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Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website

2021-01-16 Thread Michael Barton

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On Jan 16, 2021, at 10:18 AM, Veronica Andreo 
mailto:veroand...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I just created a PR with the proposed changes:

https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website/pull/244

best,
Vero

El sáb., 16 ene. 2021 02:34, Zoltan 
mailto:zolt...@geograph.co.za>> escribió:
Agreed, 'preview' is better.
Regards,
Zoltan

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On 16 Jan 2021, at 02:17, Markus Neteler 
mailto:nete...@osgeo.org>> wrote:

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:12 PM Michael Barton 
mailto:michael.bar...@asu.edu>> wrote:

 You are correct about the redundancy. I was trying to make the change as minor 
as possible. A somewhat better listing would be

 GRASS GIS 7.8.5 (current stable)

 GRASS GIS 7.6.1 (legacy) [change from “old”]

 GRASS GIS 7.9 (preview) [“development” is OK, but “preview” sounds more 
inviting for use]

I like the new wording.

Markus

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Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website

2021-01-16 Thread Veronica Andreo

Hi everyone,

I just created a PR with the proposed changes:

https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website/pull/244

best,
Vero

El sáb., 16 ene. 2021 02:34, Zoltan  escribió:

> Agreed, 'preview' is better.
> Regards,
> Zoltan
>
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> On 16 Jan 2021, at 02:17, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:12 PM Michael Barton  
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  You are correct about the redundancy. I was trying to make the change as 
>>> minor as possible. A somewhat better listing would be
>>>
>>>  GRASS GIS 7.8.5 (current stable)
>>>
>>>  GRASS GIS 7.6.1 (legacy) [change from “old”]
>>>
>>>  GRASS GIS 7.9 (preview) [“development” is OK, but “preview” sounds more 
>>> inviting for use]
>>>
>>
>> I like the new wording.
>>
>> Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website

2021-01-15 Thread Zoltan

Agreed, 'preview' is better.
Regards,
Zoltan

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On 16 Jan 2021, 02:17, at 02:17, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:12 PM Michael Barton
> wrote:
>>
>> You are correct about the redundancy. I was trying to make the change
>as minor as possible. A somewhat better listing would be
>>
>> GRASS GIS 7.8.5 (current stable)
>>
>> GRASS GIS 7.6.1 (legacy) [change from “old”]
>>
>> GRASS GIS 7.9 (preview) [“development” is OK, but “preview” sounds
>more inviting for use]
>
>I like the new wording.
>
>Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website

2021-01-15 Thread Michael Barton

I agree one word is better than two. Maybe just current.

Michael Barton
School of Human Evolution  Change
School of Complex Adaptive System Science
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Arizona State University

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On Jan 15, 2021, at 9:35 PM, Vaclav Petras  wrote:




On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 4:12 PM Michael Barton 
mailto:michael.bar...@asu.edu>> wrote:
You are correct about the redundancy. I was trying to make the change as minor 
as possible. A somewhat better listing would be

GRASS GIS 7.8.5 (current stable)

GRASS GIS 7.6.1 (legacy) [change from “old”]

GRASS GIS 7.9 (preview) [“development” is OK, but “preview” sounds more 
inviting for use]


+1 for legacy and especially preview, I like that a lot!

I'm unsure about "current stable". It seems like one of the works might be 
enough. I thought stable should be enough, but PostgreSQL actually uses Current 
in documentation just be itself. Isn't there a noun "release" implied in each 
of those? Aren't all releases stable unless noted otherwise? Isn't then 
"stable" redundant? Anyway, I like the proposal even as is.
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Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website

2021-01-15 Thread Vaclav Petras

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 4:12 PM Michael Barton 
wrote:

> You are correct about the redundancy. I was trying to make the change as
> minor as possible. A somewhat better listing would be
>
>
>
> *GRASS GIS 7.8.5 (current stable)*
>
>
>
> *GRASS GIS 7.6.1 (legacy) [change from “old”]*
>
>
>
> *GRASS GIS 7.9 (preview) [“development” is OK, but “preview” sounds more
> inviting for use]*
>

+1 for legacy and especially preview, I like that a lot!

I'm unsure about "current stable". It seems like one of the works might be
enough. I thought stable should be enough, but PostgreSQL actually uses
Current in documentation just be itself. Isn't there a noun "release"
implied in each of those? Aren't all releases stable unless noted
otherwise? Isn't then "stable" redundant? Anyway, I like the proposal even
as is.
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Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website

2021-01-15 Thread Markus Neteler

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:12 PM Michael Barton  wrote:
>
> You are correct about the redundancy. I was trying to make the change as 
> minor as possible. A somewhat better listing would be
>
> GRASS GIS 7.8.5 (current stable)
>
> GRASS GIS 7.6.1 (legacy) [change from “old”]
>
> GRASS GIS 7.9 (preview) [“development” is OK, but “preview” sounds more 
> inviting for use]

I like the new wording.

Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website

2021-01-15 Thread Zoltan

Hi,
If I may:

Devel (development)  has wording redundancy.
What about7.9 snapshot (under development)

Regards from a lurker that admires the effort you guys put in.
Zoltan

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On 15 Jan 2021, 21:21, at 21:21, Helena Mitasova  wrote:
>I agree with Michael’s suggestion too, Helena
>
>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Paulo van Breugel
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 5:49 PM Michael Barton
> wrote:
>> On the new download pages, I just noticed that the dev versions are
>referenced like this:
>>
>>
>>
>> GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (unstable)
>>
>>
>>
>> This implies that GRASS 7.9 is risky and perhaps minimally useable.
>The reality is that it works very well but has some new features that
>might be buggy or might change. While we want to indicate these
>differences from the current stable version, we don’t want to
>discourage people from trying it (and reporting any issues).
>>
>>
>>
>> I suggest that we reference it as
>>
>>
>>
>> GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (development)
>>
>>
>>
>> Or
>>
>>
>>
>> GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (preview)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> +1 good point, it indeed works well, and is in my experience more
>stable than many other software tools I use(d).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> __
>>
>> C. Michael Barton
>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological
>Sciences
>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems
>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change
>> Arizona State University
>> Tempe, AZ  85287-2402
>> USA
>>
>> voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC)
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>>
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>>
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Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website

2021-01-15 Thread Michael Barton

You are correct about the redundancy. I was trying to make the change as minor 
as possible. A somewhat better listing would be

GRASS GIS 7.8.5 (current stable)

GRASS GIS 7.6.1 (legacy) [change from “old”]

GRASS GIS 7.9 (preview) [“development” is OK, but “preview” sounds more 
inviting for use]

Michael
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Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological Sciences
Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems
Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ  85287-2402
USA

voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC)
fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC)
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https://complexity.asu.edu,
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From: Zoltan 
Date: Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:04 PM
To: Helena Mitasova 
Cc: Newcomb, Doug via grass-dev , Michael Barton 
, Paulo van Breugel 
Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website
Hi,
If I may:
Devel (development)  has wording redundancy.
What about7.9 snapshot (under development)
Regards from a lurker that admires the effort you guys put in.
Zoltan
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On 15 Jan 2021, at 21:21, Helena Mitasova 
mailto:hmit...@ncsu.edu>> wrote:

I agree with Michael’s suggestion too, Helena

 On Jan 15, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Paulo van Breugel  wrote:



 On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 5:49 PM Michael Barton  wrote:
 On the new download pages, I just noticed that the dev versions are referenced 
like this:



 GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (unstable)



 This implies that GRASS 7.9 is risky and perhaps minimally useable. The 
reality is that it works very well but has some new features that might be 
buggy or might change. While we want to indicate these differences from the 
current stable version, we don’t want to discourage people from trying it (and 
reporting any issues).



 I suggest that we reference it as



 GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (development)



 Or



 GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (preview)




 +1 good point, it indeed works well, and is in my experience more stable than 
many other software tools I use(d).




 Michael





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Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website

2021-01-15 Thread Jeff McKenna


+1

-jeff



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On 2021-01-15 3:14 p.m., Helena Mitasova wrote:

I agree with Michael’s suggestion too, Helena


On Jan 15, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Paulo van Breugel  wrote:



On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 5:49 PM Michael Barton  wrote:
On the new download pages, I just noticed that the dev versions are referenced 
like this:

  


GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (unstable)

  


This implies that GRASS 7.9 is risky and perhaps minimally useable. The reality 
is that it works very well but has some new features that might be buggy or 
might change. While we want to indicate these differences from the current 
stable version, we don’t want to discourage people from trying it (and 
reporting any issues).

  


I suggest that we reference it as

  


GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (development)

  


Or

  


GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (preview)




+1 good point, it indeed works well, and is in my experience more stable than 
many other software tools I use(d).

  
  


Michael

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Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change
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Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website

2021-01-15 Thread Moritz Lennert



Am 15. Januar 2021 17:35:43 MEZ schrieb Michael Barton :
>On the new download pages, I just noticed that the dev versions are referenced 
>like this:
>
>GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (unstable)
>
>This implies that GRASS 7.9 is risky and perhaps minimally useable. The 
>reality is that it works very well but has some new features that might be 
>buggy or might change. While we want to indicate these differences from the 
>current stable version, we don’t want to discourage people from trying it (and 
>reporting any issues).
>
>I suggest that we reference it as
>
>GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (development)

+1

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Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website

2021-01-15 Thread Helena Mitasova

I agree with Michael’s suggestion too, Helena

> On Jan 15, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Paulo van Breugel  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 5:49 PM Michael Barton  wrote:
> On the new download pages, I just noticed that the dev versions are 
> referenced like this:
> 
>  
> 
> GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (unstable)
> 
>  
> 
> This implies that GRASS 7.9 is risky and perhaps minimally useable. The 
> reality is that it works very well but has some new features that might be 
> buggy or might change. While we want to indicate these differences from the 
> current stable version, we don’t want to discourage people from trying it 
> (and reporting any issues).
> 
>  
> 
> I suggest that we reference it as
> 
>  
> 
> GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (development)
> 
>  
> 
> Or
> 
>  
> 
> GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (preview)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> +1 good point, it indeed works well, and is in my experience more stable than 
> many other software tools I use(d).
> 
>  
>  
> 
> Michael
> 
> __
> 
> C. Michael Barton 
> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological Sciences
> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems
> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change
> Arizona State University
> Tempe, AZ  85287-2402
> USA
> 
> voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC)
> fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC)
> www: http://shesc.asu.edu, 
> 
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> 
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Re: [GRASS-dev] minor tweak to new website

2021-01-15 Thread Paulo van Breugel

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 5:49 PM Michael Barton 
wrote:

> On the new download pages, I just noticed that the dev versions are
> referenced like this:
>
>
>
> *GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (unstable)*
>
>
>
> This implies that GRASS 7.9 is risky and perhaps minimally useable. The
> reality is that it works very well but has some new features that might be
> buggy or might change. While we want to indicate these differences from the
> current stable version, we don’t want to discourage people from trying it
> (and reporting any issues).
>
>
>
> I suggest that we reference it as
>
>
>
> *GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (development)*
>
>
>
> Or
>
>
>
> *GRASS GIS 7.9 devel (preview)*
>
>

+1 good point, it indeed works well, and is in my experience more stable
than many other software tools I use(d).



>
>
> Michael
>
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>
> C. Michael Barton
> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological
> Sciences
> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems
> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change
> Arizona State University
> Tempe, AZ  85287-2402
> USA
>
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> fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC)
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