Re: [GRASS-dev] ASF - OGC - OSGeo code sprint - Feb 17-19, 2021

[Luca Delucchi]

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 at 16:28, Anna Petrášová  wrote:
>
> Hi Vero,
>
Hi all,

> we registered for this, we probably won't participate 100% of the time, but 
> hope to see other GRASS devs there.
>

I also registered myself!

> Anna & Vaclav
>

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Luca

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Re: [GRASS-dev] [GRASS-PSC] Min. req. of programming language standard support, GRASS GIS 8

[Michael Barton]

Ahh.
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Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological Sciences
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Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change
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On Feb 11, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Markus Neteler 
mailto:nete...@osgeo.org>> wrote:

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:14 PM Michael Barton 
mailto:michael.bar...@asu.edu>> wrote:

For some reason, I'm not seeing the new RFC at 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/RFC__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!JZ1rTME_89so-xmZFVkY1n5-WrvplN_CAYpLry8MZW6jY05_Pb9wfyhOpPGcCMZj97K71oU$

It still needs to be written :-)

Markus

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Re: [GRASS-dev] Should we use GitHub Discussions?

[Veronica Andreo]

Hello everybody,

I wonder if this discussion should also be moved to a RFC [1]. What do you
think?
If yes, is there anyone willing to draft it detailing background,
advantages,
disadvantages and alternatives?

It might be interesting to know how many OSGeo projects use it and how it
works for them. It was mentioned here that QGIS PSC is considering to close
it,
but what about others?

my 2 cents

Cheers,
Vero

[1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/RFC

El mié, 10 feb 2021 a las 15:28, Stefan Blumentrath (<
stefan.blumentr...@nina.no>) escribió:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> Personally, I tried being active on StackExchange. However, even though I
> do like to support colleagues using GRASS and the project in general, the
> GIS SE system somehow put me off. I just did not like the attitude there
> and would myself not even think about asking questions there...
>
>
>
> That said, GitHub discussions can be different. But I still would very
> much prefer the mentioned option to “modernize” the ML system.
>
>
>
> I also think that if people could register at OSGeo (and MLs) with other
> accounts (Github, Google, …) that could lower entrance barriers. But that
> is a different, and probably more complicated (?) issue…
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
> *From:* grass-dev  *On Behalf Of *Vaclav
> Petras
> *Sent:* onsdag 10. februar 2021 04:10
> *To:* Markus Neteler 
> *Cc:* GRASS developers list 
> *Subject:* Re: [GRASS-dev] Should we use GitHub Discussions?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 3:59 PM Markus Neteler  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 9:50 PM Vaclav Petras  wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 4:01 AM Markus Neteler  wrote:
> >>
> > If we had a presence on StackExchange like QGIS has, we wouldn't be
> having a discussion about GitHub Discussions in the first place.
>
> Try this:
>
> https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/grass
> 
> --> 2,027 questions
>
>
>
> I wish this would indicate a healthy community and I wish we would have
> one there. However, with a small sample from questions with recent
> activity, I see only a couple of users answering (2 or so; BTW thanks! you
> know who you are) and from the 2027 questions tagged grass, there are "475
> questions with no upvoted or accepted answers" [1]. This does not sound
> like what is in the original Nyall's email against QGIS using GitHub
> Discussions which says "there's LOTS of informed users answering all the
> QGIS questions on gis.stackexchange." [2]. Perhaps even more telling is
> that no one except myself [3] mentioned GIS StackExchange in this
> discussion up until now.
>
>
>
> [1] https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/grass?tab=Unanswered
> 
>
> [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-psc/2021-February/009244.html
> 
>
> [3] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-dev/2021-January/094867.html
> 
>
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Re: [GRASS-dev] [GRASS-PSC] Min. req. of programming language standard support, GRASS GIS 8

[Markus Neteler]

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:14 PM Michael Barton  wrote:
>
> For some reason, I'm not seeing the new RFC at 
> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/RFC

It still needs to be written :-)

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Re: [GRASS-dev] [GRASS-PSC] Min. req. of programming language standard support, GRASS GIS 8

[Michael Barton]

For some reason, I'm not seeing the new RFC at 
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/RFC

Michael
_
C. Michael Barton
Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological Sciences
Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems
Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ  85287-2402
USA

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http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton

On Feb 11, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Veronica Andreo 
mailto:veroand...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I was just about to pop up in this discussion with the RFC suggestion :)

Thanks a lot Nicklas and Moritz!

El jue, 11 feb 2021 a las 14:34, Moritz Lennert 
(mailto:mlenn...@club.worldonline.be>>) escribió:


Am 11. Februar 2021 13:29:10 MEZ schrieb Nicklas Larsson 
mailto:n_lars...@yahoo.com>>:
> Moritz,
>
>I'd be honoured!
>I will put it on GRASS Wiki [1] if you don't have another suggestion and 
>notify here when done.


Great, thanks a lot !

Moritz

>
>[1] 
>https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/RFC
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 11 February 2021, 12:54:30 CET, Moritz Lennert 
> mailto:mlenn...@club.worldonline.be>> wrote:
>
> On 10/02/21 13:16, Nicklas Larsson wrote:
>> It would be most favourable for all contributors and the project if the
>> community could come to an agreement on this topic. I see no reason to
>> postpone a decision on this much longer.
>>
>> The final word on this need to be that of the PSC's. Whether through
>> simple vote or a RFC. However, a sounding of the opinion of the
>> dev-community on this matter is of equal importance and can be of help
>> for the PSC.
>
>Thanks a lot, Nicklas, for this very comprehensive summary !
>
>A suggestion made at the first meeting of the new PSC was to use this
>discussion as a use case for a more extensive usage of RFC's to put
>important decisions into more permanent documents than mailing list
>archives and to provoke a formal decision as you suggest. Would you be
>willing to write a first draft of such an RFC ?
>
>Moritz
>
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Re: [GRASS-dev] Min. req. of programming language standard support, GRASS GIS 8

[Markus Neteler]

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nicklas Larsson via grass-dev
 wrote:
>
> Moritz,
>
> I'd be honoured!
> I will put it on GRASS Wiki [1] if you don't have another suggestion and 
> notify here when done.

Excellent!

BTW: a similar discussion just about to start:

"What are going to be the set of compilers that are supported and how old?"
https://github.com/OSGeo/shapelib/issues/23

That issue contains links to related documents (GDAL etc., maybe of
interest here, too).

Best,
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Re: [GRASS-dev] Min. req. of programming language standard support, GRASS GIS 8

[Veronica Andreo]

I was just about to pop up in this discussion with the RFC suggestion :)

Thanks a lot Nicklas and Moritz!

El jue, 11 feb 2021 a las 14:34, Moritz Lennert (<
mlenn...@club.worldonline.be>) escribió:

>
>
> Am 11. Februar 2021 13:29:10 MEZ schrieb Nicklas Larsson <
> n_lars...@yahoo.com>:
> > Moritz,
> >
> >I'd be honoured!
> >I will put it on GRASS Wiki [1] if you don't have another suggestion and
> notify here when done.
>
>
> Great, thanks a lot !
>
> Moritz
>
> >
> >[1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/RFC
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, 11 February 2021, 12:54:30 CET, Moritz Lennert <
> mlenn...@club.worldonline.be> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/02/21 13:16, Nicklas Larsson wrote:
> >> It would be most favourable for all contributors and the project if the
> >> community could come to an agreement on this topic. I see no reason to
> >> postpone a decision on this much longer.
> >>
> >> The final word on this need to be that of the PSC's. Whether through
> >> simple vote or a RFC. However, a sounding of the opinion of the
> >> dev-community on this matter is of equal importance and can be of help
> >> for the PSC.
> >
> >Thanks a lot, Nicklas, for this very comprehensive summary !
> >
> >A suggestion made at the first meeting of the new PSC was to use this
> >discussion as a use case for a more extensive usage of RFC's to put
> >important decisions into more permanent documents than mailing list
> >archives and to provoke a formal decision as you suggest. Would you be
> >willing to write a first draft of such an RFC ?
> >
> >Moritz
> >
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[GRASS-dev] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo @ GSoC 2021] Call for Projects to Prepare Project Ideas Page for Google Summer of Code 2021

[Anna Petrášová]

For potential GSoC (co)mentors, please fill out the form below:
https://forms.gle/9Na1vzGX3ESxqgpj9

-- Forwarded message -
From: Rajat Shinde 
Date: Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo @ GSoC 2021] Call for Projects to
Prepare Project Ideas Page for Google Summer of Code 2021
To: Anna Petrášová 
Cc: gsoc-adminosgeo.org , GRASS-dev <
grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org>


Dear Anna,

Thanks for your email and also for updating the ideas page, we really
appreciate it. :)
We will surely add the GRASS GIS ideas page to the OSGeo GSoC 2021 Ideas
page soon.

Meanwhile, it's a humble request for all GRASS Mentors to fill the GSoC
2021 mentor's contact information form (https://forms.gle/9Na1vzGX3ESxqgpj9)
so that we can have the necessary information.

Thanks!
Kind regards,
OSGeo GSoC Admins

On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 9:14 AM Anna Petrášová 
wrote:

> Dear OSGeo GSoC Admin team,
>
> here is the project ideas page for GRASS GIS:
>
> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/GSoC/2021
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 10:09 AM Rajat Shinde 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> It is the time of the year to start preparing for the OSGeo's
>> participation with the Google Summer of Code 2021 [1] and we need your help
>> for the same. With a 100% success for all the GSoC 2020 student projects
>> [2], we are highly excited and motivated to invite the OSGeo projects
>> (Projects, Incubation projects, Guest Projects) to begin compiling the
>> project ideas for GSoC 2021.
>>
>> In order to participate in proposing ideas as a project under OSGeo
>> umbrella organisation, you just need to send us (admins:  > osgeo dot org>) the URL for your project's GSoC ideas Wiki page. If you are
>> participating for the first time, then you may visit [3] [4] for reference.
>>
>> Please remember that every idea should indicate:
>>
>> • A title
>> • A description
>> • 2 Mentors' Details
>> • A test for the students to submit to your evaluation. The test aims
>> at evaluating if the student is capable for the project, so please design
>> the test having in mind the basic skills required to complete the project.
>>
>> The organisation application period starts Jan 30, 2021 and will be open
>> till Feb 20, 2021. So, we expect all the URLs by Feb 10, 2021. Here is the
>> complete GSoC 2021 timeline [5].
>>
>> *Note:* GSoC 2021 comes with some new changes in the program. We
>> sincerely request to go through the announcement mentioning new changes [6].
>>
>> Thanks and please forward the information to your respective projects
>> mailing list!
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Rahul and Rajat
>> (On behalf of the OSGeo GSoC Admins Team)
>>
>> [1] https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/
>> [2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2020
>> [3] https://github.com/pgRouting/pgrouting/wiki/GSoC-Ideas:-2021
>> [4] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2020_Ideas
>> [5] https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline
>> [6]
>> https://opensource.googleblog.com/2020/10/google-summer-of-code-2021-is-bringing.html
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Re: [GRASS-dev] ASF - OGC - OSGeo code sprint - Feb 17-19, 2021

[Anna Petrášová]

Hi Vero,

we registered for this, we probably won't participate 100% of the time, but
hope to see other GRASS devs there.

Anna & Vaclav

On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:16 AM Veronica Andreo 
wrote:

> Hello everyone :)
>
> Shall we join the 2021 Joint ASF – OGC – OSGeo Code Sprint [0]?
>
> AFAIU, the focus is on OGC standards implementation. Is anyone in the
> GRASS community currently working on that and wishes to participate? They
> have created a repo with further details [1] in case you are interested.
>
> Best,
> Vero
>
> [0] https://portal.ogc.org/public_ogc/register/20210217_code_sprint.php
> [1] https://github.com/opengeospatial/joint-ogc-osgeo-asf-sprint-2021
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[GRASS-dev] ASF - OGC - OSGeo code sprint - Feb 17-19, 2021

[Veronica Andreo]

Hello everyone :)

Shall we join the 2021 Joint ASF – OGC – OSGeo Code Sprint [0]?

AFAIU, the focus is on OGC standards implementation. Is anyone in the GRASS
community currently working on that and wishes to participate? They have
created a repo with further details [1] in case you are interested.

Best,
Vero

[0] https://portal.ogc.org/public_ogc/register/20210217_code_sprint.php
[1] https://github.com/opengeospatial/joint-ogc-osgeo-asf-sprint-2021
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Re: [GRASS-dev] Min. req. of programming language standard support, GRASS GIS 8

[Moritz Lennert]

Am 11. Februar 2021 13:29:10 MEZ schrieb Nicklas Larsson :
> Moritz,
>
>I'd be honoured!
>I will put it on GRASS Wiki [1] if you don't have another suggestion and 
>notify here when done.


Great, thanks a lot !

Moritz

>
>[1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/RFC
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 11 February 2021, 12:54:30 CET, Moritz Lennert 
>  wrote:  
> 
> On 10/02/21 13:16, Nicklas Larsson wrote:
>> It would be most favourable for all contributors and the project if the 
>> community could come to an agreement on this topic. I see no reason to 
>> postpone a decision on this much longer.
>> 
>> The final word on this need to be that of the PSC's. Whether through 
>> simple vote or a RFC. However, a sounding of the opinion of the 
>> dev-community on this matter is of equal importance and can be of help 
>> for the PSC.
>
>Thanks a lot, Nicklas, for this very comprehensive summary !
>
>A suggestion made at the first meeting of the new PSC was to use this 
>discussion as a use case for a more extensive usage of RFC's to put 
>important decisions into more permanent documents than mailing list 
>archives and to provoke a formal decision as you suggest. Would you be 
>willing to write a first draft of such an RFC ?
>
>Moritz
>  
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Re: [GRASS-dev] Min. req. of programming language standard support, GRASS GIS 8

[Nicklas Larsson via grass-dev]

 Moritz,

I'd be honoured!
I will put it on GRASS Wiki [1] if you don't have another suggestion and notify 
here when done.

Best,
Nicklas


[1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/RFC



 On Thursday, 11 February 2021, 12:54:30 CET, Moritz Lennert 
 wrote:  
 
 On 10/02/21 13:16, Nicklas Larsson wrote:
> It would be most favourable for all contributors and the project if the 
> community could come to an agreement on this topic. I see no reason to 
> postpone a decision on this much longer.
> 
> The final word on this need to be that of the PSC's. Whether through 
> simple vote or a RFC. However, a sounding of the opinion of the 
> dev-community on this matter is of equal importance and can be of help 
> for the PSC.

Thanks a lot, Nicklas, for this very comprehensive summary !

A suggestion made at the first meeting of the new PSC was to use this 
discussion as a use case for a more extensive usage of RFC's to put 
important decisions into more permanent documents than mailing list 
archives and to provoke a formal decision as you suggest. Would you be 
willing to write a first draft of such an RFC ?

Moritz
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Re: [GRASS-dev] Min. req. of programming language standard support, GRASS GIS 8

[Moritz Lennert]

On 10/02/21 13:16, Nicklas Larsson wrote:
It would be most favourable for all contributors and the project if the 
community could come to an agreement on this topic. I see no reason to 
postpone a decision on this much longer.


The final word on this need to be that of the PSC's. Whether through 
simple vote or a RFC. However, a sounding of the opinion of the 
dev-community on this matter is of equal importance and can be of help 
for the PSC.


Thanks a lot, Nicklas, for this very comprehensive summary !

A suggestion made at the first meeting of the new PSC was to use this 
discussion as a use case for a more extensive usage of RFC's to put 
important decisions into more permanent documents than mailing list 
archives and to provoke a formal decision as you suggest. Would you be 
willing to write a first draft of such an RFC ?


Moritz
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