Re: Trouble with fresh install of Eclipse Plugin 1.2rc2

2009-12-08 Thread anatoly techtonik
Just to clarify. I've downloaded wrong Java archive in the first
place, i.e. eclipse-java-galileo-SR1-win32.zip When I downloaded
eclipse-jee-galileo-SR1-win32.zip everything works as expected,
because Web Tools Platform is included.

The instructions at 
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/tools/eclipse.html#Getting_Eclipse
are a little bit misleading in this regard. They mention that WTP is
recommended. In fact WTP is required and is already included in Java
EE download.

On Dec 4, 6:32 pm, Chris Ramsdale cramsd...@google.com wrote:
 I just checked and a fresh install of 3.5 doesn't have the Eclipse Web
 Developer Tools installed. Also, if I install the RC2 GPE without having
 installed the Eclipse Web Developer Tools I end up in the same state that
 you described.

 On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:41 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.comwrote:



  I thought WST is already installed, because I have a bunch of plugins
  with WST prefix:
  org.eclipse.wst.common.core (1.1.201.v200806010600) WST Common Core
  Plug-in [Starting]
  org.eclipse.wst.common.environment (1.0.301.v200908101600)
  Enviornment Plug-in [Starting]
  org.eclipse.wst.common.frameworks.ui (1.1.301.v200908101600) WTP UI
  Plug-in [Starting]
  ...

  Now it is 100% clear I need to get Web Developer Tools. I should be
  more attentive for EE letters when reading GWT manuals

 http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/tools/eclipse.html#Getting...

  Thanks.

  On Dec 4, 2:10 am, Chris Ramsdale cramsd...@google.com wrote:
   Enaure that your version of Eclipse has Eclipse's Web Standard Tools
   (WST) installed before installing the plugin. WST can be installed by
   navigating to the Software Installation section, and selecting the the
   appropriate WST feature from the update site for your version of
   Eclipse. The update sites and feature names are provided below.

   3.5 (Galileo): Galileo - Web, XML, and Java EE Development - Eclipse
   Web Developer Tools
   3.4 (Ganymede): Ganymede Update Site - Web and Java EE Development -
   Web Developer Tools
   3.3 (Europa): Europa Discovery Site - Web and JEE Development - Web
   Standard Tools Project

   On Thursday, December 3, 2009, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com
  wrote:
Can't get Google Plugin 1.2rc2 work correctly in Eclipse 3.5.

Followed instructions fromhttp://
  code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/wiki/GWT_2_0_RC

Used Eclipse Galileo 3.5 for Java Developers (eclipse-java-galileo-SR1-
win32.zip). Created fresh workspace.

Downloaded Google plugin fromhttp://
  dl.google.com/eclipse/plugin/3.5/zips/gpe-e35-1.2rc2.zip

Unpacked .zip as described athttp://
  code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-from-zip.html

Restarted Eclipse.

Issues:

 * No New Web Application Project button in toolbar as described in
   http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/gettingstarted.html#NewEclipse
Though Deploy App Engine Project button is present.

 * Google or Web Toolkit is nowhere to be found under Windows -
Preferences

 * Show View dialog contains Google root with single Development
Mode leaf.

 * No references to Google or GWT in File - New menu or submenus.

Error Log:

!SESSION 2009-12-03 18:25:36.066
---
eclipse.buildId=M20090917-0800
java.version=1.6.0_16
java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
BootLoader constants: OS=win32, ARCH=x86, WS=win32, NL=en_US
Framework arguments:  -product org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product
Command-line arguments:  -os win32 -ws win32 -arch x86 -product
org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product

!ENTRY org.eclipse.ui 4 4 2009-12-03 18:28:06.076
!MESSAGE Invalid preference page path: App Engine

*** Current Install Configuration:
Install configuration:
 Last changed on Dec 3, 2009
 Location: C:\~env\IDE\eclipse-gwt
 Profile timestamp: 1259857539013

Installable Units in the profile:

Id: a.jre.javase, Version: 1.6.0
Id: com.google.appengine.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform.shared, Version:
1.1.101.v200911250703
Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.suite.e35.feature.feature.jar, Version:
1.1.101.v200911250703
Id: com.google.gwt.eclipse.oophm, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
Id: com.ibm.icu, Version: 4.0.1.v20090822


Bundles in the system:

Id: com.google.appengine.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
com.google.appengine.eclipse.core_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
com.google.gdt.eclipse.core_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,

Re: Trouble with fresh install of Eclipse Plugin 1.2rc2

2009-12-04 Thread anatoly techtonik
I thought WST is already installed, because I have a bunch of plugins
with WST prefix:
org.eclipse.wst.common.core (1.1.201.v200806010600) WST Common Core
Plug-in [Starting]
org.eclipse.wst.common.environment (1.0.301.v200908101600)
Enviornment Plug-in [Starting]
org.eclipse.wst.common.frameworks.ui (1.1.301.v200908101600) WTP UI
Plug-in [Starting]
...

Now it is 100% clear I need to get Web Developer Tools. I should be
more attentive for EE letters when reading GWT manuals
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/tools/eclipse.html#Getting_Eclipse

Thanks.

On Dec 4, 2:10 am, Chris Ramsdale cramsd...@google.com wrote:
 Enaure that your version of Eclipse has Eclipse's Web Standard Tools
 (WST) installed before installing the plugin. WST can be installed by
 navigating to the Software Installation section, and selecting the the
 appropriate WST feature from the update site for your version of
 Eclipse. The update sites and feature names are provided below.

 3.5 (Galileo): Galileo - Web, XML, and Java EE Development - Eclipse
 Web Developer Tools
 3.4 (Ganymede): Ganymede Update Site - Web and Java EE Development -
 Web Developer Tools
 3.3 (Europa): Europa Discovery Site - Web and JEE Development - Web
 Standard Tools Project



 On Thursday, December 3, 2009, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote:
  Can't get Google Plugin 1.2rc2 work correctly in Eclipse 3.5.

  Followed instructions 
  fromhttp://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/wiki/GWT_2_0_RC

  Used Eclipse Galileo 3.5 for Java Developers (eclipse-java-galileo-SR1-
  win32.zip). Created fresh workspace.

  Downloaded Google plugin 
  fromhttp://dl.google.com/eclipse/plugin/3.5/zips/gpe-e35-1.2rc2.zip

  Unpacked .zip as described 
  athttp://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-from-zip.html

  Restarted Eclipse.

  Issues:

   * No New Web Application Project button in toolbar as described in
 http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/gettingstarted.html#NewEclipse
  Though Deploy App Engine Project button is present.

   * Google or Web Toolkit is nowhere to be found under Windows -
  Preferences

   * Show View dialog contains Google root with single Development
  Mode leaf.

   * No references to Google or GWT in File - New menu or submenus.

  Error Log:

  !SESSION 2009-12-03 18:25:36.066
  ---
  eclipse.buildId=M20090917-0800
  java.version=1.6.0_16
  java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
  BootLoader constants: OS=win32, ARCH=x86, WS=win32, NL=en_US
  Framework arguments:  -product org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product
  Command-line arguments:  -os win32 -ws win32 -arch x86 -product
  org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product

  !ENTRY org.eclipse.ui 4 4 2009-12-03 18:28:06.076
  !MESSAGE Invalid preference page path: App Engine

  *** Current Install Configuration:
  Install configuration:
   Last changed on Dec 3, 2009
   Location: C:\~env\IDE\eclipse-gwt
   Profile timestamp: 1259857539013

  Installable Units in the profile:

  Id: a.jre.javase, Version: 1.6.0
  Id: com.google.appengine.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
  Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
  Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
  Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform.shared, Version:
  1.1.101.v200911250703
  Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.suite.e35.feature.feature.jar, Version:
  1.1.101.v200911250703
  Id: com.google.gwt.eclipse.oophm, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
  Id: com.ibm.icu, Version: 4.0.1.v20090822
  

  Bundles in the system:

  Id: com.google.appengine.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
  Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
  com.google.appengine.eclipse.core_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
  Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
  Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
  com.google.gdt.eclipse.core_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
  Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
  Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
  com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
  Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform.shared, Version:
  1.1.101.v200911250703, Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/
  plugins/
  com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform.shared_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
  Id: com.google.gwt.eclipse.oophm, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
  Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
  com.google.gwt.eclipse.oophm_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
  Id: com.ibm.icu, Version: 4.0.1.v20090822, Location:
  reference:file:plugins/com.ibm.icu_4.0.1.v20090822.jar
  

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Re: Trouble with fresh install of Eclipse Plugin 1.2rc2

2009-12-04 Thread Chris Ramsdale
I just checked and a fresh install of 3.5 doesn't have the Eclipse Web
Developer Tools installed. Also, if I install the RC2 GPE without having
installed the Eclipse Web Developer Tools I end up in the same state that
you described.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:41 AM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.comwrote:

 I thought WST is already installed, because I have a bunch of plugins
 with WST prefix:
 org.eclipse.wst.common.core (1.1.201.v200806010600) WST Common Core
 Plug-in [Starting]
 org.eclipse.wst.common.environment (1.0.301.v200908101600)
 Enviornment Plug-in [Starting]
 org.eclipse.wst.common.frameworks.ui (1.1.301.v200908101600) WTP UI
 Plug-in [Starting]
 ...

 Now it is 100% clear I need to get Web Developer Tools. I should be
 more attentive for EE letters when reading GWT manuals

 http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/tools/eclipse.html#Getting_Eclipse

 Thanks.

 On Dec 4, 2:10 am, Chris Ramsdale cramsd...@google.com wrote:
  Enaure that your version of Eclipse has Eclipse's Web Standard Tools
  (WST) installed before installing the plugin. WST can be installed by
  navigating to the Software Installation section, and selecting the the
  appropriate WST feature from the update site for your version of
  Eclipse. The update sites and feature names are provided below.
 
  3.5 (Galileo): Galileo - Web, XML, and Java EE Development - Eclipse
  Web Developer Tools
  3.4 (Ganymede): Ganymede Update Site - Web and Java EE Development -
  Web Developer Tools
  3.3 (Europa): Europa Discovery Site - Web and JEE Development - Web
  Standard Tools Project
 
 
 
  On Thursday, December 3, 2009, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Can't get Google Plugin 1.2rc2 work correctly in Eclipse 3.5.
 
   Followed instructions fromhttp://
 code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/wiki/GWT_2_0_RC
 
   Used Eclipse Galileo 3.5 for Java Developers (eclipse-java-galileo-SR1-
   win32.zip). Created fresh workspace.
 
   Downloaded Google plugin fromhttp://
 dl.google.com/eclipse/plugin/3.5/zips/gpe-e35-1.2rc2.zip
 
   Unpacked .zip as described athttp://
 code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-from-zip.html
 
   Restarted Eclipse.
 
   Issues:
 
* No New Web Application Project button in toolbar as described in
  http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/gettingstarted.html#NewEclipse
   Though Deploy App Engine Project button is present.
 
* Google or Web Toolkit is nowhere to be found under Windows -
   Preferences
 
* Show View dialog contains Google root with single Development
   Mode leaf.
 
* No references to Google or GWT in File - New menu or submenus.
 
   Error Log:
 
   !SESSION 2009-12-03 18:25:36.066
   ---
   eclipse.buildId=M20090917-0800
   java.version=1.6.0_16
   java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
   BootLoader constants: OS=win32, ARCH=x86, WS=win32, NL=en_US
   Framework arguments:  -product org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product
   Command-line arguments:  -os win32 -ws win32 -arch x86 -product
   org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product
 
   !ENTRY org.eclipse.ui 4 4 2009-12-03 18:28:06.076
   !MESSAGE Invalid preference page path: App Engine
 
   *** Current Install Configuration:
   Install configuration:
Last changed on Dec 3, 2009
Location: C:\~env\IDE\eclipse-gwt
Profile timestamp: 1259857539013
 
   Installable Units in the profile:
 
   Id: a.jre.javase, Version: 1.6.0
   Id: com.google.appengine.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
   Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
   Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
   Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform.shared, Version:
   1.1.101.v200911250703
   Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.suite.e35.feature.feature.jar, Version:
   1.1.101.v200911250703
   Id: com.google.gwt.eclipse.oophm, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
   Id: com.ibm.icu, Version: 4.0.1.v20090822
   
 
   Bundles in the system:
 
   Id: com.google.appengine.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
   Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
   com.google.appengine.eclipse.core_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
   Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
   Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
   com.google.gdt.eclipse.core_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
   Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
   Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
   com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
   Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform.shared, Version:
   1.1.101.v200911250703, Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/
   plugins/
   com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform.shared_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
   Id: com.google.gwt.eclipse.oophm, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
   Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
   com.google.gwt.eclipse.oophm_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
   Id: com.ibm.icu, Version: 4.0.1.v20090822, Location:
   

Trouble with fresh install of Eclipse Plugin 1.2rc2

2009-12-03 Thread anatoly techtonik
Can't get Google Plugin 1.2rc2 work correctly in Eclipse 3.5.

Followed instructions from 
http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/wiki/GWT_2_0_RC

Used Eclipse Galileo 3.5 for Java Developers (eclipse-java-galileo-SR1-
win32.zip). Created fresh workspace.

Downloaded Google plugin from 
http://dl.google.com/eclipse/plugin/3.5/zips/gpe-e35-1.2rc2.zip

Unpacked .zip as described at 
http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-from-zip.html

Restarted Eclipse.

Issues:

 * No New Web Application Project button in toolbar as described in
http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/gettingstarted.html#NewEclipse
Though Deploy App Engine Project button is present.

 * Google or Web Toolkit is nowhere to be found under Windows -
Preferences

 * Show View dialog contains Google root with single Development
Mode leaf.

 * No references to Google or GWT in File - New menu or submenus.


Error Log:

!SESSION 2009-12-03 18:25:36.066
---
eclipse.buildId=M20090917-0800
java.version=1.6.0_16
java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
BootLoader constants: OS=win32, ARCH=x86, WS=win32, NL=en_US
Framework arguments:  -product org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product
Command-line arguments:  -os win32 -ws win32 -arch x86 -product
org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product

!ENTRY org.eclipse.ui 4 4 2009-12-03 18:28:06.076
!MESSAGE Invalid preference page path: App Engine


*** Current Install Configuration:
Install configuration:
 Last changed on Dec 3, 2009
 Location: C:\~env\IDE\eclipse-gwt
 Profile timestamp: 1259857539013

Installable Units in the profile:

Id: a.jre.javase, Version: 1.6.0
Id: com.google.appengine.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform.shared, Version:
1.1.101.v200911250703
Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.suite.e35.feature.feature.jar, Version:
1.1.101.v200911250703
Id: com.google.gwt.eclipse.oophm, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
Id: com.ibm.icu, Version: 4.0.1.v20090822


Bundles in the system:

Id: com.google.appengine.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
com.google.appengine.eclipse.core_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
com.google.gdt.eclipse.core_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform.shared, Version:
1.1.101.v200911250703, Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/
plugins/
com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform.shared_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
Id: com.google.gwt.eclipse.oophm, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
com.google.gwt.eclipse.oophm_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
Id: com.ibm.icu, Version: 4.0.1.v20090822, Location:
reference:file:plugins/com.ibm.icu_4.0.1.v20090822.jar


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Re: Trouble with fresh install of Eclipse Plugin 1.2rc2

2009-12-03 Thread Chris Ramsdale
Enaure that your version of Eclipse has Eclipse's Web Standard Tools
(WST) installed before installing the plugin. WST can be installed by
navigating to the Software Installation section, and selecting the the
appropriate WST feature from the update site for your version of
Eclipse. The update sites and feature names are provided below.

3.5 (Galileo): Galileo - Web, XML, and Java EE Development - Eclipse
Web Developer Tools
3.4 (Ganymede): Ganymede Update Site - Web and Java EE Development -
Web Developer Tools
3.3 (Europa): Europa Discovery Site - Web and JEE Development - Web
Standard Tools Project

On Thursday, December 3, 2009, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can't get Google Plugin 1.2rc2 work correctly in Eclipse 3.5.

 Followed instructions from 
 http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/wiki/GWT_2_0_RC

 Used Eclipse Galileo 3.5 for Java Developers (eclipse-java-galileo-SR1-
 win32.zip). Created fresh workspace.

 Downloaded Google plugin from 
 http://dl.google.com/eclipse/plugin/3.5/zips/gpe-e35-1.2rc2.zip

 Unpacked .zip as described at 
 http://code.google.com/eclipse/docs/install-from-zip.html

 Restarted Eclipse.

 Issues:

  * No New Web Application Project button in toolbar as described in
 http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/gettingstarted.html#NewEclipse
 Though Deploy App Engine Project button is present.

  * Google or Web Toolkit is nowhere to be found under Windows -
 Preferences

  * Show View dialog contains Google root with single Development
 Mode leaf.

  * No references to Google or GWT in File - New menu or submenus.


 Error Log:

 !SESSION 2009-12-03 18:25:36.066
 ---
 eclipse.buildId=M20090917-0800
 java.version=1.6.0_16
 java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
 BootLoader constants: OS=win32, ARCH=x86, WS=win32, NL=en_US
 Framework arguments:  -product org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product
 Command-line arguments:  -os win32 -ws win32 -arch x86 -product
 org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product

 !ENTRY org.eclipse.ui 4 4 2009-12-03 18:28:06.076
 !MESSAGE Invalid preference page path: App Engine


 *** Current Install Configuration:
 Install configuration:
  Last changed on Dec 3, 2009
  Location: C:\~env\IDE\eclipse-gwt
  Profile timestamp: 1259857539013

 Installable Units in the profile:

 Id: a.jre.javase, Version: 1.6.0
 Id: com.google.appengine.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
 Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
 Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
 Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform.shared, Version:
 1.1.101.v200911250703
 Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.suite.e35.feature.feature.jar, Version:
 1.1.101.v200911250703
 Id: com.google.gwt.eclipse.oophm, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703
 Id: com.ibm.icu, Version: 4.0.1.v20090822
 

 Bundles in the system:

 Id: com.google.appengine.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
 Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
 com.google.appengine.eclipse.core_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
 Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.core, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
 Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
 com.google.gdt.eclipse.core_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
 Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
 Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
 com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
 Id: com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform.shared, Version:
 1.1.101.v200911250703, Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/
 plugins/
 com.google.gdt.eclipse.platform.shared_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
 Id: com.google.gwt.eclipse.oophm, Version: 1.1.101.v200911250703,
 Location: reference:file:dropins/eclipse/plugins/
 com.google.gwt.eclipse.oophm_1.1.101.v200911250703.jar
 Id: com.ibm.icu, Version: 4.0.1.v20090822, Location:
 reference:file:plugins/com.ibm.icu_4.0.1.v20090822.jar
 

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