[GRASS-PSC] next PSC task

2016-09-16 Thread Helmut Kudrnovsky
Dear PSC, 

after the election of the new PSC, before defining the new chair, may I (as
a community member) ask you what will be the next task of the PSC?

when will be the new chair announced? 

I think an important first/next step to broaden the dev community may be to
investigate how new source code management technologies like GIT could be
implemented beside/instead of svn.

There are ongoing some OSGeo initiatives to provide GIT infrastructure for
OSGeo projects? Will be the GRASS GIS project will use such new
technologies?

Python 3 is heavily knocking on the door.

Will there be some lead of the new PSC regarding these challenges? 

Thanks for clarifications!



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Re: [GRASS-PSC] next PSC task

2016-09-18 Thread Markus Neteler
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:47 PM, Helmut Kudrnovsky  wrote:
> Dear PSC,
>
> after the election of the new PSC, before defining the new chair, may I (as
> a community member) ask you what will be the next task of the PSC?
>
> when will be the new chair announced?

IMHO we need to have someone besides the current candidate(s) to
organize the election of the chair.
I hoped for some faster pace here :-)

> I think an important first/next step to broaden the dev community may be to
> investigate how new source code management technologies like GIT could be
> implemented beside/instead of svn.

It was on the recent community sprint agenda, with no real outcome.
We do need a git *expert* for this. Anyone?
However, I believe that this topic is more a technical rather than a
political one which belongs to grass-dev.

> There are ongoing some OSGeo initiatives to provide GIT infrastructure for
> OSGeo projects? Will be the GRASS GIS project will use such new
> technologies?

At time there is some experimental setup:

GRASS GIS is obviously already registered there but a git *expert* is
needed. In addition we have to understand how to use git and svn
together (like GDAL appears to do) and when the experimental stage
will be turned into production mode.

> Python 3 is heavily knocking on the door.

IMHO also the Python 3 is a grass-dev topic.

> Will there be some lead of the new PSC regarding these challenges?

For sure the new PSC will do related house keeping but the technical
part should remain in the grass-dev discussion space unless there is a
strong motivation to make it a PSC task.

> Thanks for clarifications!

Urgent is the election of the chair.

Best
Markus
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] next PSC task

2016-09-18 Thread Helmut Kudrnovsky
>IMHO we need to have someone besides the current candidate(s) to 
>organize the election of the chair. 
>I hoped for some faster pace here :-) 

is there a similar system /infrastructure needed as for the PSC voting?



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Re: [GRASS-PSC] next PSC task

2016-09-18 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2016-09-18 18:51 GMT+02:00 Markus Neteler :
> It was on the recent community sprint agenda, with no real outcome.
> We do need a git *expert* for this. Anyone?
> However, I believe that this topic is more a technical rather than a
> political one which belongs to grass-dev.

I am willing to help with this issue. Probably others will be
interested too, Vaclav? Ma

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Re: [GRASS-PSC] next PSC task

2016-09-18 Thread Vaclav Petras
On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Martin Landa 
wrote:

> 2016-09-18 18:51 GMT+02:00 Markus Neteler :
> > It was on the recent community sprint agenda, with no real outcome.
> > We do need a git *expert* for this. Anyone?
> > However, I believe that this topic is more a technical rather than a
> > political one which belongs to grass-dev.
>
> I am willing to help with this issue. Probably others will be
> interested too, Vaclav? Ma


Yes, to certain extent. However, I think it is not purely technical and it
is coupled with OSGeo and other OSGeo projects.
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] next PSC task

2016-09-18 Thread Markus Neteler
On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Vaclav Petras  wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Martin Landa 
> wrote:
>>
>> 2016-09-18 18:51 GMT+02:00 Markus Neteler :
>> > It was on the recent community sprint agenda, with no real outcome.
>> > We do need a git *expert* for this. Anyone?
>> > However, I believe that this topic is more a technical rather than a
>> > political one which belongs to grass-dev.
>>
>> I am willing to help with this issue. Probably others will be
>> interested too, Vaclav? Ma
>
>
> Yes, to certain extent. However, I think it is not purely technical and it
> is coupled with OSGeo and other OSGeo projects.

Right- But the PSC is only involved once the technical aspects are clear.

E.g., we (at grass-dev) may check first how it works for GDAL.

Markus
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] next PSC task

2016-09-19 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 18/09/16 20:50, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Vaclav Petras  wrote:

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Martin Landa 
wrote:


2016-09-18 18:51 GMT+02:00 Markus Neteler :

It was on the recent community sprint agenda, with no real outcome.
We do need a git *expert* for this. Anyone?
However, I believe that this topic is more a technical rather than a
political one which belongs to grass-dev.


I am willing to help with this issue. Probably others will be
interested too, Vaclav? Ma



Yes, to certain extent. However, I think it is not purely technical and it
is coupled with OSGeo and other OSGeo projects.


Right- But the PSC is only involved once the technical aspects are clear.


One of the questions I would think we should think about from the 
beginning is whether we really want to run with a double system (svn and 
git) or whether it might be easier in the long run, to completely switch 
over to git...


Moritz
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Re: [GRASS-PSC] next PSC task

2016-11-02 Thread Nikos Alexandris

* Moritz Lennert  [2016-09-19 11:12:09 +0200]:


On 18/09/16 20:50, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Vaclav Petras  wrote:

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Martin Landa 
wrote:


2016-09-18 18:51 GMT+02:00 Markus Neteler :

It was on the recent community sprint agenda, with no real outcome.
We do need a git *expert* for this. Anyone?
However, I believe that this topic is more a technical rather than a
political one which belongs to grass-dev.


I am willing to help with this issue. Probably others will be
interested too, Vaclav? Ma



Yes, to certain extent. However, I think it is not purely technical and it
is coupled with OSGeo and other OSGeo projects.


Right- But the PSC is only involved once the technical aspects are clear.


One of the questions I would think we should think about from the
beginning is whether we really want to run with a double system (svn and
git) or whether it might be easier in the long run, to completely switch
over to git...


From my point of view, git is easier.  I have experiences now, like many
in the GRASS community, controlling almost everything ascii using git
(not only code).  My experiences in resolving conflicts, though, when it
comes to merge branches, are, indeed, limited.  I did a few stuff, but
not enough.

But we should just go for it, in the beginning, at least, experimental
and playing around in a sandbox-like repository.

Cheers, Nikos
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