Re: [gmx-users] question about Computational Electrophysiology

2014-07-05 Thread Carsten Kutzner
Dear Tom,

the functionality of the Computational Electrophysiology module
rests on exchanging ions from one compartment with water molecules from 
the other compartment, if the ion concentration deviates
from the specified value. 

Keeping (also) the number of water molecules constant in the compartments
would mean to take water molecules from one compartment and somehow
insert them into suitable spaces found in the other compartment.
This is not implemented (and also not straightforward to do, although
it could probably be done…)

Best,
  Carsten


On 04 Jul 2014, at 17:40, Tom  wrote:

> Dear GMX developers,
> 
> The functionality of version of 5.0 about "Computational Electrophysiology"
> looks nice.
> 
> Ions concentration can be maintaied to a fixed value.
> There are options for controlling ion concentration in each compartment.
> 
> I am wondering if water (or solvent) concentration can be kept as
> a constant also?
> 
> Thanks a lot for the help!
> 
> Thoms
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Re: [gmx-users] Invalid order for directive atomtypes

2014-07-05 Thread Albert

HI Mark:

thanks a lot for comments.

I just played  around   and I noticed that I noticed that there is some 
invisible character inside the ligand.itp. After remove them by command 
dos2unix, and it works now.


thx


On 07/05/2014 08:54 AM, Mark Abraham wrote:

A different problem can happen; the same problem can't. But we don't know
what the messages were, or the link you followed, so we're stuck. Perhaps
you can learn about directive order in 5.7.1 of the manual - you cannot
ever have [atomtypes] after [molecules], even if they're in .itp files.

Mark



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Re: [gmx-users] Use trjconv in parallel

2014-07-05 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Stephane,

Depending on what you want to do, it may be possible to split your
trajectory into frames (e.g. on /dev/shm) and process those in parallel,
joining the results into a new trajectory. You can contact me if you want a
python script for splitting an XTC file into frames.

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:15 PM, ABEL Stephane 175950 
wrote:

> Thanks for your quick and also fast (;)) reply, Carsten.
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 10:55:45 +
> From: ABEL Stephane 175950 
> To: "gromacs.org_gmx-users@maillist.sys.kth.se"
> 
> Subject: [gmx-users] Use trjconv in parallel,
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hello,
>
> in short : it is possible ? I use the gromacs v4.6.5.
>
> Thanks
>
> St?phane
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 13:44:08 +0200
> From: Carsten Kutzner 
> To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Use trjconv in parallel,
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>
> On 02 Jul 2014, at 12:55, ABEL Stephane 175950 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > in short : it is possible ? I use the gromacs v4.6.5.
> No.
>
> Carsten
> >
> > Thanks
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 07:50:34 -0400
> From: Justin Lemkul 
> To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] grompp does not find atomtype
> Message-ID: <53b3f20a.7060...@vt.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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> On 7/2/14, 4:40 AM, Dawid das wrote:
> > I have managed to deal with this problem in following way:
> >
> > In topology file some bonding parameters were actually missing but some
> > bonding parameters were not needed, e.g. U-B or dihedral parameters for
> > atoms which are not connected, that is they belong to different parts of
> my
> > new residue.
> > I found parameters for the missing ones and hashed (;) them out. Is it
> what
> > I can do? Like I say, theses bonding parameters that I hashed out were
> for
> > atom types which are not connected directly.
> >
> > Then I performed minimization with steepest descent and in output file I
> > got:
> >
> >   4655e+05 Fmax= 6.53501e+03, atom= 1003^MStep=  426, Dmax= 2.5e-06 nm,
> > Epot= -4.54655e+05 Fmax= 9.45125e+03, atom= 1003^MStep=  427, Dmax=
> 1.2e-06
> > nm, Epot= -4.54655e+05 Fmax= 1.25724e+04, atom= 1003^M
> > Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
> > Converged to machine precision,
> > but not to the requested precision Fmax < 1000
> >
> > Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
> > You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
> > off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)
> >
> > writing lowest energy coordinates.
> >
> > Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 428 steps,
> > but did not reach the requested Fmax < 1000.
> > Potential Energy  = -4.5465475e+05
> > Maximum force =  1.7057922e+04 on atom 1003
> > Norm of force =  1.1677969e+02
> >
> > But I continued with NVT MD simulation. This is my nvt-md.mdp file:
> >
> > title   = NVT MD
> > integrator  = md
> > constraints = all-bonds
> > dt  = 0.001
> > nsteps  = 2
> > nstenergy   = 100
> > nstlist = 10
> > nstxout = 1000
> > nstvout = 1000
> > nstfout = 0
> > nstlog  = 100
> > nstxtcout   = 1000
> > xtcprecision= 500
> > ns_type = grid
> > coulombtype = PME
> > rlist   = 1.0
> > rcoulomb= 1.0
> > rvdw= 1.0
>
> These cutoffs are incorrect for using CHARMM force fields.  See previous
> posts
> on proper settings.
>
> > tcoupl  = nose-hoover
> > tc-grps = Protein SOL NA
> > tau_t   = 0.1 0.1 0.1 ;(3 numbers -> because 3 tc-grps)
> > ref_t   = 100 100 100 ;(3 numbers -> because 3 tc-grps)
>
> Coupling water and ions separately is not sensible.
>
> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Thermostats#What_Not_To_Do
>
> > Pcoupl  = No
> > gen_vel = yes
> > gen_temp= 100
> > gen_seed= 173529
> > energygrps  = Protein  SOL NA
> > constraint_algorithm = LINCS
> > pbc = xyz
> >
> > And in my NVT output I got error for LINCS:
> >
> > relative const

Re: [gmx-users] What analysis do I need?

2014-07-05 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/5/14, 6:18 AM, Batdorj Batsaikhan wrote:

Dear all,




I am new user, and I want to analyze conformation change of protein using MD. 
If you do not mind give me advice.

What analysis do I need?


That depends on what you define as "conformational change" - is it on the 
secondary or tertiary level?



How to use do_dssp?



Install the DSSP program, then read the manual.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Minimisation failure: The charge group moved more than the distance allowed by the domain decomposition

2014-07-05 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/4/14, 5:54 AM, Vytautas Rakeviius wrote:

Here all my files:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/94u9b9stsk84ckz/1oyn6wat1994-15a_vconf-docking_1.tar.bz2


I try minimize this with:

grompp_mpi_d -maxwarn 2 -f ~/emamber.mdp -c *_solvated_bonded_GMX.gro -p 
*_solvated_bonded_GMX.top -o em.tpr
mdrun_mpi_d -deffnm em


Here is my emamber.mdp file: http://pastebin.com/vtiuCzt0
Here is my full error: http://pastebin.com/zX57DnQf

I would be thankful for help.



Either the starting coordinates contain bad clashes or the topology is unstable. 
 The initial force is not insanely high, but often CG doesn't work well as the 
initial minimization.  Start with steepest descents and then do CG after steep 
has converged reasonably.  Otherwise, also note that mdrun tells you the exact 
atom number that's having a problem; start by visualizing what's going on in its 
surroundings.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] confout.gro

2014-07-05 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/5/14, 12:51 AM, RINU KHATTRI wrote:

hello gromacs users
but i am confussed if confout.gro is input, in which step it is formed
according to tutorial before this step the step is
perl inflategro.pl system.gro 4 POPC 0 system_inflated.gro 5 area.dat
is system_inflated.gro is confout.gro or which gro file i must be used
as confout.gro

perl inflategro.pl confout.gro 0.95 POPC 0 system_shrink1.gro 5
area_shrink1.dat


The file "confout.gro" is the default name of the final output coordinates of an 
mdrun process, unless you provide a different file name to mdrun -c.  In this 
case, the protocol is:


1. Inflate the system (produce system_inflated.gro)
2. Minimize the inflated system (produce confout.gro, unless otherwise named)
3. Begin shrinking the system, starting with the output of step 2.

So "confout.gro" is the _output_ of step 2 and the _input_ of step 3.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] regarding group selection in output

2014-07-05 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/4/14, 12:57 AM, RINU KHATTRI wrote:

hello every one now i am in

trjconv -s em.tpr -f dppc128.gro -o dppc128_whole.gro -pbc mol -ur compact

this command but in out put they are asking

Will write gro: Coordinate file in Gromos-87 format
Reading file em.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (single precision)
Reading file em.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (single precision)
Select group for output
Group 0 ( System) has 14036 elements
Group 1 (  Other) has  6656 elements
Group 2 (   POPC) has  6656 elements
Group 3 (  Water) has  7380 elements
Group 4 (SOL) has  7380 elements
Group 5 (  non-Water) has  6656 elements

  i am unable to understand which group to select

is this command is ok or i have to use set of command to center or
jump the ligand



The command appears to be the same as in my membrane protein tutorial, so I'm 
assuming you're doing the same thing (although you're not working with the 
tutorial because trjconv says you have POPC, not DPPC, as the command 
indicates).  Regardless, if you're preparing the system, you should be saving 
the entire system.  Only saving a subset of atoms is most common for 
post-processing after a simulation.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] What analysis do I need?

2014-07-05 Thread Batdorj Batsaikhan
Dear all,




I am new user, and I want to analyze conformation change of protein using MD. 
If you do not mind give me advice. 

What analysis do I need? 
How to use do_dssp?

Thank you.

Batsaikhan
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Re: [gmx-users] gromacs.org_gmx-users Digest, Vol 123, Issue 29

2014-07-05 Thread Mark Abraham
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Tom  wrote:

> Hi Mark
>
> Thanks a lot for your information!
> I used the newest version to compile and will have not such report about
>

Newest version of what?


> mathcing of
> Acceleration and hardware".


Well, that's a start...


> But the performace is still the same as before.
>

Then you might be doing the same thing as before, such as running the wrong
mdrun.


> It is slow.
> about 37% peformance on Cray...
>

Compared to what?

I did use gcc to compile but am using cray-mpich. I am wondering if
> cray-mpich causes
> the low performance. Or i need to change some options in the installation.
>

I would think not, but until you follow Justin's suggestion of sharing some
complete log files (e.g. on a file-sharing service, not as email
attachments) nobody can do anything. We also need to see .mdp files and a
molecular description of the system.


>
> The following is the detail about the installation
> --
> CC=gcc FC=ifort F77=ifort CXX=icpc
>

This is not your problem, but you should not generally mix compilers from
different vendors, and definitely not mix C and C++ compilers.

Mark

CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/opt/cray/modulefiles/cray-mpich/6.3.0
> cmake .. -DGMX_BUILD_OWN_FFTW=ON -DGMX_GPU=OFF -DGMX_MPI=ON
> -DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS=off -DCMAKE_SKIP_RPATH=ON
> -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=~/App/GROMACS
> make F77=gfortran
> make install
> --
> This is the bash_profile:
> -
> module swap PrgEnv-pgi PrgEnv-gnu
> module load cmake
> export PATH=/home/test/App/GROMACS/bin:$PATH
> -
>
> Thanks agin for all the help!
>
> Thom
>
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:29:07 +0200
> > From: Mark Abraham 
> > To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
> > Cc: Discussion list for GROMACS users
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] help with poor performance on gromacs on Cray
> > linux
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> > camnumasdp4g2hf9lcjwxofzygerg3idz+ag45vgpvwlouni...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Tom  wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Mark,
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for your kind help!
> > > I notice this on the head of *log file.
> > > It is saying "
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *Binary not matching hardware - you might be losing
> > > performance.Acceleration most likely to fit this hardware:
> > > AVX_128_FMAAcceleration selected at GROMACS compile time: SSE2*I
> compiled
> > > the gmx *tpr on the local machine and sent to the cluster.
> > >
> >
> > That's about a factor of three you're losing. Compile for your target,
> like
> > the message says.
> >
> >
> > > Please help take a look the following *log file:
> > >
> > >
> >
> -
> > >
> > > Log file opened on Tue Jun 17 16:13:17 2014
> > > Host: nid02116  pid: 22133  nodeid: 0  nnodes:  80
> > > Gromacs version:VERSION 4.6.5
> > > Precision:  single
> > > Memory model:   64 bit
> > > MPI library:MPI
> > > OpenMP support: enabled
> > > GPU support:disabled
> > > invsqrt routine:gmx_software_invsqrt(x)
> > > CPU acceleration:   SSE2
> > > FFT library:fftw-3.3.2-sse2
> > > Large file support: enabled
> > > RDTSCP usage:   enabled
> > > Built on:   Tue Jun 17 13:20:08 EDT 2014
> > > Built by:   @***-ext5 [CMAKE]
> > > Build OS/arch:  Linux 2.6.32.59-0.7.2-default x86_64
> > > Build CPU vendor:   AuthenticAMD
> > > Build CPU brand:AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6140
> > > Build CPU family:   16   Model: 9   Stepping: 1
> > > Build CPU features: apic clfsh cmov cx8 cx16 htt lahf_lm misalignsse
> mmx
> > > msr nonstop_tsc pdpe1gb popcnt pse rdtscp sse2 sse3 sse4a
> > > C compiler: /opt/cray/xt-asyncpe/5.26/bin/cc GNU
> > > /opt/cray/xt-asyncpe/5.26/bin/cc: INFO: Compiling with
> > > CRAYPE_COMPILE_TARGET=native.
> > >
> >
> > As discussed, the Cray compilers do not do as good a job as the
> > Cray-provided gcc or icc compilers. Use those.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > C compiler flags:   -msse2-Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers
> > > -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wno-unused -Wunused-value
> -Wno-unused-parameter
> > > -Wno-array-bounds -Wno-maybe-uninitialized -Wno-strict-overflow
> > > -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-all-loops -fexcess-precision=fast  -O3
> > > -DNDEBUG
> > > 
> > >
> > > Initializing Domain Decomposition on 80 nodes
> > > Dynamic load balancing: auto
> > > Will sort the charge groups at every domain (re)decomposition
> > >
> > > NOTE: Periodic molecules are present in this system. Because of this,
> the
> > > domain decomposition algorithm cannot easily determine the minimum cell
> > > size that it requires for treating bonded interactions. Instead, domain
> > > decomposition will assume that half the non-bonded cut-off will be a
> > > suitable lower bound.
> > >
> > > Minimum cell size due to bon

Re: [gmx-users] Helix Twist

2014-07-05 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

Manual section 7.4 and 8 are good places to start with such questions.

Mark


On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Natalia Alveal F. 
wrote:

> Dear Gromacs users,
>
> I work with GROMACS 4.5.4, and only want to known which tools or commands
> are the best for calculate helix twist (to only one helix).
>
> Best regards!
>
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