoughts I ran into: 1. Should each developer develop and debug locally (sharing files via subversion) ? There is a big down-side on this. Each developer needs to do the server configuration in order to keep the app running locally. Is there an alternative? 2. How can one add server-side debug ability to the test server? On the test server runs the app in hosted mode. How can errors, warnings be stored and outputted to the developer? Is there a software or do you work with error logs? 3. How can one export the files from a test server to a production server? Is there any software which supports such function? I'm programming for quite a while now, but I don't have any experiences in programming together with other developers. So, basically I would love to know anything how you guys develop GWT apps in teams. Please let me know if I shall be more precise. Thanks for your tips! benjamin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: GWT app development in teams
Hi Phil What intgr. test tools are you evaluating? I am evaluating selenium. I like selenium IDE, but I think it is a little fragile. /FLemming On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:44 PM, PhilBeaudoin philippe.beaud...@gmail.comwrote: If it's a new project and you're not tied to a specific backend, you could could consider deploying on AppEngine. This has been very efficient for our team where every developer works remotely. AppEngine offers a standardized built-in environment right in eclipse so everybody can test locally with good confidence that the behavior will be the same on the deployed version. We also use continuous deployment to a (free) AppEngine account, our continuous integration solution is TeamCity with a relatively simple ant script. Other practices we use and I would recommend: - DVCS (we use mercurial hosted on bitbucket) - Use a highly decoupled architecture, consider an MVP framework. (we use gwt-platform) - Heavily unit test (we use JUnit4, mockito) - Use DI to simplify the two above (we use GIN and Guice) - Use integration testing (we're still experimenting tools in this area) - Asynchronous code reviews (rietveld works really well for us) - Use UiBinder so that you can easily port HTML mockups to GWT. - Find a good tool to monitor your dev process (we use AgileZen) Cheers, Philippe On Jul 22, 8:59 am, Uberto Barbini ube...@ubiland.net wrote: Hi Ben, we're working in 10 people on a big gwt project. Some people work in office, some remotely. I think the problem in your scenario is My situation: I'm developing and debugging locally, then deploy the .war file manually on my tomcat server. everything should be done automatically either by maven or by an ant task. Then after the commit we have a CI server (hudson) that run tests and deploy it in a preprod env. All the debug is done locally. We have 2 main scripts, one for run in hosted mode and another for run on jetty. CI server deploy it on a Jboss configured like in production. hope this can help you. cheers Uberto On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Ben benjamin.groehb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all I'm looking for best practices in developing GWT apps. Let's assume we are 3-5 programmers working on a fairly big GWT app. I could not find any straightforward information on this. Maybe because it's absolutely clear for most developers or maybe there are just too many possible solutions. I know that this is not just a GWT specific question. Anyways, back to our scenario. Let's assume its an GWT app with a database behind, and using JAVA in the backend. Everything is working on Linux basis. My situation: I'm developing and debugging locally, then deploy the .war file manually on my tomcat server. This works fine when working alone. Now, a couple of friends want to join in. The whole thing gets complex. What setup (e.g. server, software) would you use to handle such a scenario? Here are a couple thoughts I ran into: 1. Should each developer develop and debug locally (sharing files via subversion) ? There is a big down-side on this. Each developer needs to do the server configuration in order to keep the app running locally. Is there an alternative? 2. How can one add server-side debug ability to the test server? On the test server runs the app in hosted mode. How can errors, warnings be stored and outputted to the developer? Is there a software or do you work with error logs? 3. How can one export the files from a test server to a production server? Is there any software which supports such function? I'm programming for quite a while now, but I don't have any experiences in programming together with other developers. So, basically I would love to know anything how you guys develop GWT apps in teams. Please let me know if I shall be more precise. Thanks for your tips! benjamin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-web-toolkit%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-web-toolkit%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to
Re: GWT app development in teams
On 22 juil, 17:59, Uberto Barbini ube...@ubiland.net wrote: Hi Ben, we're working in 10 people on a big gwt project. Some people work in office, some remotely. I think the problem in your scenario is My situation: I'm developing and debugging locally, then deploy the .war file manually on my tomcat server. everything should be done automatically either by maven or by an ant task. ...or manually (by the project leader generally), but always based on some revision on the SCM (we use Subversion), never on some local working copy. Then after the commit we have a CI server (hudson) that run tests and deploy it in a preprod env. All the debug is done locally. Same here in our new project. The old one was deployed manually: we had a shell script on the test server that rm workingcopy, then svn co, and finally ant build install (we used ant, we're now using maven in our new project). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
