[GreenYouth] (Fwded Link) Electric Vehicle Project in San Fransisco Bay Area -Story in Washington Times by Rajeev Poduval

2009-08-02 Thread Venugopalan K M

The story on the EV project in the SF bay area has been posted as the
lead story of the National page of the Washington Times. Here is the
link:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/02/bay-area-revs-up-electric-car-future/

Thanks

Regards,
Rajeev

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[GreenYouth] infested with the ghost of "gandhi" family !!

2009-08-02 Thread Ranjit Ranjit
An interesting list which shows how horribly the ghost of Gandhi family had
spread in our society that too using public money!!




Oh Indian Politicians! !!

Nehru ,Indira, Rajiv Gandhi !!!

http://madhavgopalkrish.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/dinasti-nehru-gandhi_q8u
qh_21916.jpg

Tum logo ke naam kitnee sare kaam?

*A "short" list of schemes, roads etc. for Nehru-Gandhi dynasty promotion
with Tax Payers money!
*
Following is the list of Government schemes and projects; universities and
educational institutions; ports and airports; National parks and
sanctuaries; sports tournaments, trophies and stadia; hospitals and medical
institutions; national scientific and research institutions; University
chairs, scholarships and fellowships; festivals; roads and buildings named
after three members of the Nehru Gandhi family, Rajiv Gandhi, Indira Gandhi
and Jawaharlal Nehru, *which has been submitted to the Election Commission .
*
This list includes most of the projects, schemes and institutions funded by
the Union Government and the Governments in the States.

Central

1 Rajiv Gandhi Grameen Vidyutikaran Yojana;

2 Rajiv Gandhi National Drinking Water Mission;

3 Rajiv Gandhi National Crèche Scheme for the Children of Working Mothers,
Department of Women & Child Development;

4. Rajiv Gandhi Udyami Mitra Yojana;

5 Indira Awas Yojana

6 Indira Gandhi National Old Age Pension Scheme;

7 Jawaharlal Nehru Urban Renewal Mission

8 Jawaharlal Nehru Rojgar Yojna

9.Rajiv Gandhi Shramik Kalyan Yojna;

10 Indira Gandhi Canal Project, Funded by World Bank

11.Rajiv Gandhi Shilpi Swasthya Bima Yojana

State schemes

1 Rajiv Gandhi Rehabilitation Package for Tsunami Affected Areas,

2.Rajiv Gandhi Social Security Scheme, Govt. of Puducherry

3Rajiv Ratna Awas Yojna;

4 Rajiv Gandhi Prathamik Shiksha Mission, Raigarh;

5 Rajiv Gandhi Shiksha Mission, Madhya Pradesh;

6 Rajiv Gandhi Mission on Food Security , Madhya Pradesh;

7. Rajiv Gandhi Mission on Community Health, Madhya Pradesh;

8 Rajiv Gandhi Rural Housing Corp.;

9 Rajiv Gandhi Tourism Development Mission, Rajasthan;

10 Rajiv Gandhi Computer Literacy Programme, Assam

11 Rajiv Gandhi Swavlamban Rojgar Yojana, Govt. of NCT of Delhi

12.Rajiv Gandhi Mobile Aids Counseling and Testing Services, Rajiv Gandhi
Foundation

13.Rajiv Gandhi Vidyarthi Suraksha Yojana, Maharashtra;

14 Rajiv Gandhi Mission for Water Shed Management, M.P.;

15Rajiv Gandhi Food Security Mission for Tribal Areas, MP

16.Rajiv Gandhi Home for Handicapped, Pondicherry;

17 Rajiv Gandhi Breakfast Scheme, Pondicherry;

18 Rajiv Gandhi Akshay Urja Divas, Punjab;

19 Rajiv Gandhi Artisans Health & Life Insurance Scheme, Tamil Nadu;

20 Rajiv Gandhi Zopadpatti and Nivara Prakalpa, Mumbai;

21 Rajiv Arogya Sri programme, Gujrat State Govt. Scheme;

22 Rajiv Gandhi Abhyudaya Yojana, AP;

23 Rajiv Gandhi Computer Saksharta Mission, Jabalpur

24 Rajiv Gandhi Bridges and Roads Infrastructure Development Programme;

25 Rajiv Gandhi Gramin Niwara Prakalp, Maharashtra Govt

26Indira Gandhi Utkrishtha Chhattervritti Yojna , HP;

27 Indira Gandhi Women Protection Scheme, Maharashtra Gov;

28.Indira Gandhi Prathisthan, Housing and Urban Planning Department, UP Govt

29.Indira Kranthi Patham Scheme, Andhra Pradesh ;

30Indira Gandhi Nahar Pariyojana, State Govt. Scheme;

31 Indira Gandhi Vruddha Bhumiheen Shetmajoor Anudan Yojana, Govt. of
Maharashtra

32.Indira Gandhi Nahar Project, Jaisalmer, Govt. of Rajasthan

33.Indira Gandhi Niradhar Yojna, Govt. of Maharashtra;

34 Indira Gandhi kuppam, State Govt. Welfare Scheme for Tsunami effected
fishermen;

35 Indira Gandhi Drinking Water Scheme-2006, Haryana Govt.

36.Indira Gandhi Niradhar Old, Landless, Destitute women farm labour Scheme,
Maharashtra Govt.

37.Indira Gandhi Women Protection Scheme , Maharashtra Govt.

38.Indira Gaon Ganga Yojana, Chattisgarh;

39 Indira Sahara Yojana , Chattisgarh;

40 Indira Soochna Shakti Yojana, Chattisgarh;

41 Indira Gandhi Balika Suraksha Yojana , HP;

42 Indira Gandhi Garibi Hatao Yojana (DPIP), MP;

43 Indira Gandhi super thermal power project , Haryana Govt.

44 Indira Gandhi Water Project, Haryana Govt.

45.Indira Gandhi Sagar Project, Bhandara District Gosikhurd Maharashtra;

46 Indira Jeevitha Bima Pathakam, AP Govt;

47 Indira Gandhi Priyadarshani Vivah Shagun Yojana, Haryana Govt;

48 Indira Mahila Yojana Scheme, Meghalaya Govt

49.Indira Gandhi Calf Rearing Scheme, Chhattisgarh Govt.

50.Indira Gandhi Priyadarshini Vivah Shagun Yojana, Haryana Govt.

51.Indira Gandhi Calf Rearing Scheme;

52 Indira Gandhi Landless Agriculture Labour scheme, Maharashtra Govt.

Sports/Tournaments/ Trophies

1.Rajiv Gandhi Gold Cup Kabaddi Tournament;

2 Rajiv Gandhi Sadbhavana Run;

3.Rajiv Gandhi Federation Cup boxing championship

4.Rajiv Gandhi International tournament (football)

5.NSCI - Rajiv Gandhi road races, New Delhi;

6. Rajiv Gandhi Boat Race, Kerala;

7Rajiv Gandhi International Artistic Gymnastic Tournament

8.Rajiv

[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Video Link for the Dharna in Delhi

2009-08-02 Thread Saju Varghese

I am new to this group. There are interesting discussions happening
and I thought I can share some of my thoughts on this. I find both
Ramanan and Anil's posts problematic. NAPM likes never raised or
looked at the issues of caste. When it comes to Dharnas and those who
participate in it, the affected people, the victims are mostly dalits.
And no one can deny that these communities are considered as merely
populations not just to manage but also to control. But what national
alliances do to small movements is dialluting the local needs. Even on
Land policy, how to have a national land policy, when each movements
have different needs. National alliance is a failed dream and Dharnas
only serve the purpose of a ritual, which needs to be reexamined.

In Ramanan's writing contiously or uncontiously the charecteristics of
neoliberal governance is reflected. What is the role of national
alliances in relation to small movements? Aren't they also playing a
management role? Why big movements like NBA have always been silent on
issues of gender and caste? How many dalits are there in NGO
management? Are leaders always chosen by people? Do people have a
choice? Are all these national leaders selected by people through some
democratic process? Is there any way to change them? I find it funny
when some one says this is what communities want.

What difference is there between the procedures of a national party
and a national alliance of people's movement? Whom do they represent?
The uppercaste feelings? The Brahmin Gandhigiri is proven failed even
for NBA. So why still preaching for that? There are other strategies
people are using today. Going to Delhi and doing a national Dharna may
help NAPM to keep itself alive. But I doubt if it helps people.

In changing times one needs to look at strategies. Particularly in
neoliberal times when state cannot be understood as a singular
government body. Do NAPM have a critique or understanding of caste and
other inequalities? Do they have a proper study of the changing roles
of governance? Also see how it is totally disfunctional and voiceless
in states like Kerala. Sorry if it hurts any one's feelings, but I
think it needs to be relooked.

Saju

On Jul 30, 7:04 pm, ANIL THARAYATH  wrote:
> Dear Ramanan
>
> I think the protest over there was on two issues
> 1) scrapping the land acquisition act
> 2) to get back to the other R&R act which was earlier drafted in
> consultation with the people's movements.
>
> "Victims" in this context are
>
> 1) People who are going to loose their land or have lost their land
> due to the land acquisition act
> 2) The people who have not been rehabilitated and not got their
> settlement till date.
>
> - Its not you and I who are voicing the opinions as related to
> people's movements its the people themseves. So mosquitoeings in fact
> is not a concern for them the issue is more than that. People stood in
> the rains and protested as the tents poured. People have the agenda in
> mind and they will fight for it. Please do not trivialise the larger
> issue to the issue of mosquito bite. As regarding to the leaders
> sleeping in the Jantar Mantar as far as I know most of the "educated"
> leaders did sleep at Jantar Mantar for your information. People have
> assessed their "educated" leaders and made them leaders  of each
> movement. So let them scrutinise their leaders.
>
> 3) My understanding of people coming to Delhi and do dharna is to show
> their voices in the so called "capital" of India so that they make
> their voice heard and visible in the "space" "alloted" to them. its
> not to reease their huper tensions..Now this allotment of spaces
> by the STATE for protest is by and large a particular agenda by the
> STATE to curb the voices of the people which will be anyway turned
> over by the people in the course of time due to the anti people's
> policies.
>
> - Any way the people's parliament anyway is not conceived in the way
> you have mentioned, I do not think it is perceived in the way you have
> mentioned. by the movements.
>
> 4) Good governance... its a nice term nation building even nicer but I
> think it will be bitter for these people.
>
> On Jul 30, 3:13 pm, Ramanan KP  wrote:
>
>
>
> > > However i refuse to agree all the points you mentioned above.
>
> > i think we have many agreements than disagreements> Ill just raise some 
> > questions will perhaps respond later.
>
> > > 1) Peaceful events can be good for the spectators but what for the
> > > victims?
> > whose victims?
> > > 2) For the spectators what would be the issue, as you pointed out
> > > mosquitoes was an important issue for you
>
> > mosquitoes are also issue for all. Do you mean to say that village
> > people have thick skin than yours or mine? nobody likes mosquito bites
> > and rain including you and me. may be some people, but i dont know any
> > such people. i dont think any educated leaders will sleep in jentar
> > mantar. the place needs to be cleaned and saniti

[GreenYouth] Fwd: [humanrights-movement:1885] Re: In name the of SIMI

2009-08-02 Thread Venugopalan K M

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Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 9:34 AM
Subject: In name the of SIMI

In the Name of SIMI



Ram Puniyani



In third week of July (2009) Maharashtra police arrested several
Muslims in Pusad, Akola and neighboring regions on the charge that
they are reviving SIMI under a new name. It is after a fairly long
time that one has heard of arrests in the name of SIMI. The earlier
cycle of arrest of Muslim youth which was a matter of routine after
every blast, Malegaon, Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad, Jaipur and other
places was broken with the impeccable proof of Sadhvi Pragya Singh
Thakur’s motor cycle being found in Malegaon. The trace of motorcycle
link led to Swami Dayanand Pandey, Lt Col Shrikant Purohit and many
others associated with Hindu right wing organizations, offshoots of or
inspired by RSS ideology.



Society witnessed that after most of the blasts so far, Muslim youth
were arrested on the charge of being behind the blasts, were harassed
for months and then released for the lack of evidence. This was more
or less a routine pattern and it frightened the whole Muslim community
to no end. Many a Muslim youths’ careers were crushed due to these
reckless and baseless arrests. Many a minority families under went
severe problems, were ostracized from their own community once they
were dragged into the net on the charges which were guided more by the
prevalent biases or stereotypes than any substance. SIMI came to be
regarded as the core organization responsible for fomenting trouble
through youth. Despite the ban on SIMI in 2001, the Muslim youth kept
on being labeled as SIMI activists and were put behind the bar.



It’s not to say that SIMI was holding ideology which was talking of
democracy and secularism. One knows that SIMI, which began as a
student front of Jamat-e-Islami Hind gradually, came out of its
control and became radical in the decade of 1990s in particular.
Yoginder Sikand, an Islamic scholar of repute gives a very crisp
history of this organization
(/www.countercurrents.org/comm-sikand150706.htm). SIMI was founded on
the ideology propounded by Maulana Maududi, according to whom all non
Muslims are kafirs and man made systems like democracy are false and
Shariah is the only way. It kept the goal of spreading Islamic
consciousness amongst Muslim students and peaceful missionary work
amongst non Muslims. Some events in the decade of 1990 were to shape
its ideology in a radical and militant direction. These events were
Soviet Russia’s invasion of Afghanistan and Islamization of Pakistan
in particular.



Meanwhile Jamat- e- Islami came to accept democracy and Secularism as
its guiding ideology. SIMI came out from the control of its parent
organization to talk in a different language. The demolition of Babri
Mosque and the post demolition violence gave it a fillip in the
negative direction. It said that Democracy has failed to protect
Muslims so there is a need for some one like Mohammed Gazni, the
destroyer of Somanth. This was also the theme of the poster released
by them in the aftermath of Babri demolition. It was alleged that SIMI
has links with Sikh and Kashmiri militants. It was alleged that they
have links with Osama and ISI. At the same time SIMI claimed that it
wants to work through peaceful methods, while the worsening communal
situation made it to say that Muslims are a belabored community. Under
these circumstances SIMI was banned in 2001.



The ban on SIMI was challenged, so a tribunal had to be appointed to
review the ban. Ajit Sahi of Tehelka in his painstaking investigation,
followed the tribunal’s sitting all through (Tehelka, SIMI Fictions,
12th August 2008), the tribunal did not find any evidence of the
charges put against the organization for banning it. The ban could not
be upheld. About this investigation Ajit Sahi said, “… his
investigation is no dry story rising from lifeless court documents. It
has been an emotional rollercoaster to sit across young boys barely
into manhood, their foreheads creased by sleepless nights worried
stiff over the jailing of a father, a brother, wondering endlessly,
“Will this end? Is this for real? What do I do now? Where do I go now?
Will I survive this?” He further says “as I interviewed countless
Muslims, so weathered, I couldn’t but ask myself, What if this was me?
What if it was my brother, my father in jail?”



With the World scenario tilting against the Islam and Muslims,
courtesy the radical Islamists trained in the Madrassas set up in
Pakistan with US aid, the popular psyche perceived an average Muslim
as a terrorist and police machinery operated on this understanding.
Even when scores of lives were shattered and the community came under
the intimidation of highest ord

[GreenYouth] Fwd: A very moving blog post by a young butch on her relationship with her father

2009-08-02 Thread Venugopalan K M

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From: Sanjukta Basu 
Date: Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Subject: A very moving blog post by a young butch on her relationship
with her  father
To:


Original article here -
http://thefreezingflames.blogspot.com/2009/08/gender-blender-my-fathers-son.html

Sunday, August 2, 2009

Gender Blender: My Father's Son

At home I am simply me - genderless, in a way. Perhaps genderless is
what I would like to ideally be. My gender doesn't matter when I'm
with my family or my closest friends. Only outdoors do consciousness
and fears of gender presentation strike.

I realize that I have not talked much about my father. My Dad is a
calm, quiet man. He is a caring father and quite a good cook. I shall
relate to you a few incidents involving him, me and my gender.


Image source

While I still lived at home, both of us used go together to the local
barber shop for haircuts. Around two years ago in Kolkata, our old
barber shut down his shop for some reason and we had to find a new
one. The new barber, as he cut my hair, asked Dad whether I was his
boy. He said that yes, I was his son.

I was angry.

That was two years ago. I have changed a lot since. Those days I was
struggling hard with my gender identity. I hated being stared at (I
still do) and I felt that it could get worse if they were told that I
was a boy only to find out later that I was not.

I expressed my anger to Dad. He agreed not to do it again but also
said that it was no big deal.

More recently in March '09 when I was in Delhi on vacation something
else happened. I bought my music player at a shop in Nehru Place I
generally buy blank DVDs from. The shopkeeper had always taken me to
be a boy and I had never told him otherwise. I get called "Bhaiya"
("Brother") or "Sir" about fifteen times a day so I don't bother
correcting anyone anymore.

Dad had come along with me this time. While I compared different music
players, the shopkeeper struck up a conversation with him. He got
quite confused because Dad was using female pronouns to refer to me.

Once we exited the shop, I made a request similar to the one that I
had made to Mom a week earlier in Palika Bazaar. I asked him not to
use female pronouns for me in public. He nodded in agreement.

At the next shop, upon being asked by a friendly shopkeeper whether I
was his son, he replied, "Yes."

Cut to April 5, '09, on my way back to Kota from Delhi. Dad and I
shared a train compartment with another family. Their son was also
going to Kota. Since I look like a 13 year old boy, they were amazed
when I said that I was in fact an year senior to their son (who looked
quite like a man). The mother spoke to my Dad along the lines of,
"..aapka beta.." ("..your son.."). My Dad honored my earlier request
and did not question their perception of my gender. But this time, I
interrupted to say that I wasn't a boy. They were quite surprised at
this proclamation but Dad's face was inscrutable.

I came out because I did not want awkwardness later during the trip
and it was a wise move because the mother got quite chatty with us,
asking me all sorts of questions about student life in Kota. But how
had my Dad felt, then, about my contradictory words and actions? I
don't know.

Poor man, he must be so confused.

I don't want this confusion for him. I deal with it enough everyday to
know how awful it is. I have no idea what he thinks of it. We don't
talk about it. In fact, these days we don't talk much at all.

I wish I could protect him from the mess my gender identity is. I wish
he would understand what I'm going through. Maybe he does. Maybe...



When I was little enough to fit wholly on the window sill, I would
climb and sit there, staring at the road awaiting his return from
work. Mom would try to bring me down and fail. When he would finally
return, I would jump up in his arms and kiss him. I would take his
helmet and put it on my little head. I would wear his shirt and prance
around the house - a little boy who wanted to grow up in his father's
shoes.

We would go on evening strolls. We would play on the swings, slides
and see-saw in the park. He would hold me at night, tell me stories
and lull me to sleep. Sometimes, I want to go back to those times.

Then he was promoted and suddenly we didn't have as much time together anymore.

Meanwhile, my mother's health deteriorated and all our attention was
diverted to her. He had to manage everything all by himself (and he
did a very good job of it). Our connection was lost between his busy
schedule and Mom's delicate health, during my tween years. This was
around the time I went in denial.

I have since grown up and we have grown apart.

In public spheres, am I his daughter or am I his son? My tomboyishness
has evolved into this dapper masculinity, a gender deviance. It is
hard to classify. It is difficult to understand.

Maybe someday we will sit down and talk about these things. Maybe
someday we will laugh about it. Maybe someday I can pro

[GreenYouth] Re: ITMissi on advt: വലതു കൈയില ്‍ മറുകുള്ള ഇടതു കൈയില്‍ ആറു വിരലു ള്ളവര്‍ മാത്രം അപ േക്ഷിക്കുക

2009-08-02 Thread ranju radha
"and he knows India."

WHo? Nandan nilkeni?
are u joking?

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[GreenYouth] Fish workers plan stir against pact

2009-08-02 Thread T Peter
*Fish workers plan stir against pact *

*Date:02/08/2009* *URL:
http://www.thehindu.com/2009/08/02/stories/2009080257320200.htm*
Special Correspondent

   Thiruvananthapuram: The National Fish Workers Forum (NFF) and the Kerala
Swathantra Matsya Thozhilali Federation (KSMTF) have threatened to launch a
nation-wide agitation against the move by the Union government to sign a
free trade agreement with ASEAN (Association of South East Asian Nations).

Addressing a press conference here on Saturday, State president of KSMTF T.
Peter and secretary Anto Elias said efforts were on to mobilise the
fisheries and agricultural sectors for a sustained agitation against the
trade pact. In a memorandum submitted to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and
UPA convenor Sonia Gandhi, NFF and KSMTF urged them to drop the move to
enter into a free trade agreement.

They said the proposed pact would lead to the collapse of the fisheries and
agricultural sectors in India.

“Cheap imports of fish and agricultural produce will flood the country,
threatening the livelihood of fish workers and farmers.”

Mr. Peter said the government had failed to implement the recommendation of
the Murari committee to ban the operation of foreign trawlers in territorial
waters. “It has also failed to honour the commitment to write off loans
availed by fish workers and reduce the tax on fishing equipment. In this
context, the FTA comes as a heavy blow. It will worsen the crisis faced by
the fisheries sector.” He said the pact would enable countries like Thailand
and Vietnam to dump 177 species of fish in the Indian market. “Fresh catch
of anchovy, lobster, crab, sardine, mackerel, shark, shrimp and squid will
be replaced by refrigerated imports, spelling doom for traditional fish
workers in the State. Fishing equipment is also likely to be imported.” The
contention that some species had been included in the negative list was of
no significance if the FTA was signed.

http://www.keralafishworkers.org

http://www.alakal.net

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[GreenYouth] Re: ITMissi on advt: വലതു കൈയില ്‍ മറുകുള്ള ഇടതു കൈയില്‍ ആറു വിരലു ള്ളവര്‍ മാത്രം അപ േക്ഷിക്കുക

2009-08-02 Thread Santhosh Kumar
Well said, Mr Ramanan.
If People equals CPI(M) cadre in Kerala, experts and resource persons can
only mean half baked intellectual pretenders in  CPI(M) and KSSP as all saw
during Janakeeyasuthranam (People's Plan Campaign). The creation and
appointment of specific positions for party and KSSP people used to happen
earlier too, but never used experience in Party led, KSSP specific
programmes as a criteria for Govt. appointments so openly. This is what
called Transparency in Governance as taught in KILA.

The Gender Budget Institute announced in the first budget of Mr. Thomas
Issac is not yet established because his would be appointees are not yet
finished acquiring required qualifications. Once they have, we will sure to
have that institute too proxy controlled by him and CPI(M) intellectuals.

Now a circular should be send to all universities advising students that
apart from their academic studies at least they should be either become SFI
or KSSP members to get jobs in Kerala Govt. service.



2009/8/2 Ramanan KP 

> whatever the left goverment do is a problem. If congress takes some
> person without advertisement nobody questions it. In qualifications it
> says qualifications may be relaxed for outstanding candidates. All
> managerial posts advertisements look for experienced people. After
> all, it is about merit of the person who applies. Nothing is finaised.
> If the party has to take party people, party didnot have to do this
> public adverstisement. Before making conclusions read the
> advertisement carefully. Also look at other international standard
> managerial advertisements. All IT firms also take only experienced
> people to head it. Why the Governement took Nandan Nilekani to head
> the Identity card project? Becaue he has been in managerial positions
> before and he knows India.
>
> Experience and age makes difference in performance
>
> regard
> Ramanan KP
>
>
> 2009/8/1 Anivar Aravind :
> > അറ്റാച്ചു ചെയ്ത പരസ്യം  നോക്കൂ
> >
> > അശ്വമേധം കളിക്കാനുള്ള ചോദ്യങ്ങളാണോന്നു സംശയം.
> >
> > പരസ്യം  കണ്ടാലേ ആളെപ്പറയാം  :-)
> >
> >  Qualifications need for ICFOSS director post
> >
> > 1. PHD in Computer science/engineering/technology  (പി എച്ച് ഡി
> > ടെക്നോളജിയില്‍ തന്നെ വേണം. മറ്റു ഫ്രീ സോഫ്റ്റ്‌വെയര്‍ കക്ഷികളെല്ലാം
> > ഔട്ട്  )
> > 2. 10 year experience in teaching / industry/ research (ടീച്ചിങ്ങു
> > തന്നെയെന്നേ , ബാക്കിയൊക്കെ വെറുതെ ) out of which 3 year in the level
> > of professor in any university (കണ്ടില്ലേ പോക്ക്  ) or equivalent
> > senior executive in corporate sector, with specific involvement in
> > FOSS Sector (ഇതെന്താ യൂണിവേഴ്സിറ്റി പ്രൊഫസര്‍ക്ക് തുല്യമായ
> > കോര്‍പ്പറേറ്റ് സീനിയര്‍ എക്സിക്യുട്ടീവ് .. ഓ ഒരു രസത്തിനു
> > കിടക്കട്ടേന്ന് )
> > 3. First hand experience in handling , promoting & training graduates
> > in Open source Operating systems  & a variety of application software
> > (ടീച്ചറു തന്നെഡേയ് .. അതും ഓപ്പറേറ്റിങ്ങ് സിസ്റ്റം ഉപയോഗിക്കല്‍ തൊട്ടു
> > പഠിപ്പിച്ചിരിക്കണം . ഇനി പിഎച്ച്ഡി ഉള്ള കോര്‍പ്പറേറ്റ്
> > പുല്ലന്‍മാരുണ്ടെങ്കില്‍ അവര്‍ക്കു വേണ്ട അപ്പ്ലിക്കേഷനുകളേ പഠിപ്പിച്ചു
> > കാണൂ. അല്ലേലും സീനിയര്‍ എക്സിക്യുട്ടീവുമാര്‍ക്ക് പിള്ളേരെ
> > പഠിപ്പിക്കലാണോ പണി )
> >
> > 4. AGE  : 35 -50 as of 1-12-2009
> >
> > ഇതാണിവിടുത്തെ  പ്രധാന തമാശ
> >
> > 5. The Director
> >
> >
> > GNU/Linux is spreading in india Mainly after  1998 . But users become
> > aware about the freedoms & Free Software movement by  2000-2001
> > onwards
> >
> > In this context 2nd point is rubbish if you are looking at people from
> > India.  If you are looking at average age of Indian Free Software
> > Contributors , it is below 30 - Age limits clearly filter  them .
> > Academic Qualification of most of them varying between B.Tech/ MS/PhD
> > Registration . So requirement of PHD filter  all of them .
> >
> > ഇനി അടുത്ത തമാശ
> >
> > Other Detail section says :  Director will be in charge of
> > identifying, dissemenating , promoting and updating information on
> > open source operating systems and software for managaing associated
> > human resources
> > --
> >
> > Do we need a centre for this ?
> >
> > And Job Description is all about foss community & Foss Promting
> > institution linkages
> >
> > I believe We, FOSS Community in India/ Kerala (which is very plural)
> > does not need a Center working as our Umbrella , granted by the state
> > & reportable to IT Secy.
> >
> > Usually FOSS community works in a peer to peer model/ Bottom up model.
> > If state decides to create an umbrella for them, which not at all
> > related / representation of FOSS Community it will only result in
> > creation of dead structures (like we already seen on
> > Janakeeyasuthranam) coming in the banner of FOSS user community
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > ഇനിയും അശ്വമേധത്തിനുത്തരം കിട്ടിയില്ലേ
> >
> > എന്നാല്‍ ഒരു ക്ലൂ കൂടി തരാം.  കണ്ണൂര്‍ യൂണിവേഴ്സിറ്റിയില്‍
> > അധ്യാപകനായിരുന്ന , 3 വര്‍ഷത്തിനു മുന്‍പ് കുസാറ്റില്‍ പ്രൊഫസര്‍
> > റാങ്കോടെ പാര്‍ട്ടി സ്വാധീനത്തില്‍ തിരിച്ചെത്തിയ ഒരു കമ്പ്യൂട്ടര്‍
> > സയന്‍സ് പ്രൊഫസറായ കുസാറ്റില്‍ നടന്ന

[GreenYouth] Re: ITMissi on advt: വലതു കൈയില ്‍ മറുകുള്ള ഇടതു കൈയില്‍ ആറു വിരലു ള്ളവര്‍ മാത്രം അപ േക്ഷിക്കുക

2009-08-02 Thread Ramanan KP
whatever the left goverment do is a problem. If congress takes some
person without advertisement nobody questions it. In qualifications it
says qualifications may be relaxed for outstanding candidates. All
managerial posts advertisements look for experienced people. After
all, it is about merit of the person who applies. Nothing is finaised.
If the party has to take party people, party didnot have to do this
public adverstisement. Before making conclusions read the
advertisement carefully. Also look at other international standard
managerial advertisements. All IT firms also take only experienced
people to head it. Why the Governement took Nandan Nilekani to head
the Identity card project? Becaue he has been in managerial positions
before and he knows India.

Experience and age makes difference in performance

regard
Ramanan KP


2009/8/1 Anivar Aravind :
> അറ്റാച്ചു ചെയ്ത പരസ്യം  നോക്കൂ
>
> അശ്വമേധം കളിക്കാനുള്ള ചോദ്യങ്ങളാണോന്നു സംശയം.
>
> പരസ്യം  കണ്ടാലേ ആളെപ്പറയാം  :-)
>
>  Qualifications need for ICFOSS director post
>
> 1. PHD in Computer science/engineering/technology  (പി എച്ച് ഡി
> ടെക്നോളജിയില്‍ തന്നെ വേണം. മറ്റു ഫ്രീ സോഫ്റ്റ്‌വെയര്‍ കക്ഷികളെല്ലാം
> ഔട്ട്  )
> 2. 10 year experience in teaching / industry/ research (ടീച്ചിങ്ങു
> തന്നെയെന്നേ , ബാക്കിയൊക്കെ വെറുതെ ) out of which 3 year in the level
> of professor in any university (കണ്ടില്ലേ പോക്ക്  ) or equivalent
> senior executive in corporate sector, with specific involvement in
> FOSS Sector (ഇതെന്താ യൂണിവേഴ്സിറ്റി പ്രൊഫസര്‍ക്ക് തുല്യമായ
> കോര്‍പ്പറേറ്റ് സീനിയര്‍ എക്സിക്യുട്ടീവ് .. ഓ ഒരു രസത്തിനു
> കിടക്കട്ടേന്ന് )
> 3. First hand experience in handling , promoting & training graduates
> in Open source Operating systems  & a variety of application software
> (ടീച്ചറു തന്നെഡേയ് .. അതും ഓപ്പറേറ്റിങ്ങ് സിസ്റ്റം ഉപയോഗിക്കല്‍ തൊട്ടു
> പഠിപ്പിച്ചിരിക്കണം . ഇനി പിഎച്ച്ഡി ഉള്ള കോര്‍പ്പറേറ്റ്
> പുല്ലന്‍മാരുണ്ടെങ്കില്‍ അവര്‍ക്കു വേണ്ട അപ്പ്ലിക്കേഷനുകളേ പഠിപ്പിച്ചു
> കാണൂ. അല്ലേലും സീനിയര്‍ എക്സിക്യുട്ടീവുമാര്‍ക്ക് പിള്ളേരെ
> പഠിപ്പിക്കലാണോ പണി )
>
> 4. AGE  : 35 -50 as of 1-12-2009
>
> ഇതാണിവിടുത്തെ  പ്രധാന തമാശ
>
> 5. The Director
>
>
> GNU/Linux is spreading in india Mainly after  1998 . But users become
> aware about the freedoms & Free Software movement by  2000-2001
> onwards
>
> In this context 2nd point is rubbish if you are looking at people from
> India.  If you are looking at average age of Indian Free Software
> Contributors , it is below 30 - Age limits clearly filter  them .
> Academic Qualification of most of them varying between B.Tech/ MS/PhD
> Registration . So requirement of PHD filter  all of them .
>
> ഇനി അടുത്ത തമാശ
>
> Other Detail section says :  Director will be in charge of
> identifying, dissemenating , promoting and updating information on
> open source operating systems and software for managaing associated
> human resources
> --
>
> Do we need a centre for this ?
>
> And Job Description is all about foss community & Foss Promting
> institution linkages
>
> I believe We, FOSS Community in India/ Kerala (which is very plural)
> does not need a Center working as our Umbrella , granted by the state
> & reportable to IT Secy.
>
> Usually FOSS community works in a peer to peer model/ Bottom up model.
> If state decides to create an umbrella for them, which not at all
> related / representation of FOSS Community it will only result in
> creation of dead structures (like we already seen on
> Janakeeyasuthranam) coming in the banner of FOSS user community
>
>
>
> --
>
> ഇനിയും അശ്വമേധത്തിനുത്തരം കിട്ടിയില്ലേ
>
> എന്നാല്‍ ഒരു ക്ലൂ കൂടി തരാം.  കണ്ണൂര്‍ യൂണിവേഴ്സിറ്റിയില്‍
> അധ്യാപകനായിരുന്ന , 3 വര്‍ഷത്തിനു മുന്‍പ് കുസാറ്റില്‍ പ്രൊഫസര്‍
> റാങ്കോടെ പാര്‍ട്ടി സ്വാധീനത്തില്‍ തിരിച്ചെത്തിയ ഒരു കമ്പ്യൂട്ടര്‍
> സയന്‍സ് പ്രൊഫസറായ കുസാറ്റില്‍ നടന്ന ഫ്രീ സോഫ്റ്റ്‌വെയര്‍
> കോണ്‍ഫറന്‍സിന്റെ നടത്തിപ്പുകാരിലൊരാളായിരുന്ന ഇദ്ദേഹത്തെ പരിചയമുണ്ടോ ?
>
>
> വലതു കൈയില്‍ മറുകുള്ള  ഇടതു കൈയില്‍ ആറു വിരലുള്ള ആളുകള്‍ മാത്രം അപേക്ഷിക്കുക
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> "The resources of the world are for us all to share. Let us affirm our
> faith in that common cause" - Dr. Ilina Sen
>
>
>
> --
> "The resources of the world are for us all to share. Let us affirm our
> faith in that common cause" - Dr. Ilina Sen
>
>
>
> --
> "The resources of the world are for us all to share. Let us affirm our
> faith in that common cause" - Dr. Ilina Sen
>
>
> >
>

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