Re: [gmx-users] Error while running InflateGRO File

2014-08-05 Thread neha bharti
Hello All

I am trying to perform MD for protein ligand protein complex in popc lipid
with charmm36 force field and also follow Justin A. Lemkul tutorial.

I generated small molecule topology file from SwissParam which provides
.pdb file for ligand molecule.
I don't have .gro file for small molecule thats why I have created all the
file in .pdb file format.

when I run:

 perl inflategro.pl system.pdb 4 POPC 0 system_inflated.gro 5 area.dat

it gives error :

Use of uninitialized value $box_x in multiplication (*) at inflategro.pl
line 339.
Use of uninitialized value $box_y in multiplication (*) at inflategro.pl
line 340.
Scaling lipids
There are 0 lipids...


How to work with .pdb file to run inflategro.pl command??

can anyone please help me out how to solve this error.

Thanks in advance
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Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx cannot generate the right residue and atom numbers

2014-08-05 Thread João Martins
Is there a specific reason why you're not adding the water using genbox and
genion? If that's not the case you can simply delete the waters from the
pdb and only convert the rest of the system. Then you can solvate, set your
box boundaries and add ions.

Best,
João



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On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 6:09 AM, WH signoreguid...@163.com wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users,

 I want to use Gromacs to process a system with more than 8 water
 moelcules. However, when use pdb2gmx to deal the the pdb file, the out put
 .gro file has the form like this:
  3409HOHHW234995  -5.617  -6.883  -8.771
  3409HOH OW34996  -6.108  -6.959  -7.760
  3409HOHHW134997  -6.107  -6.973  -7.855
  3409HOHHW234998  -6.199  -6.971  -7.735
  3409HOH OW34999  -4.964  -8.455  -9.110
  3409HOHHW135000  -5.054  -8.441  -9.081
  3409HOHHW235001  -4.939  -8.372  -9.150
  3409HOH OW35002  -6.157  -7.576  -8.913
  3409HOHHW135003  -6.187  -7.499  -8.962

 Only 4 digits will be used for the residue number and 5 for the atom
 number. Thus, the actual residue number and atom number cannot be written
 correctly and lead to failure for the MD simulation.
 Does anyone know how to fix this problem? I really appreciate it.
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Re: [gmx-users] Performance of beowulf cluster

2014-08-05 Thread Mirco Wahab

On 05.08.2014 07:01, Abhishek Acharya wrote:

I am planning on investing in a beowulf cluster with 6 nodes (48 cores) each 
with AMD Fx 8350 processor, 8 GB memory  connected by 1 Gigabit Ethernet 
switch. Although I plan to add more cores to this cluster later on, what is the 
max performance expected from the current specs for a 100,000 atom simulation 
box ? Also, is it better to invest in a  single 48 core server ? The cluster 
system can be set up at almost half the price of a 48 core server, but do we 
lose out on performance in the process?


6 AMD-8350 boxes, connected to *one* 1GB switch?

This system could be put to very good use if you are
able to perform 6 *independent simulations* on your
molecular system.

100,000 Atoms is a rather small system for large scale
parallelization. A 100K SPC box would have an edge length
of about 10nm?

If it's important for you to have parallel runs on single
molecular systems, you could consider a dual-socket-2011
system running  6-core i7 processors (i7/4930K or upcoming
Haswell-E 5930K) combined with quad-channel DDR3/4.
This would give you a 24x parallelization on a single
workstation.

What about modern (Nvidia) consumer graphics cards? These are
supported very well by Gromacs.

Regards

M.

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[gmx-users] Why is there a NxN VdW [F] on a separate line?

2014-08-05 Thread Theodore Si
This is extracted from a log file of a mdrun of 512 openMP threads 
without GPU acceleration. Since the first line and third line both have 
N*N Vdw [F], does the former include the latter?



As we can see, in the log file of a mdrun of 8 openMP threads without 
GPU acceleration, there is no standalone N*N Vdw [F], why the difference?



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[gmx-users] Umbrella Sampling - no PMF plateau

2014-08-05 Thread Steven Neumann
Dear Gmx Users,

I run US simulations between 2 nanotubes with attached proteins with
distance as a reaction coordinate. This is a coarse-grain simulation, both
tubes are placed across pbc so infinite in length. I have tabulated
potentials for both bonded and non-bonded interactions. I observed that
even at large distances between them in US windows when they do not
interact (even across pbc) the PMF is still increasing... no plateau is
observed...
I tried it in many systems increasing the box size but still the same
happening. The perido image is 15 nm away and the cutoff in potentials is 2
nm...

Would you please advise? May that correspond to position restraint dynamics
of tube atoms of one of them (from which I pulled the other one)? Or maybe
tabulated potentials used?

Steven
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[gmx-users] error when trying to continue a simulation

2014-08-05 Thread Sudharsan Sridharan
Hi all,

Can someone please help me with continuing a simulation.

I did a 150 ns simulation and wanted to set up a test extension by 100 ps.
I used the following commands and got some error messages

tpbconv_mpi -s md.tpr -extend 100 -o next.tpr

and

mpirun -np 32 mdrun_mpi -s next.tpr -cpi md.cpt

but I get the following error
---
Fatal error:
File appending requested, but only 1 of the 4 output files are present
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
--

So I used the following commands

tpbconv_mpi -s md.tpr -f md.trr -e md.edr -extend 100 -o next.tpr

and

mpirun -np 32 mdrun_mpi -s next.tpr -cpi md.cpt


but keep getting the same error.

Can someone please let me know what I'm doing wrong. I'd like to eventually
extend the simulation by 50 ns.

Thanks for your help.

Kind regards,
Sid.
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[gmx-users] charged uncharged ligand

2014-08-05 Thread shahab shariati
Dear gromacs users.

My system contains protein + ligand.

Total charge of my protein = 0

My ligand has -NH2 group.

I want to do 2 md simulations:

1)deprotonated state of ligand (-NH2).   =  Total charge of system= 0

2)protonated state of ligand and (-NH3+)=  Total charge of system=+1

I have no problem about the first simulation. I have a question about the
second simulation:

Should I one Cl ion to system using genion tool? I want to study effect of
the charged ligand on the protein.

Any help will highly appreciated.
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Re: [gmx-users] Performance of beowulf cluster

2014-08-05 Thread Szilárd Páll
Hi,

You need fast network to parallelize across multiple nodes. 1 Gb
ethernet won't work well and even even 10/40 Gb ethernet needs to be
of good quality; you'd likely need to buy separate adapters, the
on-board ones won't perform well. I posted some links to the list
related to this a fed days ago.

The AMD FX dekstop hardware you mention is OK, but I'm not sure that
it's gives the best performance/price. If you find (very) discounted
Sandy Bridge-E (i7 3930K) or the cheaper Haswells like i5 4670 may
actually provide better prerformance for the money. Ivy Bridge-E or
Haswell-E as Mirco suggests are the best single-socket workstation
options, but those are/will be pretty expensive.

Finally, unless you have a good reason not to, you should not just
consider GPUs, but consider what CPU/platform works best with GPUs.

Cheers,
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Szilárd


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Abhishek Acharya
abhi117acha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello gromacs users,
 I am planning on investing in a beowulf cluster with 6 nodes (48 cores) each 
 with AMD Fx 8350 processor, 8 GB memory  connected by 1 Gigabit Ethernet 
 switch. Although I plan to add more cores to this cluster later on, what is 
 the max performance expected from the current specs for a 100,000 atom 
 simulation box ? Also, is it better to invest in a  single 48 core server ? 
 The cluster system can be set up at almost half the price of a 48 core 
 server, but do we lose out on performance in the process??

 Regards,

 Abhishek Acharya
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Re: [gmx-users] Protein simulation including ligand with Fe(III)

2014-08-05 Thread Nikolaos Michelarakis
Hi Justin,

Thank you for your answer. I was going to use the parameters from an MM
paper but since you mentioned that, any idea where I can find some better
parameters? I don't want them to be perfect and I don't have time for QM,
just something so the protein won't blow up up.

Thanks,

Nicholas
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[gmx-users] treatment of electrostatics in vaccum

2014-08-05 Thread Sanku M
Hi
  I need to run MD of a charged macromolecule in gas-phase or in vaccum. I was 
wondering if I use  no periodic boundary condition ( i.e. setting pbc=no  and 
ns_type=simple), can I get away with non-ewald type electrostatics method ( 
i.e. by using a very large cut-off like 3 or 4 nm for electrostatics  ) ? In 
this case, I wanted to minimize the computing expense associated with PME 
electrostatics. 


Thanks
Sanku
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Re: [gmx-users] Why is there a NxN VdW [F] on a separate line?

2014-08-05 Thread Mark Abraham
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Theodore Si sjyz...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is extracted from a log file


There's no data. The list cannot accept attachments, so you need to
copy-paste a relevant chunk, or upload a log file to a file-sharing service.


 of a mdrun of 512 openMP threads without GPU acceleration.


mdrun will refuse to run with 512 OpenMP threads - please report your mdrun
command line rather than your mental model of it.


 Since the first line and third line both have N*N Vdw [F], does the former
 include the latter?


No, but there is no line with N*N Vdw [F]. Please be precise if you are
asking for detailed information.

As we can see, in the log file of a mdrun of 8 openMP threads without GPU
 acceleration, there is no standalone N*N Vdw [F], why the difference?


Can't tell, don't know what is different between the two runs. My guess is
that the former run is actually running on 64 MPI ranks, each of 8 OpenMP
threads, in which case you have domain decomposition per MPI rank, and in
that case there are separate calls to kernels that are aimed at computing
the interactions associated with atoms whose home is in different domains.
You should see the ratio vary as the number of ranks varies.

Mark




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Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx cannot generate the right residue and atom numbers

2014-08-05 Thread Mark Abraham
In addition to what Joao said, the fixed-width .pdb format is fundamentally
unsuited to large systems. You need to find a way to avoid using such a
.pdb file as input to pdb2gmx; either solvate later, or use a different
format for input.

Mark


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:09 PM, WH signoreguid...@163.com wrote:

 Dear Gromacs users,

 I want to use Gromacs to process a system with more than 8 water
 moelcules. However, when use pdb2gmx to deal the the pdb file, the out put
 .gro file has the form like this:
  3409HOHHW234995  -5.617  -6.883  -8.771
  3409HOH OW34996  -6.108  -6.959  -7.760
  3409HOHHW134997  -6.107  -6.973  -7.855
  3409HOHHW234998  -6.199  -6.971  -7.735
  3409HOH OW34999  -4.964  -8.455  -9.110
  3409HOHHW135000  -5.054  -8.441  -9.081
  3409HOHHW235001  -4.939  -8.372  -9.150
  3409HOH OW35002  -6.157  -7.576  -8.913
  3409HOHHW135003  -6.187  -7.499  -8.962

 Only 4 digits will be used for the residue number and 5 for the atom
 number. Thus, the actual residue number and atom number cannot be written
 correctly and lead to failure for the MD simulation.
 Does anyone know how to fix this problem? I really appreciate it.
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Re: [gmx-users] a gromacs feature to do TMD like simulation

2014-08-05 Thread mahboobe sadr

Dear Mr.Shahriyari , 

I have this problem too
let me know plz, if u solve ur problem with gromacs... 

best regards



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Re: [gmx-users] Umbrella Sampling - no PMF plateau

2014-08-05 Thread Brian Yoo
Hi Steven,

I've run into a similar issue with CG simulations using tabulated
potentials. For my system it turns out the continuous increase in PMF was
due to the system freezing for some unknown reason. Once I annealed the
system (~500 K) and messed around with the temperature coupling, the system
unfroze, and I was eventually able to obtain the correct plateau in the PMF
curve.

Have you checked some of your configurations to see whether your system
shows unphysical ordering? (I am assuming you are using an explicit
solvent.)

Hope this helps,
Brian


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear Gmx Users,

 I run US simulations between 2 nanotubes with attached proteins with
 distance as a reaction coordinate. This is a coarse-grain simulation, both
 tubes are placed across pbc so infinite in length. I have tabulated
 potentials for both bonded and non-bonded interactions. I observed that
 even at large distances between them in US windows when they do not
 interact (even across pbc) the PMF is still increasing... no plateau is
 observed...
 I tried it in many systems increasing the box size but still the same
 happening. The perido image is 15 nm away and the cutoff in potentials is 2
 nm...

 Would you please advise? May that correspond to position restraint dynamics
 of tube atoms of one of them (from which I pulled the other one)? Or maybe
 tabulated potentials used?

 Steven
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Re: [gmx-users] Error with tabulated potential and tip4p water model

2014-08-05 Thread Udaya Dahal
Thank you mark for the reply. But here i have only one polymer which i used
optimized structure polymer and used genbox to generate box of solvent
which obviously puts the water at different lattice points. It was never a
problem to simulate when I was using the LJ potential. So, my concern here
is about how the gromacs reads the table internally.

So far, in the table, what I did is; I made all f,f',h,h' columns zero and
calculated the total (sum of electrostatics+LJ/Buckingham+user defined
potential) potential and put in the column g and the negative derivative of
g in g' column thereby putting all the coefficients as 1 in the .itp file.
When I try to use that table it gives me the warning that the
derivative(-force) deviates from the potential by 164%(one example). While
reading the Manual, I found that it uses the Cubic splines Algorithm to
regenerate the table internally. I am not sure if that algorithm was not
compatible with the way i created the table(for potential) or it is
something else. Looks like I am lost somewhere in between here because EM
was never a great problem until I used the tabulated potential.


Udaya


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Generating a sane starting structure is not really in GROMACS problem
 space. You should take steps to ensure atoms are not closer to each other
 than is physically reasonable, and probably start with the coordinates of
 each molecule whole with respect to PBC. Start with a single polymer
 solvated, then perhaps use genconf to add complexity.

 Mark


 On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Udaya Dahal dahal.ud...@gmail.com wrote:

  It was immediate. But I figured out the way to solve that issue. Looks
  like  the starting initial configuration was not so good. A different
  starting structure at least gave me the energy minimization to few steps
  but I kind of really find very hard to have the energy minimized to
 smaller
  value.  The maximum force on the particular atom is around ...+03. Do I
  really have to amend each and every atom step by step(which still doesn't
  solve the problem) or there is any other specific way that we can get
  more/less energy minimized structure. Thank you for your help.
 
 
  On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Immediately, or after some EM steps?
  
   Mark
  
  
   On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Udaya Dahal dahal.ud...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
 I have tabulated potential for all the possible combinations(non
   bonded).
I am using Tip4p water model for the polymer water interaction. While
running the energy minimization i got the error like below.
   
Fatal error:
Settle block crossing node boundaries
constraint between atoms 664, 665, 666)
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
   GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
   
Any idea to slove this issue.?
   
Thank you,
Udaya.
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Re: [gmx-users] Performance of beowulf cluster

2014-08-05 Thread Abhi Acharya
Thank you Mirco and Szilard,
With regards to the GPU system, I have decided on a Xeon E5-1650 v2 system
with GEForce GTX -780 Ti GPU for equilibration and production runs with
small systems. But for large systems or REMD simulations, I am a bit
skeptical on banking on GPU systems. Any pointers as to what would be the
minimum configuration required for REMD simulations on say a 50 K atom
protein sampled for 100 different temperatures? I am open to all possible
options in this regard (obviously a little cost effectiveness does not harm
).
Also, would investing in a *good* 40 Gigabit ethernet network ensure good
performance if we later plan to more nodes to the cluster.

Regards,
Abhishek


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Szilárd Páll pall.szil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 You need fast network to parallelize across multiple nodes. 1 Gb
 ethernet won't work well and even even 10/40 Gb ethernet needs to be
 of good quality; you'd likely need to buy separate adapters, the
 on-board ones won't perform well. I posted some links to the list
 related to this a fed days ago.

 The AMD FX dekstop hardware you mention is OK, but I'm not sure that
 it's gives the best performance/price. If you find (very) discounted
 Sandy Bridge-E (i7 3930K) or the cheaper Haswells like i5 4670 may
 actually provide better prerformance for the money. Ivy Bridge-E or
 Haswell-E as Mirco suggests are the best single-socket workstation
 options, but those are/will be pretty expensive.

 Finally, unless you have a good reason not to, you should not just
 consider GPUs, but consider what CPU/platform works best with GPUs.

 Cheers,
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 abhi117acha...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello gromacs users,
  I am planning on investing in a beowulf cluster with 6 nodes (48 cores)
 each with AMD Fx 8350 processor, 8 GB memory  connected by 1 Gigabit
 Ethernet switch. Although I plan to add more cores to this cluster later
 on, what is the max performance expected from the current specs for a
 100,000 atom simulation box ? Also, is it better to invest in a  single 48
 core server ? The cluster system can be set up at almost half the price of
 a 48 core server, but do we lose out on performance in the process??
 
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Re: [gmx-users] treatment of electrostatics in vaccum

2014-08-05 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/5/14, 7:39 AM, Sanku M wrote:

Hi
   I need to run MD of a charged macromolecule in gas-phase or in vaccum. I was 
wondering if I use  no periodic boundary condition ( i.e. setting pbc=no  and 
ns_type=simple), can I get away with non-ewald type electrostatics method ( 
i.e. by using a very large cut-off like 3 or 4 nm for electrostatics  ) ? In 
this case, I wanted to minimize the computing expense associated with PME 
electrostatics.



Infinite cutoffs would be more common.

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Re: [gmx-users] Cluster size and aggregation number calculation

2014-08-05 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/5/14, 10:18 AM, Praveen Kumar wrote:

Hi,

I am new to Gromacs. Can anybody help me to tell how to calculate  cluster
size and aggregation number in a liquid?



Try g_clustsize.

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[gmx-users] Cluster size and aggregation number calculation

2014-08-05 Thread Praveen Kumar
Hi,

I am new to Gromacs. Can anybody help me to tell how to calculate  cluster
size and aggregation number in a liquid?

Thanks
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Re: [gmx-users] Error while running InflateGRO File

2014-08-05 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/4/14, 11:53 PM, neha bharti wrote:

Hello All

I am trying to perform MD for protein ligand protein complex in popc lipid
with charmm36 force field and also follow Justin A. Lemkul tutorial.

I generated small molecule topology file from SwissParam which provides
.pdb file for ligand molecule.
I don't have .gro file for small molecule thats why I have created all the
file in .pdb file format.

when I run:

  perl inflategro.pl system.pdb 4 POPC 0 system_inflated.gro 5 area.dat

it gives error :

Use of uninitialized value $box_x in multiplication (*) at inflategro.pl
line 339.
Use of uninitialized value $box_y in multiplication (*) at inflategro.pl
line 340.
Scaling lipids
There are 0 lipids...


How to work with .pdb file to run inflategro.pl command??

can anyone please help me out how to solve this error.



I answered this yesterday.

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Re: [gmx-users] Simulation of Glass Surfaces?

2014-08-05 Thread AJ Lanphere
Additionally, what is the difference between the different wall types? They
are stated as 9-3, 10-4, and 12-6, but I don't know what is meant by that.


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:20 PM, AJ Lanphere ajlanph...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, I've been looking over the sections on walls in the manual and I have
 a few questions on the specifics.
 - Do the walls have to be composed of a solid material, or can they be set
 as just a boundary? I don't want my glass drifting out of the simulation
 box and into space, but I don't want it interacting with an interface,
 either.
 - Is it possible to remove periodicity from positive Z, but not negative
 Z? As in, can I set it up so that I'm only forming an exposed surface on
 one face of my box, instead of creating effectively a sheet of glass? I'm
 concerned that, since my simulation box is only 4.5nm on a side, creating
 two surfaces that close together will result in unrealistic structure.

 Thanks,
 AJ L


 On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:35 PM, David van der Spoel sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se
  wrote:

 On 2014-07-21 18:33, AJ Lanphere wrote:

 Hello all,

 I am using GROMACS to simulate the melting and annealing of glasses.
 Currently I've been working only with simulations of the glass bulk, with
 periodic boundaries so the glass is connected on all sides. I was
 wondering
 if GROMACS can be used to simulate solid surfaces, because I have not
 seen
 any methods for doing so in the manual and a brief literature search has
 also not returned any useful references.

  We have done some stuff with glass surfaces:
 David van der Spoel, Erik J. W. Wensink and Alex C. Hoffmann: Lifting a
 glass from a wet table: a microscopic picture Langmuir 22 pp. 5666-5672
 (2006)

 you can also use analytic walls, check the manual.


  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 Regards,
 AJ Lanphere

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[gmx-users] Fwd: k.sunny wants to share a link | Gromacs

2014-08-05 Thread sunny rajapal
k.sunny says:
For phosphene (black phosphorus) which force field is useful in gromacs
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[gmx-users] New residue in FF does not bond to others.

2014-08-05 Thread Dawid das
Dear Gromacs experts,

I have found out why my force field does not work properly. I have added a
new residue according to manual I found on Gromacs website. I modified all
of the files. Now I have revealed that my new residue does not have
connection to natural aminoacids in my topology file! If you take a look at
it you will see that atoms 970 and 1009 are connected while the truth is
that atoms 970 (carbonyl C atom of Phe65) and 1008 (MN1 atom of CH6 (new)
residue) but also atoms 994 (MC3 atom of new residue) and 1009 (peptide N
atom of Ser69) should be bonded. I have specified bonded parameters between
those atom types in ffbonded.itp file but not in aminoacids.rtp.
In other words my topology file does not recognize the connection between
new residue and natural aminoacids residues. It seems like I do not specify
something correctly in force field but I cannot find my mistake. Shall I
specify this connection in specbond.dat file?

Best wishes,

Dawid Grabarek

PS Here you will find all relevant files (I guess and I hope so :) ) but if
you need sth more, please give me a shout:
http://www.speedyshare.com/Dk2tu/charmm27-files.tar.bz2
http://www.speedyshare.com/vtePQ/mCherry7.tar.bz2
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Re: [gmx-users] Simulation of Glass Surfaces?

2014-08-05 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/5/14, 11:20 AM, AJ Lanphere wrote:

So, I've been looking over the sections on walls in the manual and I have a
few questions on the specifics.
- Do the walls have to be composed of a solid material, or can they be set
as just a boundary? I don't want my glass drifting out of the simulation
box and into space, but I don't want it interacting with an interface,
either.


Probably a flat-bottom potential (reflective boundary) is more along the lines 
of what you want.



- Is it possible to remove periodicity from positive Z, but not negative Z?
As in, can I set it up so that I'm only forming an exposed surface on one
face of my box, instead of creating effectively a sheet of glass? I'm
concerned that, since my simulation box is only 4.5nm on a side, creating
two surfaces that close together will result in unrealistic structure.



AFAIK, no, you can't manipulate periodicity in this way.

-Justin

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[gmx-users] GBSA + infinite cutoff + GPU in GMX5?

2014-08-05 Thread Sandeep Somani
Hi

Based on the documentation (
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Cut-off_schemes), it seems that, with
GMX 5, GBSA implicit solvent simulations with infinite cutoff (rcoulomb =
0, rvdw = 0, pbc = no) cannot be done on GPUs. Is that right?

For CPU simulations I am quite happy with 4.6.5!

Best
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[gmx-users] Normalization In RDF, GROMACS

2014-08-05 Thread Haiyang Zhao
Hello Dear User,

I am confused about the normalization in the g_rdf command. It should be
noted that I understand the meaning of RDF but am not sure about the
definition of RDF in GROMACS in detail.

When I calculate the rdf of Hydrogen (HW) of water molecules around one
Oxygen (OW) of one water molecule, I do not want the normalized option, and
thus I use the -nonorm in g_rdf, which indicate that no Normalization is
conducted for volume and density.

I checked the results, namely the HW number distribution at different
radical distances (R), the minimum value is 500, which is quite
impossible.  What the meaning of these value? Are these value means the HW
numbers at different radical distance ? Additionally, all HW numbers are
integral times of 500.


In order to confirm this result, I normalize the data myself: dividing
these values by the volume of the shell layer (4*pi*R^2*dl) and the average
water density (33.4 N/nm^3). However, these calculated results is several
order higher than the normalized results by Gromacs with default -norm
option.

Thanks in advance.


Haiyang
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[gmx-users] Restrain the COM of a group of atoms

2014-08-05 Thread zifeng li
Hi All,

I'm calculating the PMF of pulling a surfactant molecule from a polymer
slab in aqueous phase. Therefore, my pull group is the surfactant and the
reference group is the slab. To prevent the reference group (slab) from
being dragged by the pull group (surfactant), I would like to restrain the
COM of my reference group.

I did this by removing the COM motion of my reference group using
comm_grps mdp options.
In addition, I also removed the COM motion of other atoms, including waters
and ions in the system so that there are no external forces applying to the
system.
Therefore, I have two comm_grps: slab  Waters and ion.

As you may notice, my comm_grps does not include the pull group
(surfactant), which triggers a warning by grompp, saying  Some atoms are
not part of any center of mass motion removal group.
  This may lead to artifacts.
I could have included the surfactant in the group of waters and ions but
the fact that this surfactant is moving by an umbrella potential refrains
me from doing so.

My question is:
1. Does this seem to be a reasonable choice to restrain the COM of a
reference group?
2. I have two groups in the removal of COM motion. Does this suggest I
should also use the same two groups for temperature coupling?
3. For a MD step using a leapfrog algorithm, when does the COM removal
happen? Does it occur after applying corrections due to constraints and
before re-scaling the coordinates and box due to pressure coupling?

Thanks!
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Re: [gmx-users] New residue in FF does not bond to others.

2014-08-05 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/5/14, 11:59 AM, Dawid das wrote:

Dear Gromacs experts,

I have found out why my force field does not work properly. I have added a
new residue according to manual I found on Gromacs website. I modified all
of the files. Now I have revealed that my new residue does not have
connection to natural aminoacids in my topology file! If you take a look at
it you will see that atoms 970 and 1009 are connected while the truth is
that atoms 970 (carbonyl C atom of Phe65) and 1008 (MN1 atom of CH6 (new)
residue) but also atoms 994 (MC3 atom of new residue) and 1009 (peptide N
atom of Ser69) should be bonded. I have specified bonded parameters between
those atom types in ffbonded.itp file but not in aminoacids.rtp.
In other words my topology file does not recognize the connection between
new residue and natural aminoacids residues. It seems like I do not specify
something correctly in force field but I cannot find my mistake. Shall I
specify this connection in specbond.dat file?



You don't need specbond.dat.  If CH6 is connected within the peptide backbone, 
you need to specify bonds in the .rtp file to the previous and next residues 
with -/+ and appropriate atom names.


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Re: [gmx-users] New residue in FF does not bond to others.

2014-08-05 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/5/14, 11:59 AM, Dawid das wrote:

Dear Gromacs experts,

I have found out why my force field does not work properly. I have added a
new residue according to manual I found on Gromacs website. I modified all
of the files. Now I have revealed that my new residue does not have
connection to natural aminoacids in my topology file! If you take a look at
it you will see that atoms 970 and 1009 are connected while the truth is
that atoms 970 (carbonyl C atom of Phe65) and 1008 (MN1 atom of CH6 (new)
residue) but also atoms 994 (MC3 atom of new residue) and 1009 (peptide N
atom of Ser69) should be bonded. I have specified bonded parameters between
those atom types in ffbonded.itp file but not in aminoacids.rtp.
In other words my topology file does not recognize the connection between
new residue and natural aminoacids residues. It seems like I do not specify
something correctly in force field but I cannot find my mistake. Shall I
specify this connection in specbond.dat file?



You do not need specbond.dat.  If the CH6 residue is an integral part of the 
protein backbone, you need to specify the inter-residue bonds using the +/- 
mechanism with appropriate atom names.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Umbrella Sampling - no PMF plateau

2014-08-05 Thread Steven Neumann
Hi Brian,

Thanks for this. I checked many windows and I have not observed any
unphysical behaviour. I do not have any solvent, its a water-free force
field we have developed for the specific system. I do have freely moving
LJ beads though. I am thinking i may be the positions restraints dynamics
faultbut still not clue.

Steven


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Brian Yoo brian.s.yoo...@nd.edu wrote:

 Hi Steven,

 I've run into a similar issue with CG simulations using tabulated
 potentials. For my system it turns out the continuous increase in PMF was
 due to the system freezing for some unknown reason. Once I annealed the
 system (~500 K) and messed around with the temperature coupling, the system
 unfroze, and I was eventually able to obtain the correct plateau in the PMF
 curve.

 Have you checked some of your configurations to see whether your system
 shows unphysical ordering? (I am assuming you are using an explicit
 solvent.)

 Hope this helps,
 Brian


 On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Steven Neumann s.neuman...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Dear Gmx Users,
 
  I run US simulations between 2 nanotubes with attached proteins with
  distance as a reaction coordinate. This is a coarse-grain simulation,
 both
  tubes are placed across pbc so infinite in length. I have tabulated
  potentials for both bonded and non-bonded interactions. I observed that
  even at large distances between them in US windows when they do not
  interact (even across pbc) the PMF is still increasing... no plateau is
  observed...
  I tried it in many systems increasing the box size but still the same
  happening. The perido image is 15 nm away and the cutoff in potentials
 is 2
  nm...
 
  Would you please advise? May that correspond to position restraint
 dynamics
  of tube atoms of one of them (from which I pulled the other one)? Or
 maybe
  tabulated potentials used?
 
  Steven
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Re: [gmx-users] Why is there a NxN VdW [F] on a separate line?

2014-08-05 Thread Theodore Si
Please compare the file 8.log 
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=990FCE59E48164A4%212481authkey=%21AI9ThbRY_7ZgAg8ithint=file%2clog 
and 512.log 
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=990FCE59E48164A4%212482authkey=%21APLkizOBzXtPHxsithint=file%2clog.Their 
M E G A - F L O P S   A C C O U N T I N  part are different as 8.log has 
no standalone NxN VdW [F] and NxN VdW [VF]. 512.log has the following 
lines.


NxN VdW [F] 17.077648 563.562 0.0
NxN VdW [VF]0.002592 0.111 0.0

Why the difference?

And the both have

 NxN Ewald Elec. + VdW [F]
 NxN Ewald Elec. + VdW [VF]

Does  NxN Ewald Elec. + VdW [F] mean  NxN Ewald Elec.  and NxN VdW [F]? 
If it is the case, why 512.log has both  NxN Ewald Elec. + VdW [F] and 
NxN VdW [F]?


On 8/5/2014 10:11 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:

On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Theodore Si sjyz...@gmail.com wrote:


This is extracted from a log file


There's no data. The list cannot accept attachments, so you need to
copy-paste a relevant chunk, or upload a log file to a file-sharing service.



of a mdrun of 512 openMP threads without GPU acceleration.


mdrun will refuse to run with 512 OpenMP threads - please report your mdrun
command line rather than your mental model of it.



Since the first line and third line both have N*N Vdw [F], does the former
include the latter?


No, but there is no line with N*N Vdw [F]. Please be precise if you are
asking for detailed information.

As we can see, in the log file of a mdrun of 8 openMP threads without GPU

acceleration, there is no standalone N*N Vdw [F], why the difference?


Can't tell, don't know what is different between the two runs. My guess is
that the former run is actually running on 64 MPI ranks, each of 8 OpenMP
threads, in which case you have domain decomposition per MPI rank, and in
that case there are separate calls to kernels that are aimed at computing
the interactions associated with atoms whose home is in different domains.
You should see the ratio vary as the number of ranks varies.

Mark




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[gmx-users] Velocity Distribution Calculation

2014-08-05 Thread 朱文鹏
Dear all,

I am a new user of GROMACS. Now I am using it on water permeability through
a nano-channel. The pressure difference is applied by adding acceleration
to water molecules in a periodic simulation box. To get the flow rate of
water, I need to the number of water molecules through the channel or
spatial velocity distribution in different regions.

I used to do similar simulations by LAMMPS. LAMMPS provides the function of
count (region, group) or the command of fix ave/spatial for counting
atom number or velocity distribution. I am wondering how I can do it in
GROMACS. Does it have the same commands? I went over the manual and saw
commands of g_traj and g_spatial. Are they what I am looking for?

Thank you very much for your attention.

Best,
Jason
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Re: [gmx-users] GBSA + infinite cutoff + GPU in GMX5?

2014-08-05 Thread Sandeep Somani
Oh ok. Good thing I checked.

Thanks!
Sandeep
 On Aug 5, 2014 9:40 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 On 8/5/14, 1:10 PM, Sandeep Somani wrote:

 Hi

 Based on the documentation (
 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Cut-off_schemes), it seems that,
 with
 GMX 5, GBSA implicit solvent simulations with infinite cutoff (rcoulomb =
 0, rvdw = 0, pbc = no) cannot be done on GPUs. Is that right?


 Don't run an implicit simulation on GPU in 5.0; it is not expected to work
 at all and should be disabled entirely back in version 4.6.  See
 http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/1570.

 -Justin

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