Re: [GRASS-user] Best format for exporting raster data

2010-09-03 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 02/09/10 21:21, Glynn Clements wrote:
 
 Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 But GRASS doesn't generally read data from files per se, but from
 either the GRASS database or from GDAL (and the former might
 eventually go away if we can get native GRASS support into GDAL).

 I don't understand that statement - I am the database is ultimately a
 file, so grass is requesting the data from the database which then reads
 it from the mapset which consists of files.
 
 Ultimately, it's files, but only at the lowest level of the core
 libraries. Modules get their data from the GRASS database, but the
 nature of that database is an implementation detail.

OK - that's clear.

 
 And gdal is used when data is read which is not in the mapset -
 right?
 
 GDAL is used if you create a linked map using r.external or
 r.external.out. 

Makes sense.

 
 Similarly, while there exist filesystems which can mount archives, tar
 files (and especially compressed tar files) are a poor choice, as they
 are designed for sequential access. ZIP/RAR are more suited to such
 tasks.

 but they can actually be mounted as was pointed out by Markus Neteler
 (http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/132196).
 
 They can, but the filesystem will have to decompress a substantial
 part of the archive just to access one file. If you use zip/rar, it
 only has to decompress files which are accessed.

That is definitely an interesting detail, I was not aware of. I will
definitely think about using one of those.

 
 Ultimately, I don't think that this situation is common enough to be
 worth doing anything about. If you want to access archived data, you
 just unpack the archives first (or use an archive format which can be
 mounted).

 I'll folow the following approach: I'll leave the data uncompressed,
 until the analysis are completed (I have a new 2TB hdd now) and will
 compress them into tar.gz files as soon as the project is finished. If I
 need them again, I will use archivemount to access the data.
 
 If you're planning on using archivemount, use zip/rar rather than
 .tar.gz (and don't use solid rar archives, which have the same
 problems with random access as tar files).

Thanks for this tip - I will likely do as suggested.

Cheers,

Rainer

 


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Re: [GRASS-user] Best format for exporting raster data

2010-09-02 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 01/09/10 19:45, Glynn Clements wrote:
 
 Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
 It would be nice, if grass would be able to deal with on-the-fly
 decompression - not from a .tar.gz file, but from gz compressed files.
 
 GRASS rasters are already compressed by default, either using RLE or
 zlib compression (OTOH, the null bitmap isn't compressed; that will
 cease to be an issue if we embed nulls into the raster data).

That is good to know - as mentioned in an earlier email, I will then
leave as it is. I actually compared the size of the compresses grass
folder with the non-compressed one, and the difference did not justify
the effort.

 
 But GRASS doesn't generally read data from files per se, but from
 either the GRASS database or from GDAL (and the former might
 eventually go away if we can get native GRASS support into GDAL).

I don't understand that statement - I am the database is ultimately a
file, so grass is requesting the data from the database which then reads
it from the mapset which consists of files. And gdal is used when data
is read which is not in the mapset - right?

 
 The main issue with on-the-fly decompression using general-purpose
 formats is that rasters aren't guaranteed to be read sequentially,
 while compression algorithms require sequential access.

Makes sense - thanks for the clarification.

 
 Similarly, while there exist filesystems which can mount archives, tar
 files (and especially compressed tar files) are a poor choice, as they
 are designed for sequential access. ZIP/RAR are more suited to such
 tasks.

but they can actually be mounted as was pointed out by Markus Neteler
(http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/132196).

 
 Ultimately, I don't think that this situation is common enough to be
 worth doing anything about. If you want to access archived data, you
 just unpack the archives first (or use an archive format which can be
 mounted).

I'll folow the following approach: I'll leave the data uncompressed,
until the analysis are completed (I have a new 2TB hdd now) and will
compress them into tar.gz files as soon as the project is finished. If I
need them again, I will use archivemount to access the data.

Thanks everybody for your help,

Rainer

 


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Re: [GRASS-user] Best format for exporting raster data

2010-09-02 Thread Glynn Clements

Rainer M Krug wrote:

  But GRASS doesn't generally read data from files per se, but from
  either the GRASS database or from GDAL (and the former might
  eventually go away if we can get native GRASS support into GDAL).
 
 I don't understand that statement - I am the database is ultimately a
 file, so grass is requesting the data from the database which then reads
 it from the mapset which consists of files.

Ultimately, it's files, but only at the lowest level of the core
libraries. Modules get their data from the GRASS database, but the
nature of that database is an implementation detail.

 And gdal is used when data is read which is not in the mapset -
 right?

GDAL is used if you create a linked map using r.external or
r.external.out. 

  Similarly, while there exist filesystems which can mount archives, tar
  files (and especially compressed tar files) are a poor choice, as they
  are designed for sequential access. ZIP/RAR are more suited to such
  tasks.
 
 but they can actually be mounted as was pointed out by Markus Neteler
 (http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/132196).

They can, but the filesystem will have to decompress a substantial
part of the archive just to access one file. If you use zip/rar, it
only has to decompress files which are accessed.

  Ultimately, I don't think that this situation is common enough to be
  worth doing anything about. If you want to access archived data, you
  just unpack the archives first (or use an archive format which can be
  mounted).
 
 I'll folow the following approach: I'll leave the data uncompressed,
 until the analysis are completed (I have a new 2TB hdd now) and will
 compress them into tar.gz files as soon as the project is finished. If I
 need them again, I will use archivemount to access the data.

If you're planning on using archivemount, use zip/rar rather than
.tar.gz (and don't use solid rar archives, which have the same
problems with random access as tar files).

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Re: [GRASS-user] Best format for exporting raster data

2010-09-01 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 31/08/10 16:56, Sylvain Maillard wrote:
 Perhaps can you add an extra loop in your scripts for processing your data:
 1 - extract the tarball
 2 - import the raster in R
 3 - and then delete the temporary uncompressed mapset.

Yes - that would be the crude force approach. In my case, it would
very likely take more time, as there are MANY more layers in the .tar.gz
then I use.
I am now thinking about extracting all files with fire in  them and to
use this subset as a mapset - I will see if it works.

It would be nice, if grass would be able to deal with on-the-fly
decompression - not from a .tar.gz file, but from gz compressed files.

Cheers,

Rainer


 it will take a little bit more space but just for one mapset at a time,
 and I don't thing the process will be much slower than to access the
 files directly into the compressed tarball ...
 
 you can also buy more hard drive :D
 
 if you make some benchmark test between different solution I will be
 interreted in the results, I'm also working on a huge amound of raster
 data within GRASS and R ...

I'll do - although I don't think I will do benchmarks at that time.

Cheers,

Rainer


 
 regards,
 Sylvain Maillard
 
 Doctorant en Sciences de l'Environnement
 Laboratoire Chimie Provence - UMR 6264 / Université de Provence
 la Tour du Valat - Centre de recherche pour la conservation des zones
 humides méditerranéennes
 Le Sambuc
 13200 Arles
 France
 tél:04.90.97.29.79
 fax:04.90.97.20.19
 www.tourduvalat.org http://www.tourduvalat.org
 
 
 
 2010/8/31 Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com mailto:r.m.k...@gmail.com
 
 On 31/08/10 16:38, Markus Neteler wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com
 mailto:r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...
 I would leave it in GRASS and use the R-GRASS interface and/or the
 GDAL-GRASS plugin. See the Wiki for details.

 I am doing that already - but I don't think that works when I
 have the
 grass mapset compressed as a .tar.gz?
 
 I found archivemount which apparently lets you
 mount a possibly compressed tarball as a filesystem:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivemount
 http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/132196
 
 Sounds interesting - I'll look into that.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Rainer
 
 
 Cheers
 Markus
 
 
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Re: [GRASS-user] Best format for exporting raster data

2010-09-01 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 01/09/10 10:15, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 On 31/08/10 16:56, Sylvain Maillard wrote:
 Perhaps can you add an extra loop in your scripts for processing your data:
 1 - extract the tarball
 2 - import the raster in R
 3 - and then delete the temporary uncompressed mapset.
 
 Yes - that would be the crude force approach. In my case, it would
 very likely take more time, as there are MANY more layers in the .tar.gz
 then I use.
 I am now thinking about extracting all files with fire in  them and to
 use this subset as a mapset - I will see if it works.
 
 It would be nice, if grass would be able to deal with on-the-fly
 decompression - not from a .tar.gz file, but from gz compressed files.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rainer
 
 
 it will take a little bit more space but just for one mapset at a time,
 and I don't thing the process will be much slower than to access the
 files directly into the compressed tarball ...
 
 you can also buy more hard drive :D
 
 if you make some benchmark test between different solution I will be
 interreted in the results, I'm also working on a huge amound of raster
 data within GRASS and R ...
 
 I'll do - although I don't think I will do benchmarks at that time.

I am trying archivemounter and it has some interesting benchmarks on the
website http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/132196

Cheers,

Rainer

 
 Cheers,
 
 Rainer
 
 
 
 regards,
 Sylvain Maillard
 
 Doctorant en Sciences de l'Environnement
 Laboratoire Chimie Provence - UMR 6264 / Université de Provence
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 humides méditerranéennes
 Le Sambuc
 13200 Arles
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 fax:04.90.97.20.19
 www.tourduvalat.org http://www.tourduvalat.org
 
 
 
 2010/8/31 Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com mailto:r.m.k...@gmail.com
 
 On 31/08/10 16:38, Markus Neteler wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com
 mailto:r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...
 I would leave it in GRASS and use the R-GRASS interface and/or the
 GDAL-GRASS plugin. See the Wiki for details.

 I am doing that already - but I don't think that works when I
 have the
 grass mapset compressed as a .tar.gz?
 
 I found archivemount which apparently lets you
 mount a possibly compressed tarball as a filesystem:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivemount
 http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/132196
 
 Sounds interesting - I'll look into that.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Rainer
 
 
 Cheers
 Markus
 
 
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Re: [GRASS-user] Best format for exporting raster data

2010-09-01 Thread Markus Metz
Rainer M Krug wrote:
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 Hi

 I am creating a huge amount of raster layers during my simulations, and
 I would like to archive then to enable further analysis. At the moment I
 am leaving them in the grass database and compress the whole mapset into
 a tar.gz file. But this is rather cumbersome, if I want to extract some
 selected layers and analyse them further (my analysis is done in R).
 Therefore I would like to export the created layers while the simulation
 is running and to delete them from the grass database.
 My question: what is the best format for this?
 It should :
 - - contain all the information contained in the raster layer in the grass
 mapset
 - - be readable by at least gdal
 - - be preferably compressed (but I can compress them after export)

 At the moment I am using for a similar purpose the esri asc grid, but I
 am somehow critical about the fact that it uses a text representation of
 my data with limited decimals, therefore probably loosing information
 compared with the grass file.

 Are Binary fiels a better option (in the manual it states Exports, not
 converts as in the esri ascii grid) and can I read them from R or gdal?

Raster data (the actual data grids) are already compressed in GRASS,
nothing much to gain there to compress already compressed data. You
can try to set GRASS_INT_ZLIB [1] and check if this gives better
compression than the default RLE for CELL maps.

Generally, the recommended export format is GeoTIFF which supports
various internal compression methods. A high compression ratio is
achieved with LZW and DEFLATE.

Not all packages using gdal support all gdal features, DEFLATE in
particular is often not supported by packages using their own modified
gdal version (does not apply to packages using an external gdal
library, e.g. GRASS, R, QGIS).

Markus M

[1] http://grass.osgeo.org/grass64/manuals/html64_user/variables.html
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Re: [GRASS-user] Best format for exporting raster data

2010-09-01 Thread Glynn Clements

Rainer M Krug wrote:

 It would be nice, if grass would be able to deal with on-the-fly
 decompression - not from a .tar.gz file, but from gz compressed files.

GRASS rasters are already compressed by default, either using RLE or
zlib compression (OTOH, the null bitmap isn't compressed; that will
cease to be an issue if we embed nulls into the raster data).

But GRASS doesn't generally read data from files per se, but from
either the GRASS database or from GDAL (and the former might
eventually go away if we can get native GRASS support into GDAL).

The main issue with on-the-fly decompression using general-purpose
formats is that rasters aren't guaranteed to be read sequentially,
while compression algorithms require sequential access.

Similarly, while there exist filesystems which can mount archives, tar
files (and especially compressed tar files) are a poor choice, as they
are designed for sequential access. ZIP/RAR are more suited to such
tasks.

Ultimately, I don't think that this situation is common enough to be
worth doing anything about. If you want to access archived data, you
just unpack the archives first (or use an archive format which can be
mounted).

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[GRASS-user] Best format for exporting raster data

2010-08-31 Thread Rainer M Krug
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Hi

I am creating a huge amount of raster layers during my simulations, and
I would like to archive then to enable further analysis. At the moment I
am leaving them in the grass database and compress the whole mapset into
a tar.gz file. But this is rather cumbersome, if I want to extract some
selected layers and analyse them further (my analysis is done in R).
Therefore I would like to export the created layers while the simulation
is running and to delete them from the grass database.
My question: what is the best format for this?
It should :
- - contain all the information contained in the raster layer in the grass
mapset
- - be readable by at least gdal
- - be preferably compressed (but I can compress them after export)

At the moment I am using for a similar purpose the esri asc grid, but I
am somehow critical about the fact that it uses a text representation of
my data with limited decimals, therefore probably loosing information
compared with the grass file.

Are Binary fiels a better option (in the manual it states Exports, not
converts as in the esri ascii grid) and can I read them from R or gdal?

Any ideas welcome,

Rainer


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Re: [GRASS-user] Best format for exporting raster data

2010-08-31 Thread Markus Neteler
hi Rainer,

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
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 Hi

 I am creating a huge amount of raster layers during my simulations, and
 I would like to archive then to enable further analysis. At the moment I
 am leaving them in the grass database and compress the whole mapset into
 a tar.gz file. But this is rather cumbersome, if I want to extract some
 selected layers and analyse them further (my analysis is done in R).

Wht don't you simple use the R-GRASS interface?

 Therefore I would like to export the created layers while the simulation
 is running and to delete them from the grass database.
 My question: what is the best format for this?
 It should :
 - - contain all the information contained in the raster layer in the grass
 mapset
 - - be readable by at least gdal
 - - be preferably compressed (but I can compress them after export)

I would leave it in GRASS and use the R-GRASS interface and/or the
GDAL-GRASS plugin. See the Wiki for details.

Cheers
Markus
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Re: [GRASS-user] Best format for exporting raster data

2010-08-31 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 31/08/10 15:38, Markus Neteler wrote:
 hi Rainer,

Hi Markus,

 
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
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 Hi

 I am creating a huge amount of raster layers during my simulations, and
 I would like to archive then to enable further analysis. At the moment I
 am leaving them in the grass database and compress the whole mapset into
 a tar.gz file. But this is rather cumbersome, if I want to extract some
 selected layers and analyse them further (my analysis is done in R).
 
 Wht don't you simple use the R-GRASS interface?

I do - but I haven't mentioned it, after completing the simulation I
want to compress the data to save space.

 
 Therefore I would like to export the created layers while the simulation
 is running and to delete them from the grass database.
 My question: what is the best format for this?
 It should :
 - - contain all the information contained in the raster layer in the grass
 mapset
 - - be readable by at least gdal
 - - be preferably compressed (but I can compress them after export)
 
 I would leave it in GRASS and use the R-GRASS interface and/or the
 GDAL-GRASS plugin. See the Wiki for details.

I am doing that already - but I don't think that works when I have the
grass mapset compressed as a .tar.gz?

Cheers,

Rainer


 
 Cheers
 Markus


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Re: [GRASS-user] Best format for exporting raster data

2010-08-31 Thread Markus Neteler
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
...
 I would leave it in GRASS and use the R-GRASS interface and/or the
 GDAL-GRASS plugin. See the Wiki for details.

 I am doing that already - but I don't think that works when I have the
 grass mapset compressed as a .tar.gz?

I found archivemount which apparently lets you
mount a possibly compressed tarball as a filesystem:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivemount
http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/132196

Cheers
Markus
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Re: [GRASS-user] Best format for exporting raster data

2010-08-31 Thread Rainer M Krug
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On 31/08/10 16:38, Markus Neteler wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...
 I would leave it in GRASS and use the R-GRASS interface and/or the
 GDAL-GRASS plugin. See the Wiki for details.

 I am doing that already - but I don't think that works when I have the
 grass mapset compressed as a .tar.gz?
 
 I found archivemount which apparently lets you
 mount a possibly compressed tarball as a filesystem:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivemount
 http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/132196

Sounds interesting - I'll look into that.

Thanks,

Rainer

 
 Cheers
 Markus


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Re: [GRASS-user] Best format for exporting raster data

2010-08-31 Thread Sylvain Maillard
Perhaps can you add an extra loop in your scripts for processing your data:
1 - extract the tarball
2 - import the raster in R
3 - and then delete the temporary uncompressed mapset.
it will take a little bit more space but just for one mapset at a time, and
I don't thing the process will be much slower than to access the files
directly into the compressed tarball ...

you can also buy more hard drive :D

if you make some benchmark test between different solution I will be
interreted in the results, I'm also working on a huge amound of raster data
within GRASS and R ...

regards,
Sylvain Maillard

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2010/8/31 Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com

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 On 31/08/10 16:38, Markus Neteler wrote:
  On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  ...
  I would leave it in GRASS and use the R-GRASS interface and/or the
  GDAL-GRASS plugin. See the Wiki for details.
 
  I am doing that already - but I don't think that works when I have the
  grass mapset compressed as a .tar.gz?
 
  I found archivemount which apparently lets you
  mount a possibly compressed tarball as a filesystem:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivemount
  http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/132196

 Sounds interesting - I'll look into that.

 Thanks,

 Rainer

 
  Cheers
  Markus


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