Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: Elemental2 - What's the big secret?

['Ray Cromwell' via GWT Contributors]

With these kinds of purely code generated APIs, I'd say trying to consume
it during development is not very useful. Every small change can lead to a
radical change in hundreds of interfaces output, so your app would likely
to be broken frequently, and with big migration costs each time. It makes
sense to wait until it stabilized a lot.


On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 5:20 AM Julien Dramaix 
wrote:

> Elemental is not secret, it is not ready yet...
>
> Stay tuned, in few days we should push an experimental version of
> elemental using JsInterop new specification.
>
> - Julien
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:13 PM Leif Åstrand  wrote:
>
>> Elemental 2 is a completely new project that is being developed
>> internally by Google, but their intention is to publish it as open source
>> once the maturity of the code matches their internal threshold.
>>
>> On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 10:28:39 AM UTC+3, Alex White wrote:
>>>
>>> Just wondering where the source code is and why it has not been
>>> published before a major release for an allegedly open source project. Is
>>> the big secret that it won't be published?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: Future direction for common JS api's

['Ray Cromwell' via GWT Contributors]

Elemental2 uses typescript as it's intermediate representation, so you can
do Closure Externs -> TypeScript -> JsInterop or WebIDL -> TypeScript ->
JsInterop or (insert favorite syntax here) -> TypeScript -> JsInterop.

BTW, Note that JSweet really punts on most JLS semantics, so it's
problematic for compiling shared or existing Java code bases.


On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:22 AM Stephen Haberman <
stephen.haber...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting; I had not seen JSweet before.
>
> The javac -> TypeScript -> JS approach is surprisingly parallel (albeit
> with different selections) to J2CL's ecj -> closure -> JS.
>
> - Stephen
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:50 AM Jens  wrote:
>
>> Given that Elemental 2 is developed behind closed doors, I would guess it
>> can take TypeScript definition files and/or some IDL input to generate JS
>> APIs for GWT / J2CL. That should cover nearly all Web APIs.
>> IMHO TypeScript definition files would be preferred because there are tons
>> of them on https://github.com/DefinitelyTyped/DefinitelyTyped for all
>> kinds of JS libraries and Web APIs. It also has a definition for the Fetch
>> API:
>> https://github.com/DefinitelyTyped/DefinitelyTyped/tree/master/whatwg-fetch
>>
>>
>> It would be a shame if Elemental 2 would not understand them to generate
>> APIs. These files are basically what JSweet uses to generate their Candies (
>> http://www.jsweet.org/candies-releases/). But even if Elemental 2 only
>> takes IDL input or html5index.org as input it should cover all standard
>> web APIs.
>>
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Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: Elemental2 - What's the big secret?

[Julien Dramaix]

Elemental is not secret, it is not ready yet...

Stay tuned, in few days we should push an experimental version of elemental
using JsInterop new specification.

- Julien

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:13 PM Leif Åstrand  wrote:

> Elemental 2 is a completely new project that is being developed internally
> by Google, but their intention is to publish it as open source once the
> maturity of the code matches their internal threshold.
>
> On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 10:28:39 AM UTC+3, Alex White wrote:
>>
>> Just wondering where the source code is and why it has not been published
>> before a major release for an allegedly open source project. Is the big
>> secret that it won't be published?
>>
>>
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[gwt-contrib] Re: Elemental2 - What's the big secret?

[Leif Åstrand]

Elemental 2 is a completely new project that is being developed internally 
by Google, but their intention is to publish it as open source once the 
maturity of the code matches their internal threshold.
 
On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 10:28:39 AM UTC+3, Alex White wrote:
>
> Just wondering where the source code is and why it has not been published 
> before a major release for an allegedly open source project. Is the big 
> secret that it won't be published?
>
>
>

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[gwt-contrib] Elemental2 - What's the big secret?

[Alex White]

Just wondering where the source code is and why it has not been published 
before a major release for an allegedly open source project. Is the big 
secret that it won't be published?


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