Re: [gpfsug-discuss] [External] 5.1.2.2 changes

2022-01-17 Thread Simon Thompson
My guess is … they decided it was unsafe. I’m sure I’ve seen a few release 
notes that have referred to mmfsck and data corruption.

e.g.:
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ibm-spectrum-scale-alert-all-supported-versions-may-be-affected-issue-online-mmfsck-which-may-result-file-system-corruption

So maybe it was classified as too dangerous to leave in the field?

Simon

From: gpfsug-discuss-boun...@spectrumscale.org 
 on behalf of Jonathan Buzzard 

Date: Friday, 14 January 2022 at 14:38
To: gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org 
Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] [External] 5.1.2.2 changes
On 13/01/2022 17:39, mark.berg...@uphs.upenn.edu wrote:
[SNIP]
>
> The change that I noticed most was:
>
>  Repair functionality of mmfsck command in online mode is deprecated
>  The repair functionality of mmfsck command in online mode is no 
> longer available. The report-only operation still works in the online mode.
>
> While I know that mmfsck is rarely needed and has gotten much faster, 
> deprecating the ability to do any online repairs seems
> like a significant regression.
>

I would concur with that sentiment, and given it is a significant
regression I would suggest that it IBM should give an explanation as to
why functionality has been removed.

Been able to do online repairs on large file systems is when you need it
a complete life saver. It could be the difference between several days
of outage vs. end users not realizing there was even a problem.


JAB.

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Re: [gpfsug-discuss] [External] 5.1.2.2 changes

2022-01-14 Thread Jonathan Buzzard

On 13/01/2022 17:39, mark.berg...@uphs.upenn.edu wrote:
[SNIP]


The change that I noticed most was:

 Repair functionality of mmfsck command in online mode is deprecated
 The repair functionality of mmfsck command in online mode is no 
longer available. The report-only operation still works in the online mode.

While I know that mmfsck is rarely needed and has gotten much faster, 
deprecating the ability to do any online repairs seems
like a significant regression.



I would concur with that sentiment, and given it is a significant 
regression I would suggest that it IBM should give an explanation as to 
why functionality has been removed.


Been able to do online repairs on large file systems is when you need it 
a complete life saver. It could be the difference between several days 
of outage vs. end users not realizing there was even a problem.



JAB.

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HPC System Administrator, ARCHIE-WeSt.
University of Strathclyde, John Anderson Building, Glasgow. G4 0NG
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Re: [gpfsug-discuss] [External] 5.1.2.2 changes

2022-01-13 Thread mark . bergman
In the message dated: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 18:26:12 +0100,
The pithy ruminations from "Hannappel, Juergen" on 
[[External] [gpfsug-discuss] 5.1.2.2 changes] were:
=> Hi,
=> just got notified that 5.1.2.2 is out.
=> What are the changes to 5.1.2.1?
=> https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/spectrum-scale/5.1.2?topic=summary-changes
=> does not specify that

The change that I noticed most was:

Repair functionality of mmfsck command in online mode is deprecated
The repair functionality of mmfsck command in online mode is no 
longer available. The report-only operation still works in the online mode. 

While I know that mmfsck is rarely needed and has gotten much faster, 
deprecating the ability to do any online repairs seems
like a significant regression.

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