Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-16 Thread jus...@justinedelson.com
David-
I see that gwt-user and gwt-dev are up on central, but are you posting
gwt-servlet as well?

Thanks,
Justin

On Jul 14, 10:18 pm, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:
 Hangtight,folks,we'reon it. Ashasbeennotedin thisthread,GWT
 itself is not built with maven, so it's not a 100% automated process
 to push to maven central. Butwe'reworking hard to getgwt-user-2.0.4
 andgwt-dev-2.0.4 uploaded by Friday and to make deployment to maven
 central a part of future releases.

 David ChandlerGWTDeveloper Relations
 Atlanta, GA USA

 On Jul 14, 9:15 pm, David Vree david.h.v...@gmail.com wrote:



  Thanks for that.

  On Jul 14, 6:37 pm, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

   Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

   On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I would also wish that Google would takeMavenmore seriously. I can
 only recommend all that agree to star the issues regardingMavenin
 the bug tracker.

Here it is (the issue 
regardingMaven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-16 Thread David Chandler
Done.

Announcement here: 
http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/2010/07/gwt-204-now-available-in-maven-central.html

/dmc

On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, jus...@justinedelson.com
justinedel...@gmail.com wrote:
 David-
 I see that gwt-user and gwt-dev are up on central, but are you posting
 gwt-servlet as well?

 Thanks,
 Justin

 On Jul 14, 10:18 pm, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:



  Hangtight,folks,we'reon it. Ashasbeennotedin thisthread,GWT
  itself is not built with maven, so it's not a 100% automated process
  to push to maven central. Butwe'reworking hard to getgwt-user-2.0.4
  andgwt-dev-2.0.4 uploaded by Friday and to make deployment to maven
  central a part of future releases.

  David ChandlerGWTDeveloper Relations
  Atlanta, GA USA

  On Jul 14, 9:15 pm, David Vree david.h.v...@gmail.com wrote:

   Thanks for that.

   On Jul 14, 6:37 pm, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I would also wish that Google would takeMavenmore seriously. I can
  only recommend all that agree to star the issues regardingMavenin
  the bug tracker.

 Here it is (the issue 
 regardingMaven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

 There are only 23 stars so far.- Hide quoted text -

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-16 Thread jus...@justinedelson.com
Thanks. But... unfortunately, it looks like the exclusion of gwt-soyc-
vis means that 2.0.4 can't work with version 1.2 of the gwt-maven-
plugin. I understand gwt-soyc-vis is deprecated, but could you post it
anyway?

I can't post it to another repository because the artifact I'm working
on is destined for central and needs the whole transitive closure to
be available from central. For the same reason, I can't depend upon a
SNAPSHOT version of the gwt-maven-plugin.

Thanks,
Justin


On Jul 16, 4:12 pm, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:
 Done.

 Announcement 
 here:http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/2010/07/gwt-204-now-available-in...

 /dmc

 On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, jus...@justinedelson.com



 justinedel...@gmail.com wrote:
  David-
  I see that gwt-user and gwt-dev are up on central, but are you posting
  gwt-servlet as well?

  Thanks,
  Justin

  On Jul 14, 10:18 pm, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:

   Hangtight,folks,we'reon it. Ashasbeennotedin thisthread,GWT
   itself is not built with maven, so it's not a 100% automated process
   to push to maven central. Butwe'reworking hard to getgwt-user-2.0.4
   andgwt-dev-2.0.4 uploaded by Friday and to make deployment to maven
   central a part of future releases.

   David ChandlerGWTDeveloper Relations
   Atlanta, GA USA

   On Jul 14, 9:15 pm, David Vree david.h.v...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for that.

On Jul 14, 6:37 pm, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

 On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   I would also wish that Google would takeMavenmore seriously. I can
   only recommend all that agree to star the issues regardingMavenin
   the bug tracker.

  Here it is (the issue 
  regardingMaven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

  There are only 23 stars so far.- Hide quoted text -

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-16 Thread David Chandler
I went ahead and uploaded gwt-soyc-vis-2.0.4.jar because it is still
distributed in the GWT SDK download. Kindly log the plugin issue at
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MGWT.

Thank you,
/dmc

On Jul 16, 5:11 pm, jus...@justinedelson.com
justinedel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks. But... unfortunately, it looks like the exclusion of gwt-soyc-
 vis means that 2.0.4 can't work with version 1.2 of the gwt-maven-
 plugin. I understand gwt-soyc-vis is deprecated, but could you post it
 anyway?

 I can't post it to another repository because the artifact I'm working
 on is destined for central and needs the whole transitive closure to
 be available from central. For the same reason, I can't depend upon a
 SNAPSHOT version of the gwt-maven-plugin.

 Thanks,
 Justin

 On Jul 16, 4:12 pm, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:



  Done.

  Announcement 
  here:http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/2010/07/gwt-204-now-available-in...

  /dmc

  On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, jus...@justinedelson.com

  justinedel...@gmail.com wrote:
   David-
   I see that gwt-user and gwt-dev are up on central, but are you posting
   gwt-servlet as well?

   Thanks,
   Justin

   On Jul 14, 10:18 pm, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:

Hangtight,folks,we'reon it. Ashasbeennotedin thisthread,GWT
itself is not built withmaven, so it's not a 100% automated process
to push tomavencentral. Butwe'reworking hard to getgwt-user-2.0.4
andgwt-dev-2.0.4 uploaded by Friday and to make deployment tomaven
central a part of future releases.

David ChandlerGWTDeveloper Relations
Atlanta, GA USA

On Jul 14, 9:15 pm, David Vree david.h.v...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for that.

 On Jul 14, 6:37 pm, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

  Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

  On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen 
   kbhdk1...@gmail.com
   wrote:

I would also wish that Google would takeMavenmore seriously. I 
can
only recommend all that agree to star the issues 
regardingMavenin
the bug tracker.

   Here it is (the issue 
   regardingMaven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

   There are only 23 stars so far.- Hide quoted text -

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-16 Thread jus...@justinedelson.com
It looks like this is already fixed for 2.1. Do you plan on releasing
a 2.0.5 version? If not, it probably doesn't make sense to fix it.

Justin

On Jul 16, 10:18 pm, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:
 I went ahead and uploaded gwt-soyc-vis-2.0.4.jar because it is still
 distributed in the GWT SDK download. Kindly log the plugin issue 
 athttp://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MGWT.

 Thank you,
 /dmc

 On Jul 16, 5:11 pm, jus...@justinedelson.com



 justinedel...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks. But... unfortunately, it looks like the exclusion of gwt-soyc-
  vis means that 2.0.4 can't work with version 1.2 of the gwt-maven-
  plugin. I understand gwt-soyc-vis is deprecated, but could you post it
  anyway?

  I can't post it to another repository because the artifact I'm working
  on is destined for central and needs the whole transitive closure to
  be available from central. For the same reason, I can't depend upon a
  SNAPSHOT version of the gwt-maven-plugin.

  Thanks,
  Justin

  On Jul 16, 4:12 pm, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:

   Done.

   Announcement 
   here:http://googlewebtoolkit.blogspot.com/2010/07/gwt-204-now-available-in...

   /dmc

   On Jul 16, 1:04 pm, jus...@justinedelson.com

   justinedel...@gmail.com wrote:
David-
I see that gwt-user and gwt-dev are up on central, but are you posting
gwt-servlet as well?

Thanks,
Justin

On Jul 14, 10:18 pm, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:

 Hangtight,folks,we'reon it. Ashasbeennotedin thisthread,GWT
 itself is not built withmaven, so it's not a 100% automated process
 to push tomavencentral. Butwe'reworking hard to getgwt-user-2.0.4
 andgwt-dev-2.0.4 uploaded by Friday and to make deployment tomaven
 central a part of future releases.

 David ChandlerGWTDeveloper Relations
 Atlanta, GA USA

 On Jul 14, 9:15 pm, David Vree david.h.v...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks for that.

  On Jul 14, 6:37 pm, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

   Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

   On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen 
kbhdk1...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I would also wish that Google would takeMavenmore seriously. 
 I can
 only recommend all that agree to star the issues 
 regardingMavenin
 the bug tracker.

Here it is (the issue 
regardingMaven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

There are only 23 stars so far.- Hide quoted text -

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-15 Thread Kasper Hansen
Thats great news !!

Thanks David/GWT Team

:-) Kasper

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:18 AM, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:
 Hang tight, folks, we're on it. As has been noted in this thread, GWT
 itself is not built with maven, so it's not a 100% automated process
 to push to maven central. But we're working hard to get gwt-user-2.0.4
 and gwt-dev-2.0.4 uploaded by Friday and to make deployment to maven
 central a part of future releases.

 David Chandler
 GWT Developer Relations
 Atlanta, GA USA

 On Jul 14, 9:15 pm, David Vree david.h.v...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for that.

 On Jul 14, 6:37 pm, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:



  Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

  On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com
   wrote:

I would also wish that Google would takeMavenmore seriously. I can
only recommend all that agree to star the issues regardingMavenin
the bug tracker.

   Here it is (the issue 
   regardingMaven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

   There are only 23 stars so far.- Hide quoted text -

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-15 Thread Frederic Conrotte
Thanks for your efforts David.

On Jul 15, 4:18 am, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:
 Hang tight, folks, we're on it. As has been noted in this thread, GWT
 itself is not built with maven, so it's not a 100% automated process
 to push to maven central. But we're working hard to get gwt-user-2.0.4
 and gwt-dev-2.0.4 uploaded by Friday and to make deployment to maven
 central a part of future releases.

 David Chandler
 GWT Developer Relations
 Atlanta, GA USA

 On Jul 14, 9:15 pm, David Vree david.h.v...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks for that.

  On Jul 14, 6:37 pm, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

   Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

   On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I would also wish that Google would takeMavenmore seriously. I can
 only recommend all that agree to star the issues regardingMavenin
 the bug tracker.

Here it is (the issue 
regardingMaven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-15 Thread monkeyboy
Thanks GWT team.

On Jul 15, 4:18 am, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:
 Hang tight, folks, we're on it. As has been noted in this thread, GWT
 itself is not built with maven, so it's not a 100% automated process
 to push to maven central. But we're working hard to get gwt-user-2.0.4
 and gwt-dev-2.0.4 uploaded by Friday and to make deployment to maven
 central a part of future releases.

 David Chandler
 GWT Developer Relations
 Atlanta, GA USA

 On Jul 14, 9:15 pm, David Vree david.h.v...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks for that.

  On Jul 14, 6:37 pm, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

   Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

   On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I would also wish that Google would takeMavenmore seriously. I can
 only recommend all that agree to star the issues regardingMavenin
 the bug tracker.

Here it is (the issue 
regardingMaven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

There are only 23 stars so far.- Hide quoted text -

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-15 Thread andreas
Thanks David!

I'll spread the news in our team...

Andreas

On 15 Jul., 04:18, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:
 Hang tight, folks, we're on it. As has been noted in this thread, GWT
 itself is not built with maven, so it's not a 100% automated process
 to push to maven central. But we're working hard to get gwt-user-2.0.4
 and gwt-dev-2.0.4 uploaded by Friday and to make deployment to maven
 central a part of future releases.

 David Chandler
 GWT Developer Relations
 Atlanta, GA USA

 On Jul 14, 9:15 pm, David Vree david.h.v...@gmail.com wrote:



  Thanks for that.

  On Jul 14, 6:37 pm, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

   Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

   On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I would also wish that Google would takeMavenmore seriously. I can
 only recommend all that agree to star the issues regardingMavenin
 the bug tracker.

Here it is (the issue 
regardingMaven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-15 Thread monkeyboy
Now that I think about it this development was expected since Google
and WMWare decided to integrate GWT with Spring Roo which uses Maven
under the hood. The integration would not make sense if they did not
put the GWT libs in the repo. Will Google be developing a Maven plugin
(or contribute to the gwt-maven-plugin)? Any info on this David?

On Jul 15, 9:55 am, andreas horst.andrea...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Thanks David!

 I'll spread the news in our team...

 Andreas

 On 15 Jul., 04:18, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:

  Hang tight, folks, we're on it. As has been noted in this thread, GWT
  itself is not built with maven, so it's not a 100% automated process
  to push to maven central. But we're working hard to get gwt-user-2.0.4
  and gwt-dev-2.0.4 uploaded by Friday and to make deployment to maven
  central a part of future releases.

  David Chandler
  GWT Developer Relations
  Atlanta, GA USA

  On Jul 14, 9:15 pm, David Vree david.h.v...@gmail.com wrote:

   Thanks for that.

   On Jul 14, 6:37 pm, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I would also wish that Google would takeMavenmore seriously. I can
  only recommend all that agree to star the issues regardingMavenin
  the bug tracker.

 Here it is (the issue 
 regardingMaven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-15 Thread Thomas Broyer


On 15 juil, 14:52, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now that I think about it this development was expected since Google
 and WMWare decided to integrate GWT with Spring Roo which uses Maven
 under the hood. The integration would not make sense if they did not
 put the GWT libs in the repo. Will Google be developing a Maven plugin
 (or contribute to the gwt-maven-plugin)? Any info on this David?

They've patched the gwt-maven-plugin for the milestones, and they said
(here or in GWT-Contributors) that they'd contribute the changes back
to gwt-maven-plugin a bit later (this was in the I/O rush).
The patched plugin, as well as the 2.1 milestone artifacts can be
found at http://google-web-toolkit.googlecode.com/svn/2.1.0.M2/gwt/maven/
(replace M2 with M1 for the first milestone)

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-15 Thread Ben Harris
I build gwt with maven. I haven't checked if you do, but you don't/
shouldn't bundle the gwt-user dependencies with the artefact. Gwt-dev
needs all its dependencies bundled though; gwt-maven-plugin won't work
otherwise.

On Jul 15, 10:18 am, David Chandler drfibona...@google.com wrote:
 Hang tight, folks, we're on it. As has been noted in this thread, GWT
 itself is not built with maven, so it's not a 100% automated process
 to push to maven central. But we're working hard to get gwt-user-2.0.4
 and gwt-dev-2.0.4 uploaded by Friday and to make deployment to maven
 central a part of future releases.

 David Chandler
 GWT Developer Relations
 Atlanta, GA USA

 On Jul 14, 9:15 pm, David Vree david.h.v...@gmail.com wrote:



  Thanks for that.

  On Jul 14, 6:37 pm, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

   Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

   On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I would also wish that Google would takeMavenmore seriously. I can
 only recommend all that agree to star the issues regardingMavenin
 the bug tracker.

Here it is (the issue 
regardingMaven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-14 Thread monkeyboy
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I would also wish that Google would take Maven more seriously. I can
 only recommend all that agree to star the issues regarding Maven in
 the bug tracker.

Here it is (the issue regarding Maven):
http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

There are only 23 stars so far.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-14 Thread gustav
Richard raises a valid concern that is easy to fix with automated
script in the release process.

I have noticed it many times, and once again the attitude in the
responses is quite scary, it drives away the few serious people that
do indeed get interest for GWT.
The responses just show what a immature bunch of aggressive kids the
GWT users in general are, not problem solving and quality driven
professional software engineers.


On Jul 14, 7:14 am, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd say so.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jaroslav Záruba  jaroslav.zar...@gmail.com
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 Subject: Re: This is getting beyond a joke

 Or, maybe you're over-estimating importance of Maven for average
 GWT-developer...?

 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Richard Vowles 
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  We do host our own repository - thats not the point. The point is that
  thousands of people use GWT and use dependency management, not having
  it go into central as a matter of course is simply ridiculous! It is
  absolutely, point blank unprofessional.

  On Jul 13, 4:32 pm, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi

   If you need it that much, why don't you host your own repository, such as
  Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-14 Thread Christian Goudreau
I don't think real professionnel enjoying GWT as much as I do would answer
badly and I don't think either that it's gonna make em flee. There's alway a
Bob in a company that always answer stupidly. For me... what I love the
most NOT being maven is that it's even easier to get the best of the two
world.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying build process is faster or more
efficient, I just love not having to botter if repo is maven or not.

Cheers,

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:40 AM, gustav gustav.tr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Richard raises a valid concern that is easy to fix with automated
 script in the release process.

 I have noticed it many times, and once again the attitude in the
 responses is quite scary, it drives away the few serious people that
 do indeed get interest for GWT.
 The responses just show what a immature bunch of aggressive kids the
 GWT users in general are, not problem solving and quality driven
 professional software engineers.


 On Jul 14, 7:14 am, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd say so.
 
  -Original Message-
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  Subject: Re: This is getting beyond a joke
 
  Or, maybe you're over-estimating importance of Maven for average
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  On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Richard Vowles 
 richard.vow...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   We do host our own repository - thats not the point. The point is that
   thousands of people use GWT and use dependency management, not having
   it go into central as a matter of course is simply ridiculous! It is
   absolutely, point blank unprofessional.
 
   On Jul 13, 4:32 pm, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
 
If you need it that much, why don't you host your own repository,
 such as
   Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.
 
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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-14 Thread Jaroslav Záruba
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:40 AM, gustav gustav.tr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Richard raises a valid concern that is easy to fix with automated
 script in the release process.

 I have noticed it many times, and once again the attitude in the
 responses is quite scary, it drives away the few serious people that
 do indeed get interest for GWT.
 The responses just show what a immature bunch of aggressive kids the
 GWT users in general are, not problem solving and quality driven
 professional software engineers.


Please, do re-post single aggressive response.
Thank you!


 On Jul 14, 7:14 am, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd say so.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jaroslav Záruba  jaroslav.zar...@gmail.com
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  Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 04:10:37
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  Subject: Re: This is getting beyond a joke
 
  Or, maybe you're over-estimating importance of Maven for average
  GWT-developer...?
 
  On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Richard Vowles 
 richard.vow...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   We do host our own repository - thats not the point. The point is that
   thousands of people use GWT and use dependency management, not having
   it go into central as a matter of course is simply ridiculous! It is
   absolutely, point blank unprofessional.
 
   On Jul 13, 4:32 pm, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
 
If you need it that much, why don't you host your own repository,
 such as
   Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.
 
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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-14 Thread Jaroslav Záruba
Have you read the same conversation I did?

Look what subject has the original poster chosen:
*This is getting beyond a joke*
In my book this has way closer to being aggresssive than anything anyone
has replied so far.

*I understand that the Google guys don't use maven or ivy, but for those
who do (i.e. anyone serious about their builds reliability and
repeatability)*
Wow, so all of us who do not use Maven (the Google team including) are not
serious about their jobs.

*...not having it go into central as a matter of course is simply
ridiculous! It is absolutely, point blank unprofessional.*
:P


Again, who has been the aggressive one here??? And in what response exactly?


2010/7/14 Jaroslav Záruba jaroslav.zar...@gmail.com

 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:40 AM, gustav gustav.tr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Richard raises a valid concern that is easy to fix with automated
 script in the release process.

 I have noticed it many times, and once again the attitude in the
 responses is quite scary, it drives away the few serious people that
 do indeed get interest for GWT.
 The responses just show what a immature bunch of aggressive kids the
 GWT users in general are, not problem solving and quality driven
 professional software engineers.


 Please, do re-post single aggressive response.
 Thank you!


 On Jul 14, 7:14 am, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd say so.
 
  -Original Message-
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  Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 04:10:37
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  Subject: Re: This is getting beyond a joke
 
  Or, maybe you're over-estimating importance of Maven for average
  GWT-developer...?
 
  On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Richard Vowles 
 richard.vow...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   We do host our own repository - thats not the point. The point is that
   thousands of people use GWT and use dependency management, not having
   it go into central as a matter of course is simply ridiculous! It is
   absolutely, point blank unprofessional.
 
   On Jul 13, 4:32 pm, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
 
If you need it that much, why don't you host your own repository,
 such as
   Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.
 
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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-14 Thread Jaroslav Záruba
Nothing, of course.

Maybe next time, Gustav, you should read more carefully before you start
calling people immature aggressive kids.
Shame on you.

2010/7/14 Jaroslav Záruba jaroslav.zar...@gmail.com

 Have you read the same conversation I did?

 Look what subject has the original poster chosen:
 *This is getting beyond a joke*
 In my book this has way closer to being aggresssive than anything anyone
 has replied so far.

 *I understand that the Google guys don't use maven or ivy, but for those
 who do (i.e. anyone serious about their builds reliability and
 repeatability)*
 Wow, so all of us who do not use Maven (the Google team including) are not
 serious about their jobs.

 *...not having it go into central as a matter of course is simply
 ridiculous! It is absolutely, point blank unprofessional.*
 :P


 Again, who has been the aggressive one here??? And in what response
 exactly?


 2010/7/14 Jaroslav Záruba jaroslav.zar...@gmail.com

 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:40 AM, gustav gustav.tr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Richard raises a valid concern that is easy to fix with automated
 script in the release process.

 I have noticed it many times, and once again the attitude in the
 responses is quite scary, it drives away the few serious people that
 do indeed get interest for GWT.
 The responses just show what a immature bunch of aggressive kids the
 GWT users in general are, not problem solving and quality driven
 professional software engineers.


 Please, do re-post single aggressive response.
 Thank you!


 On Jul 14, 7:14 am, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd say so.
 
  -Original Message-
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  Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 04:10:37
  To: google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com
  Reply-To: google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: This is getting beyond a joke
 
  Or, maybe you're over-estimating importance of Maven for average
  GWT-developer...?
 
  On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Richard Vowles 
 richard.vow...@gmail.comwrote:
 
   We do host our own repository - thats not the point. The point is
 that
   thousands of people use GWT and use dependency management, not having
   it go into central as a matter of course is simply ridiculous! It is
   absolutely, point blank unprofessional.
 
   On Jul 13, 4:32 pm, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
 
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   Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.
 
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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-14 Thread David Vree
+!  Maven is critical to this developer

On Jul 14, 12:15 pm, Jaroslav Záruba jaroslav.zar...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Nothing, of course.

 Maybe next time, Gustav, you should read more carefully before you start
 calling people immature aggressive kids.
 Shame on you.

 2010/7/14 Jaroslav Záruba jaroslav.zar...@gmail.com

  Have you read the same conversation I did?

  Look what subject has the original poster chosen:
  *This is getting beyond a joke*
  In my book this has way closer to being aggresssive than anything anyone
  has replied so far.

  *I understand that the Google guys don't use maven or ivy, but for those
  who do (i.e. anyone serious about their builds reliability and
  repeatability)*
  Wow, so all of us who do not use Maven (the Google team including) are not
  serious about their jobs.

  *...not having it go into central as a matter of course is simply
  ridiculous! It is absolutely, point blank unprofessional.*
  :P

  Again, who has been the aggressive one here??? And in what response
  exactly?

  2010/7/14 Jaroslav Záruba jaroslav.zar...@gmail.com

  On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:40 AM, gustav gustav.tr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Richard raises a valid concern that is easy to fix with automated
  script in the release process.

  I have noticed it many times, and once again the attitude in the
  responses is quite scary, it drives away the few serious people that
  do indeed get interest for GWT.
  The responses just show what a immature bunch of aggressive kids the
  GWT users in general are, not problem solving and quality driven
  professional software engineers.

  Please, do re-post single aggressive response.
  Thank you!

  On Jul 14, 7:14 am, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
   I'd say so.

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   Subject: Re: This is getting beyond a joke

   Or, maybe you're over-estimating importance of Maven for average
   GWT-developer...?

   On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Richard Vowles 
  richard.vow...@gmail.comwrote:

We do host our own repository - thats not the point. The point is
  that
thousands of people use GWT and use dependency management, not having
it go into central as a matter of course is simply ridiculous! It is
absolutely, point blank unprofessional.

On Jul 13, 4:32 pm, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 If you need it that much, why don't you host your own repository,
  such as
Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-14 Thread nisse gammal
Jaroslav, your extreme reactions makes it self evident that you fit
the description =)

 calling people immature aggressive kids.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-14 Thread Jaroslav Záruba
All who have responded to the original poster were polite and reserved,
which was in contrast with two hysteric messages that started this thread.
After that, being called aggressive and immature is simply
absurd; definitely not deserved.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:32 PM, nisse gammal nissegam...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jaroslav, your extreme reactions makes it self evident that you fit
 the description =)


I'm very uncomfortable with being accused of things without a reason.


  calling people immature aggressive kids.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-14 Thread Daniel Jue
In any case, thanks for bringing the issue 4673 to my attention, so I
could star it.

Life is to short to complain.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-14 Thread monkeyboy
Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I would also wish that Google would take Maven more seriously. I can
  only recommend all that agree to star the issues regarding Maven in
  the bug tracker.

 Here it is (the issue regarding 
 Maven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

 There are only 23 stars so far.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-14 Thread David Vree
Thanks for that.

On Jul 14, 6:37 pm, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

 On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   I would also wish that Google would take Maven more seriously. I can
   only recommend all that agree to star the issues regarding Maven in
   the bug tracker.

  Here it is (the issue regarding 
  Maven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

  There are only 23 stars so far.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-14 Thread David Chandler
Hang tight, folks, we're on it. As has been noted in this thread, GWT
itself is not built with maven, so it's not a 100% automated process
to push to maven central. But we're working hard to get gwt-user-2.0.4
and gwt-dev-2.0.4 uploaded by Friday and to make deployment to maven
central a part of future releases.

David Chandler
GWT Developer Relations
Atlanta, GA USA

On Jul 14, 9:15 pm, David Vree david.h.v...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for that.

 On Jul 14, 6:37 pm, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:



  Nice. From 23 to 37 stars in less than a day.

  On Jul 14, 9:09 am, monkeyboy dilbert.elbo...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com
   wrote:

I would also wish that Google would takeMavenmore seriously. I can
only recommend all that agree to star the issues regardingMavenin
the bug tracker.

   Here it is (the issue 
   regardingMaven):http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4673

   There are only 23 stars so far.- Hide quoted text -

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-13 Thread Richard Vowles
We do host our own repository - thats not the point. The point is that
thousands of people use GWT and use dependency management, not having
it go into central as a matter of course is simply ridiculous! It is
absolutely, point blank unprofessional.

On Jul 13, 4:32 pm, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 If you need it that much, why don't you host your own repository, such as 
 Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-13 Thread Jaroslav Záruba
Or, maybe you're over-estimating importance of Maven for average
GWT-developer...?

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Richard Vowles richard.vow...@gmail.comwrote:

 We do host our own repository - thats not the point. The point is that
 thousands of people use GWT and use dependency management, not having
 it go into central as a matter of course is simply ridiculous! It is
 absolutely, point blank unprofessional.

 On Jul 13, 4:32 pm, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi
 
  If you need it that much, why don't you host your own repository, such as
 Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-13 Thread dougx
+1

On Jul 14, 10:10 am, Jaroslav Záruba jaroslav.zar...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Or, maybe you're over-estimating importance of Maven for average
 GWT-developer...?

 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Richard Vowles 
 richard.vow...@gmail.comwrote:



  We do host our own repository - thats not the point. The point is that
  thousands of people use GWT and use dependency management, not having
  it go into central as a matter of course is simply ridiculous! It is
  absolutely, point blank unprofessional.

  On Jul 13, 4:32 pm, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi

   If you need it that much, why don't you host your own repository, such as
  Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-13 Thread Paul Grenyer
This is free software, there is no obligation.

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We do host our own repository - thats not the point. The point is that
thousands of people use GWT and use dependency management, not having
it go into central as a matter of course is simply ridiculous! It is
absolutely, point blank unprofessional.

On Jul 13, 4:32 pm, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 If you need it that much, why don't you host your own repository, such as 
 Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-13 Thread Paul Grenyer
I'd say so.
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Or, maybe you're over-estimating importance of Maven for average
GWT-developer...?

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Richard Vowles richard.vow...@gmail.comwrote:

 We do host our own repository - thats not the point. The point is that
 thousands of people use GWT and use dependency management, not having
 it go into central as a matter of course is simply ridiculous! It is
 absolutely, point blank unprofessional.

 On Jul 13, 4:32 pm, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi
 
  If you need it that much, why don't you host your own repository, such as
 Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-13 Thread Kasper Hansen
I tend to agree with Richard, maybe not formulated to like he do, but
I understand his frustrations. What I don't understand is why you guys
need to respond in this manner, when the guy clearly is venting his
frustrations.

I would also wish that Google would take Maven more seriously. I can
only recommend all that agree to star the issues regarding Maven in
the bug tracker.

Cheers,

:-) Kasper

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 I'd say so.
 
 From: Jaroslav Záruba jaroslav.zar...@gmail.com
 Sender: google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 04:10:37 +0200
 To: google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com
 ReplyTo: google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: This is getting beyond a joke
 Or, maybe you're over-estimating importance of Maven for average
 GWT-developer...?

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 wrote:

 We do host our own repository - thats not the point. The point is that
 thousands of people use GWT and use dependency management, not having
 it go into central as a matter of course is simply ridiculous! It is
 absolutely, point blank unprofessional.

 On Jul 13, 4:32 pm, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
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  as Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-13 Thread Jaroslav Záruba
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Kasper Hansen kbhdk1...@gmail.com wrote:

 What I don't understand is why you guys
 need to respond in this manner, when the guy clearly is venting his
 frustrations.


Pardon? In what manner? Are you serious? :))
All the responses were perfectly correct, I'm not sure you can say the same
about the original message - look at the message subject for the starters.
I'm in no way related to GWT-team but I'm not sure the original poster has
chosen the most suitable tone when asking the GWT-team to aim their efforts
according to his needs.

I for one think there are important things to do when it comes to GWT, and I
don't miss Maven integration/support at all. Of course, everyone has their
own opinion.


 I would also wish that Google would take Maven more seriously. I can
 only recommend all that agree to star the issues regarding Maven in
 the bug tracker.


That's what I usually do, instead of being sarcastic when asking for
something. :P

Regards
  J. Záruba


 Cheers,

 :-) Kasper

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 wrote:
  I'd say so.
  
  From: Jaroslav Záruba jaroslav.zar...@gmail.com
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  Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 04:10:37 +0200
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  Subject: Re: This is getting beyond a joke
  Or, maybe you're over-estimating importance of Maven for average
  GWT-developer...?
 
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 richard.vow...@gmail.com
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  We do host our own repository - thats not the point. The point is that
  thousands of people use GWT and use dependency management, not having
  it go into central as a matter of course is simply ridiculous! It is
  absolutely, point blank unprofessional.
 
  On Jul 13, 4:32 pm, Paul Grenyer paul.gren...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi
  
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   as Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.
 
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This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-12 Thread Richard Vowles
GWT 2.0.4 has been out for at least two weeks now and it still isn't
in maven central. I understand that the Google guys don't use maven or
ivy, but for those who do (i.e. anyone serious about their builds
reliability and repeatability) the releases of GWT not being available
in central within a day or two of release is an incredible pain in the
backside and a very negative image for GWT in corporate. We are
suffering this Safari problem and now I'm going to have to manually
insert these artefacts into our repository.

This is *not* hard, Sonatype have been really good about making this
straight forward. Who is responsible for doing this and who has done
it in the past? Whoever you are, if you can't do it quickly I
volunteer to take over the responsibility for it and make sure it is
in within a couple of days. If I get to do it it, I'll also create a
new googlecode repository for the nightlies for people to version
range over if they wish.

Richard

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Re: This is getting beyond a joke

2010-07-12 Thread Paul Grenyer
Hi

If you need it that much, why don't you host your own repository, such as 
Nexus? That's what we do for Ivy.

Paul

-Original Message-
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:09:06 
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Subject: This is getting beyond a joke

GWT 2.0.4 has been out for at least two weeks now and it still isn't
in maven central. I understand that the Google guys don't use maven or
ivy, but for those who do (i.e. anyone serious about their builds
reliability and repeatability) the releases of GWT not being available
in central within a day or two of release is an incredible pain in the
backside and a very negative image for GWT in corporate. We are
suffering this Safari problem and now I'm going to have to manually
insert these artefacts into our repository.

This is *not* hard, Sonatype have been really good about making this
straight forward. Who is responsible for doing this and who has done
it in the past? Whoever you are, if you can't do it quickly I
volunteer to take over the responsibility for it and make sure it is
in within a couple of days. If I get to do it it, I'll also create a
new googlecode repository for the nightlies for people to version
range over if they wish.

Richard

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