Re: [GRASS-PSC] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Budget 2023

[Moritz Lennert]

Hi !

Just a heads-up/ reminder to avoid any possible misunderstanding : the fact 
that we put in a budget request to OSGeo and that it is approved does not mean 
that we automatically get the money. The PSC has to make an explicit request to 
the board at the moment the money needs to be spent. In other words, what OSGeo 
grants us is a _pledge_ that money is available for us up to the maximum amount 
requested, if we have actual spending.

As a concrete example: if we want part of the student grants to be paid with 
money from the OSGeo budget, we have to ask Michael to pay it out directly to 
the students from the OSGeo account.

Moritz
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Budget 2023

[Veronica Andreo]

I was checking recent years and there was nothing in the Code Sprints
table, so I did as in 2019 and put a note "(included in project request
above)"  ;)

El vie, 20 ene 2023 a las 15:58, Anna Petrášová ()
escribió:

> Should we move the $3000 to the code sprint section?
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2023#Code_Sprints
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 1:31 PM Veronica Andreo 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'd try to get into the Google Summer of Docs first. If that doesn't
>> work, we can assign one of the 2 budgeted student grants to documentation
>> tasks.
>>
>> Since the budget presentation deadline is today, I will complete the
>> OSGeo table (https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2023) asking for
>> 5000 usd mainly for GRASS GIS 40th bday community sprint and student
>> grants. See the details at:
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2023 and
>> https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2023.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Vero
>>
>> El vie, 20 ene 2023 a las 13:49, Michael Barton ()
>> escribió:
>>
>>> I think it is a good idea. The docs are very important but for a lot of
>>> reasons often get lower priority.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> _
>>>
>>> C. Michael Barton
>>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems (
>>> https://scas.asu.edu)
>>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change (
>>> https://shesc.asu.edu)
>>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity (
>>> https://complexity.asu.edu)
>>> Arizona State University
>>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>>> USA
>>>
>>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation (
>>> https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological
>>> Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>>
>>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi PSC,
>>>
>>> here an idea: our software documentation and Wiki pages are getting
>>> older, lacking examples, screenshots, overviews and so on.
>>> In the Wikis, redundant material should be streamlined.
>>>
>>> I see two possibilities:
>>> - participate in the recently announced Google season of docs
>>> (
>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/timeline__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!dZCTWD1i4KdlFTwbbn2snZP_fbm_K-uQhpFLEqhyV88msQjJY7YnlADF8p9e2U-h65NBxN3hEXnwfnNE3gk$
>>> )
>>> - offer a documentation related mini grant, ideally financed by OSGeo
>>> (then it would be relevant for today's budget submission)
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> best
>>> Markus
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Budget 2023

[Anna Petrášová]

Should we move the $3000 to the code sprint section?
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2023#Code_Sprints


On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 1:31 PM Veronica Andreo 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'd try to get into the Google Summer of Docs first. If that doesn't work,
> we can assign one of the 2 budgeted student grants to documentation tasks.
>
> Since the budget presentation deadline is today, I will complete the OSGeo
> table (https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2023) asking for 5000 usd
> mainly for GRASS GIS 40th bday community sprint and student grants. See the
> details at: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2023 and
> https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2023.
>
> Cheers,
> Vero
>
> El vie, 20 ene 2023 a las 13:49, Michael Barton ()
> escribió:
>
>> I think it is a good idea. The docs are very important but for a lot of
>> reasons often get lower priority.
>>
>> Michael
>> _
>>
>> C. Michael Barton
>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems (
>> https://scas.asu.edu)
>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change (
>> https://shesc.asu.edu)
>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity (
>> https://complexity.asu.edu)
>> Arizona State University
>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>> USA
>>
>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation (
>> https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological
>> Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>
>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton
>>
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>>
>> Hi PSC,
>>
>> here an idea: our software documentation and Wiki pages are getting
>> older, lacking examples, screenshots, overviews and so on.
>> In the Wikis, redundant material should be streamlined.
>>
>> I see two possibilities:
>> - participate in the recently announced Google season of docs
>> (
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/timeline__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!dZCTWD1i4KdlFTwbbn2snZP_fbm_K-uQhpFLEqhyV88msQjJY7YnlADF8p9e2U-h65NBxN3hEXnwfnNE3gk$
>> )
>> - offer a documentation related mini grant, ideally financed by OSGeo
>> (then it would be relevant for today's budget submission)
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> best
>> Markus
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Budget 2023

[Vaclav Petras]

Thanks Vero. Keeping focus on the 40th bday sprint and using the existing
grant program makes sense as well as the numbers for the sprint - as far as
I understood what OSGeo asks for, we need to seek sponsorship for it anyway.

Vaclav

On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 at 13:31, Veronica Andreo  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'd try to get into the Google Summer of Docs first. If that doesn't work,
> we can assign one of the 2 budgeted student grants to documentation tasks.
>
> Since the budget presentation deadline is today, I will complete the OSGeo
> table (https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2023) asking for 5000 usd
> mainly for GRASS GIS 40th bday community sprint and student grants. See the
> details at: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2023 and
> https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2023.
>
> Cheers,
> Vero
>
> El vie, 20 ene 2023 a las 13:49, Michael Barton ()
> escribió:
>
>> I think it is a good idea. The docs are very important but for a lot of
>> reasons often get lower priority.
>>
>> Michael
>> _
>>
>> C. Michael Barton
>> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems (
>> https://scas.asu.edu)
>> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change (
>> https://shesc.asu.edu)
>> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity (
>> https://complexity.asu.edu)
>> Arizona State University
>> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
>> USA
>>
>> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation (
>> https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
>> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological
>> Sciences (https://comses.net)
>>
>> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton
>>
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>>
>> Hi PSC,
>>
>> here an idea: our software documentation and Wiki pages are getting
>> older, lacking examples, screenshots, overviews and so on.
>> In the Wikis, redundant material should be streamlined.
>>
>> I see two possibilities:
>> - participate in the recently announced Google season of docs
>> (
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/timeline__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!dZCTWD1i4KdlFTwbbn2snZP_fbm_K-uQhpFLEqhyV88msQjJY7YnlADF8p9e2U-h65NBxN3hEXnwfnNE3gk$
>> )
>> - offer a documentation related mini grant, ideally financed by OSGeo
>> (then it would be relevant for today's budget submission)
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> best
>> Markus
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Budget 2023

[Veronica Andreo]

Hi all,

I'd try to get into the Google Summer of Docs first. If that doesn't work,
we can assign one of the 2 budgeted student grants to documentation tasks.

Since the budget presentation deadline is today, I will complete the OSGeo
table (https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2023) asking for 5000 usd
mainly for GRASS GIS 40th bday community sprint and student grants. See the
details at: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2023 and
https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2023.

Cheers,
Vero

El vie, 20 ene 2023 a las 13:49, Michael Barton ()
escribió:

> I think it is a good idea. The docs are very important but for a lot of
> reasons often get lower priority.
>
> Michael
> _
>
> C. Michael Barton
> Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems (
> https://scas.asu.edu)
> Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change (
> https://shesc.asu.edu)
> Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity (
> https://complexity.asu.edu)
> Arizona State University
> Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
> USA
>
> Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation (
> https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
> Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological
> Sciences (https://comses.net)
>
> personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>
> Hi PSC,
>
> here an idea: our software documentation and Wiki pages are getting
> older, lacking examples, screenshots, overviews and so on.
> In the Wikis, redundant material should be streamlined.
>
> I see two possibilities:
> - participate in the recently announced Google season of docs
> (
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/timeline__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!dZCTWD1i4KdlFTwbbn2snZP_fbm_K-uQhpFLEqhyV88msQjJY7YnlADF8p9e2U-h65NBxN3hEXnwfnNE3gk$
> )
> - offer a documentation related mini grant, ideally financed by OSGeo
> (then it would be relevant for today's budget submission)
>
> What do you think?
>
> best
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Budget 2023

[Michael Barton]

I think it is a good idea. The docs are very important but for a lot of reasons 
often get lower priority.

Michael
_

C. Michael Barton
Associate Director, School of Complex Adaptive Systems 
(https://scas.asu.edu)
Professor, School of Human Evolution & Social Change (https://shesc.asu.edu)
Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity (https://complexity.asu.edu)
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-2701
USA

Executive Director, Open Modeling Foundation 
(https://openmodelingfoundation.github.io)
Director, Network for Computational Modeling in Social & Ecological Sciences 
(https://comses.net)

personal website: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton


On Jan 20, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

Hi PSC,

here an idea: our software documentation and Wiki pages are getting
older, lacking examples, screenshots, overviews and so on.
In the Wikis, redundant material should be streamlined.

I see two possibilities:
- participate in the recently announced Google season of docs
(https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/timeline__;!!IKRxdwAv5BmarQ!dZCTWD1i4KdlFTwbbn2snZP_fbm_K-uQhpFLEqhyV88msQjJY7YnlADF8p9e2U-h65NBxN3hEXnwfnNE3gk$
 )
- offer a documentation related mini grant, ideally financed by OSGeo
(then it would be relevant for today's budget submission)

What do you think?

best
Markus
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Budget 2023

[Markus Neteler]

Hi PSC,

here an idea: our software documentation and Wiki pages are getting
older, lacking examples, screenshots, overviews and so on.
In the Wikis, redundant material should be streamlined.

I see two possibilities:
- participate in the recently announced Google season of docs
(https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/timeline)
- offer a documentation related mini grant, ideally financed by OSGeo
(then it would be relevant for today's budget submission)

What do you think?

best
Markus
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Budget 2023

[Veronica Andreo]

Hi all,

I'm on it, yes, I'll submit later today. I am now converting the
spreadsheet in nextcloud to wiki format.
If someone wants to change something or add more money, please let me know
here

Cheers,
Vero

El vie, 20 ene 2023 a las 9:48, Markus Neteler ()
escribió:

> Hi PSC,
>
> The deadline is today.
> I'm traveling for most of the day, with intermittent internet access.
>
> Will you, Vero, submit your request?
>
> Best
> Markus
>
>
> Markus Neteler  schrieb am Mi., 4. Jan. 2023, 20:07:
>
>> Hi PSC,
>>
>> The deadline for the 2023 budget proposal for the OSGeo board is
>> January 20, see below.
>>
>> Markus
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Angelos Tzotsos via Discuss 
>> Date: Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 12:49 PM
>> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Budget 2023
>> To: OSGeo Discussions 
>>
>> Dear OSGeo project members and committees,
>>
>> Over the previous years, OSGeo has been proud to support a growing
>> number of project events, such as code sprints, developer meetings and
>> user conferences.
>>
>> OSGeo continues to execute the annual budget, and is reaching out to all
>> committees (including Project Steering Committees), to help plan our
>> budget for 2023.
>>
>> In 2022, the Board assigned an initial amount of 500 USD to all
>> graduated projects who have reported to the Board the activities of the
>> last 12 months (e.g. during the AGM or directly to a Board meeting) and
>> have sent a budget request.
>>
>> Given the success of FOSS4G 2022 we are in the position to support our
>> projects again as before. For 2023, the Board is planning to continue to
>> offer a budget to all graduated projects with the exact amount to be
>> determined.
>>
>> To help navigate the uncertainties ahead in 2023, the Board is planning
>> to have a budget meeting within January 2023 to review 2022
>> expenditures, sponsorship and make financial decisions for the 2023
>> budget.
>>
>> Projects with a more specific plan (to pursue a clear goal) are welcome
>> to send a more detailed request for approval (see detailed budget
>> requests from 2022 e.g.
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoServer_Budget_2022) A good idea is to
>> focus on OSGeo participation, for example attending the AGM or a code
>> sprint. Also, keep in mind OSGeo goals as an organization.
>>
>> Please add your project info to the budget draft at:
>>
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2023
>> 
>>
>> Project budget requests should be submitted ideally by 20 January 2023
>> in advance of our next Board meeting.
>>
>> Thank you and Happy New Year!
>> On behalf of the OSGeo Board,
>> Angelos
>>
>> --
>> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
>> President
>> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Budget 2023

[Markus Neteler]

Hi PSC,

The deadline is today.
I'm traveling for most of the day, with intermittent internet access.

Will you, Vero, submit your request?

Best
Markus


Markus Neteler  schrieb am Mi., 4. Jan. 2023, 20:07:

> Hi PSC,
>
> The deadline for the 2023 budget proposal for the OSGeo board is
> January 20, see below.
>
> Markus
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Angelos Tzotsos via Discuss 
> Date: Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 12:49 PM
> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Budget 2023
> To: OSGeo Discussions 
>
> Dear OSGeo project members and committees,
>
> Over the previous years, OSGeo has been proud to support a growing
> number of project events, such as code sprints, developer meetings and
> user conferences.
>
> OSGeo continues to execute the annual budget, and is reaching out to all
> committees (including Project Steering Committees), to help plan our
> budget for 2023.
>
> In 2022, the Board assigned an initial amount of 500 USD to all
> graduated projects who have reported to the Board the activities of the
> last 12 months (e.g. during the AGM or directly to a Board meeting) and
> have sent a budget request.
>
> Given the success of FOSS4G 2022 we are in the position to support our
> projects again as before. For 2023, the Board is planning to continue to
> offer a budget to all graduated projects with the exact amount to be
> determined.
>
> To help navigate the uncertainties ahead in 2023, the Board is planning
> to have a budget meeting within January 2023 to review 2022
> expenditures, sponsorship and make financial decisions for the 2023 budget.
>
> Projects with a more specific plan (to pursue a clear goal) are welcome
> to send a more detailed request for approval (see detailed budget
> requests from 2022 e.g.
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoServer_Budget_2022) A good idea is to
> focus on OSGeo participation, for example attending the AGM or a code
> sprint. Also, keep in mind OSGeo goals as an organization.
>
> Please add your project info to the budget draft at:
>
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2023
> 
>
> Project budget requests should be submitted ideally by 20 January 2023
> in advance of our next Board meeting.
>
> Thank you and Happy New Year!
> On behalf of the OSGeo Board,
> Angelos
>
> --
> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
> President
> Open Source Geospatial Foundation
> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Budget 2023

[Markus Neteler]

Hi PSC,

On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 8:07 PM Markus Neteler  wrote:
>
> Hi PSC,
>
> The deadline for the 2023 budget proposal for the OSGeo board is
> January 20, see below.

Thanks to Vero we have a new Wiki page
(https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_GIS_Budget_2023) and also the
related ODS file updated in our PSC nextcloud.osgeo.org account.

Concerning the budget, I would like to bring forward the following idea:

Weblate (our translation tool,
https://weblate.osgeo.org/projects/grass-gis/) offers a plugin for
machine translation, e.g. using DeepL.
Given the amount of untranslated messages I'd suggest that we give it
a try. Certainly, these messages need to be validated but I can image
that the speed is way higher than doing it all manually.

Proposal: identify a small sub-budget to play around with machine
translations in Weblate, using one of the related machine translation
APIs (https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/admin/machine.html).

Best,
Markus
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