Re: Is GWT 3.0 /GWT 2.9 dead?

[Craig Mitchell]

>
> *GWT is for large projects.*


GWT is also great for small projects.  I'm using it for a little game I 
made  https://drift.team/  It's brilliant, as I can reuse the game logic 
code, to replay the game on the server, and make sure the person didn't 
hack the game and cheat.  :D

Big thanks to the community for keeping GWT going.  Looking forward to 
GWT3.0!

I do wonder if/when WASM supports garbage collection, then it'd be possible 
to make a good Java to WASM compiler.  GWT would then have some serious 
competition.

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Re: Is GWT 3.0 /GWT 2.9 dead?

[Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez]

It is great to know we can use the snapshot with support for Java 11 
already!
Unfortunately, except for the GWT team and those that follow the project 
closely, it looks like GWT is stuck at the 2.8.2 release 2.5 years ago, 
because the GWT official website contains no information on this. Maybe it 
would be good to put some text in the home page pointing to this.
I'm surely much more optimistic now that I know there is an usable updated 
version.
Great work, guys!

Em quinta-feira, 20 de fevereiro de 2020 08:01:43 UTC-3, Ahmad Bawaneh 
escreveu:
>
> And lets not forget that it is not so long since j2cl was made public.
>
> On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 1:00:33 PM UTC+2, Ahmad Bawaneh wrote:
>>
>> You dont need to maintain a separate branch or code base, you can use the 
>> latest snapshot which is as stable as a release, i am pretty sure when 2.9 
>> is release you will only need to switch version and everything still works, 
>> if you can use the snapshot for some reason you can use the unofficial 
>> release as discussed here 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-web-toolkit/qmwiMVofhR8/discussion
>>  or 
>> you can fork and release internally.
>>
>> and the community work, we need to know that the active members in the 
>> community is small, that is said we could have made a GWT3.0 a lot earlier, 
>> we could have focused in shipping a working maven plugin for j2cl and call 
>> the day, but most of the efforts is focused in making sure that old apps 
>> will be able to migrate to gwt3.0 without much effort and this part in 
>> specific is very important and very hard and consumes a lot of time, GWT 
>> apps in general are big apps and making GWT3.0 that only works for new apps 
>> only or requires app rewrite does not make any sense.
>>
>> to get more insight on what have been done check this list
>>
>> https://ci.vertispan.com/ 
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 3:21:03 PM UTC+2, Luis Fernando 
>> Planella Gonzalez wrote:
>>>
>>> It has always been said that GWT is active when similar questions are 
>>> asked in the forum.
>>> However, given that the last version, 2.8.2, was released on Oct 19, 
>>> 2017 and was a bugfix for the 2.8.0 version, released on Oct 20, 2016, I 
>>> can't see it as "active".
>>> At least it smells bad!
>>> Even the 1.0 release of Elemental can't be used, because it requires 
>>> newer components than the pre-packaged version.
>>> It is a sad thing, because I work on a large project using GWT since its 
>>> 1.5.0 version, and our project is actively developed and still evolving.
>>> I hope GWT 2.9 is out "soon", because we're planning to switch to Java 
>>> 11 in the coming months, and it would be a burden to maintain a separated 
>>> Java version only for the frontend part (been there, done that with Java 8).
>>> The fact is that since Google left the project, things are way too slow.
>>> Understandable, as it is based on best effor from the brave developers, 
>>> but still disheartening.
>>> Still, I don't loose hope that GWT will be still maintained.
>>>
>>> Em terça-feira, 18 de fevereiro de 2020 12:08:40 UTC-3, Jeff Zemsky 
>>> escreveu:

 Frank - Thanks for the reply, but it would be good to understand the 
 plans to complete the GWT 2.9 release - particularly with reference to 
 Java 
 11 support.  Any insight there?

 On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 4:23:09 AM UTC-5, Frank Hossfeld wrote:
>
> Atm the community is very active. We are working on GWT modules: 
> replacing generators and JSNI, testig the migraed moules against J2CL, 
> etc.
> Besides that, many new frameworks are evolving.
>
> Take a look at this rooms:
> https://gitter.im/gwtproject/gwt
> https://gitter.im/vertispan/j2cl
> https://gitter.im/DominoKit/domino
> to get more infos.
>


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Re: Is GWT 3.0 /GWT 2.9 dead?

[Ahmad Bawaneh]

And lets not forget that it is not so long since j2cl was made public.

On Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 1:00:33 PM UTC+2, Ahmad Bawaneh wrote:
>
> You dont need to maintain a separate branch or code base, you can use the 
> latest snapshot which is as stable as a release, i am pretty sure when 2.9 
> is release you will only need to switch version and everything still works, 
> if you can use the snapshot for some reason you can use the unofficial 
> release as discussed here 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-web-toolkit/qmwiMVofhR8/discussion
>  or 
> you can fork and release internally.
>
> and the community work, we need to know that the active members in the 
> community is small, that is said we could have made a GWT3.0 a lot earlier, 
> we could have focused in shipping a working maven plugin for j2cl and call 
> the day, but most of the efforts is focused in making sure that old apps 
> will be able to migrate to gwt3.0 without much effort and this part in 
> specific is very important and very hard and consumes a lot of time, GWT 
> apps in general are big apps and making GWT3.0 that only works for new apps 
> only or requires app rewrite does not make any sense.
>
> to get more insight on what have been done check this list
>
> https://ci.vertispan.com/ 
>
> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 3:21:03 PM UTC+2, Luis Fernando 
> Planella Gonzalez wrote:
>>
>> It has always been said that GWT is active when similar questions are 
>> asked in the forum.
>> However, given that the last version, 2.8.2, was released on Oct 19, 2017 
>> and was a bugfix for the 2.8.0 version, released on Oct 20, 2016, I can't 
>> see it as "active".
>> At least it smells bad!
>> Even the 1.0 release of Elemental can't be used, because it requires 
>> newer components than the pre-packaged version.
>> It is a sad thing, because I work on a large project using GWT since its 
>> 1.5.0 version, and our project is actively developed and still evolving.
>> I hope GWT 2.9 is out "soon", because we're planning to switch to Java 11 
>> in the coming months, and it would be a burden to maintain a separated Java 
>> version only for the frontend part (been there, done that with Java 8).
>> The fact is that since Google left the project, things are way too slow.
>> Understandable, as it is based on best effor from the brave developers, 
>> but still disheartening.
>> Still, I don't loose hope that GWT will be still maintained.
>>
>> Em terça-feira, 18 de fevereiro de 2020 12:08:40 UTC-3, Jeff Zemsky 
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Frank - Thanks for the reply, but it would be good to understand the 
>>> plans to complete the GWT 2.9 release - particularly with reference to Java 
>>> 11 support.  Any insight there?
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 4:23:09 AM UTC-5, Frank Hossfeld wrote:

 Atm the community is very active. We are working on GWT modules: 
 replacing generators and JSNI, testig the migraed moules against J2CL, etc.
 Besides that, many new frameworks are evolving.

 Take a look at this rooms:
 https://gitter.im/gwtproject/gwt
 https://gitter.im/vertispan/j2cl
 https://gitter.im/DominoKit/domino
 to get more infos.

>>>

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Re: Is GWT 3.0 /GWT 2.9 dead?

[Ahmad Bawaneh]

You dont need to maintain a separate branch or code base, you can use the 
latest snapshot which is as stable as a release, i am pretty sure when 2.9 
is release you will only need to switch version and everything still works, 
if you can use the snapshot for some reason you can use the unofficial 
release as discussed here 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-web-toolkit/qmwiMVofhR8/discussion
 or 
you can fork and release internally.

and the community work, we need to know that the active members in the 
community is small, that is said we could have made a GWT3.0 a lot earlier, 
we could have focused in shipping a working maven plugin for j2cl and call 
the day, but most of the efforts is focused in making sure that old apps 
will be able to migrate to gwt3.0 without much effort and this part in 
specific is very important and very hard and consumes a lot of time, GWT 
apps in general are big apps and making GWT3.0 that only works for new apps 
only or requires app rewrite does not make any sense.

to get more insight on what have been done check this list

https://ci.vertispan.com/ 

On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 3:21:03 PM UTC+2, Luis Fernando Planella 
Gonzalez wrote:
>
> It has always been said that GWT is active when similar questions are 
> asked in the forum.
> However, given that the last version, 2.8.2, was released on Oct 19, 2017 
> and was a bugfix for the 2.8.0 version, released on Oct 20, 2016, I can't 
> see it as "active".
> At least it smells bad!
> Even the 1.0 release of Elemental can't be used, because it requires newer 
> components than the pre-packaged version.
> It is a sad thing, because I work on a large project using GWT since its 
> 1.5.0 version, and our project is actively developed and still evolving.
> I hope GWT 2.9 is out "soon", because we're planning to switch to Java 11 
> in the coming months, and it would be a burden to maintain a separated Java 
> version only for the frontend part (been there, done that with Java 8).
> The fact is that since Google left the project, things are way too slow.
> Understandable, as it is based on best effor from the brave developers, 
> but still disheartening.
> Still, I don't loose hope that GWT will be still maintained.
>
> Em terça-feira, 18 de fevereiro de 2020 12:08:40 UTC-3, Jeff Zemsky 
> escreveu:
>>
>> Frank - Thanks for the reply, but it would be good to understand the 
>> plans to complete the GWT 2.9 release - particularly with reference to Java 
>> 11 support.  Any insight there?
>>
>> On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 4:23:09 AM UTC-5, Frank Hossfeld wrote:
>>>
>>> Atm the community is very active. We are working on GWT modules: 
>>> replacing generators and JSNI, testig the migraed moules against J2CL, etc.
>>> Besides that, many new frameworks are evolving.
>>>
>>> Take a look at this rooms:
>>> https://gitter.im/gwtproject/gwt
>>> https://gitter.im/vertispan/j2cl
>>> https://gitter.im/DominoKit/domino
>>> to get more infos.
>>>
>>

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Re: Is GWT 3.0 /GWT 2.9 dead?

[Peter Donald]

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 8:58 AM Jens  wrote:

>
> I hope GWT 2.9 is out "soon", because we're planning to switch to Java 11
>> in the coming months, and it would be a burden to maintain a separated Java
>> version only for the frontend part (been there, done that with Java 8).
>>
>
> Java 11 syntax additions are available in GWT snapshot releases:
> https://gwt-review.googlesource.com/c/gwt/+/21540
>

And in an unofficial release in Maven central ;)

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-web-toolkit/qmwiMVofhR8/discussion

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Re: Is GWT 3.0 /GWT 2.9 dead?

[Jens]

> I hope GWT 2.9 is out "soon", because we're planning to switch to Java 11 
> in the coming months, and it would be a burden to maintain a separated Java 
> version only for the frontend part (been there, done that with Java 8).
>

Java 11 syntax additions are available in GWT snapshot releases: 
https://gwt-review.googlesource.com/c/gwt/+/21540

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Re: Is GWT 3.0 /GWT 2.9 dead?

[vitaly goji]

GWT WORKS. I use 2.8 and I don't see reason to upgrade or switch.
GWT is for large projects. You can use your widgets and GWT will provide
structure and tooling.

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 5:21 AM Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez <
lfpg@gmail.com> wrote:

> It has always been said that GWT is active when similar questions are
> asked in the forum.
> However, given that the last version, 2.8.2, was released on Oct 19, 2017
> and was a bugfix for the 2.8.0 version, released on Oct 20, 2016, I can't
> see it as "active".
> At least it smells bad!
> Even the 1.0 release of Elemental can't be used, because it requires newer
> components than the pre-packaged version.
> It is a sad thing, because I work on a large project using GWT since its
> 1.5.0 version, and our project is actively developed and still evolving.
> I hope GWT 2.9 is out "soon", because we're planning to switch to Java 11
> in the coming months, and it would be a burden to maintain a separated Java
> version only for the frontend part (been there, done that with Java 8).
> The fact is that since Google left the project, things are way too slow.
> Understandable, as it is based on best effor from the brave developers,
> but still disheartening.
> Still, I don't loose hope that GWT will be still maintained.
>
> Em terça-feira, 18 de fevereiro de 2020 12:08:40 UTC-3, Jeff Zemsky
> escreveu:
>>
>> Frank - Thanks for the reply, but it would be good to understand the
>> plans to complete the GWT 2.9 release - particularly with reference to Java
>> 11 support.  Any insight there?
>>
>> On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 4:23:09 AM UTC-5, Frank Hossfeld wrote:
>>>
>>> Atm the community is very active. We are working on GWT modules:
>>> replacing generators and JSNI, testig the migraed moules against J2CL, etc.
>>> Besides that, many new frameworks are evolving.
>>>
>>> Take a look at this rooms:
>>> https://gitter.im/gwtproject/gwt
>>> https://gitter.im/vertispan/j2cl
>>> https://gitter.im/DominoKit/domino
>>> to get more infos.
>>>
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Re: Is GWT 3.0 /GWT 2.9 dead?

[Luis Fernando Planella Gonzalez]

It has always been said that GWT is active when similar questions are asked 
in the forum.
However, given that the last version, 2.8.2, was released on Oct 19, 2017 
and was a bugfix for the 2.8.0 version, released on Oct 20, 2016, I can't 
see it as "active".
At least it smells bad!
Even the 1.0 release of Elemental can't be used, because it requires newer 
components than the pre-packaged version.
It is a sad thing, because I work on a large project using GWT since its 
1.5.0 version, and our project is actively developed and still evolving.
I hope GWT 2.9 is out "soon", because we're planning to switch to Java 11 
in the coming months, and it would be a burden to maintain a separated Java 
version only for the frontend part (been there, done that with Java 8).
The fact is that since Google left the project, things are way too slow.
Understandable, as it is based on best effor from the brave developers, but 
still disheartening.
Still, I don't loose hope that GWT will be still maintained.

Em terça-feira, 18 de fevereiro de 2020 12:08:40 UTC-3, Jeff Zemsky 
escreveu:
>
> Frank - Thanks for the reply, but it would be good to understand the plans 
> to complete the GWT 2.9 release - particularly with reference to Java 11 
> support.  Any insight there?
>
> On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 4:23:09 AM UTC-5, Frank Hossfeld wrote:
>>
>> Atm the community is very active. We are working on GWT modules: 
>> replacing generators and JSNI, testig the migraed moules against J2CL, etc.
>> Besides that, many new frameworks are evolving.
>>
>> Take a look at this rooms:
>> https://gitter.im/gwtproject/gwt
>> https://gitter.im/vertispan/j2cl
>> https://gitter.im/DominoKit/domino
>> to get more infos.
>>
>

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Re: Is GWT 3.0 /GWT 2.9 dead?

[Jeff Zemsky]

Frank - Thanks for the reply, but it would be good to understand the plans 
to complete the GWT 2.9 release - particularly with reference to Java 11 
support.  Any insight there?

On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 4:23:09 AM UTC-5, Frank Hossfeld wrote:
>
> Atm the community is very active. We are working on GWT modules: replacing 
> generators and JSNI, testig the migraed moules against J2CL, etc.
> Besides that, many new frameworks are evolving.
>
> Take a look at this rooms:
> https://gitter.im/gwtproject/gwt
> https://gitter.im/vertispan/j2cl
> https://gitter.im/DominoKit/domino
> to get more infos.
>

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Re: Is GWT 3.0 /GWT 2.9 dead?

[Frank Hossfeld]

Atm the community is very active. We are working on GWT modules: replacing 
generators and JSNI, testig the migraed moules against J2CL, etc.
Besides that, many new frameworks are evolving.

Take a look at this rooms:
https://gitter.im/gwtproject/gwt
https://gitter.im/vertispan/j2cl
https://gitter.im/DominoKit/domino
to get more infos.

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Re: Is GWT 3.0 /GWT 2.9 dead?

[Frank Hossfeld]

You should ask this question here: https://gitter.im/gwtproject/gwt

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